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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | That was the word. |
Where'd you get that from? I know they had him high, but didn't know about that. Do you know what their order was? |
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| akk7 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | That was the word. |
Where'd you get that from? I know they had him high, but didn't know about that. Do you know what their order was? |
Well, it's from VLF's "I have a source (or not) but you don't (including media reports)." 
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| akk7 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | That was the word. |
Where'd you get that from? I know they had him high, but didn't know about that. Do you know what their order was? |
I wonder if that was the "word" after or before the draft took place. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | akk7 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | That was the word. |
Where'd you get that from? I know they had him high, but didn't know about that. Do you know what their order was? |
I wonder if that was the "word" after or before the draft took place. |
Pincus (where has he been on here anyway) recently stated the Lakers got the same guy they would have picked at 4 at 7. I assumed that meant Randle was fourth on their board, but the tweet wasn't clear. He was responding to people complaining about the Lakers not tanking "properly" the past two seasons. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Chronicle wrote: | | Mitch must have been reading my top 5 then because I was the only one on this board with him above wiggins lol |
My top 2 were Embiid and Randle
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Are people still down on Wiggins? I think that he's not the alpha take-over scorer some thought he'd be, but his defense, athleticism, and ability to improve offensively is still great. To me if we re-do the draft and I'm the Lakers with the 1st pick I'd take Wiggins #1.
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| KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | If the Lakers have the #3 or #4 overall pick I would target Myles Turner out of Texas. He would be my PF of the future.
I know we have Randle but I would offer him to the Celtics for their lotto pick which should be around 8-12, if they don't budge I would throw in our Houston pick. At that range I would pick Willie Cauley Stein.
In FA, I'd target Omer Asik since Marc Gasol is a long shot. |
right now Randle is much much better then M Turner. why not get 1 of okafor, towns, russell if u have the 3rd pick? |
Only like Okafor of the 3. Still iffy on Towns. Not a fan of Russell. |
 thats joke of the day.
u might as well let us know ur draft board |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Are people still down on Wiggins? I think that he's not the alpha take-over scorer some thought he'd be, but his defense, athleticism, and ability to improve offensively is still great. To me if we re-do the draft and I'm the Lakers with the 1st pick I'd take Wiggins #1. |
just a rookie. will take 3 yrs to judge him properly |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Are people still down on Wiggins? I think that he's not the alpha take-over scorer some thought he'd be, but his defense, athleticism, and ability to improve offensively is still great. To me if we re-do the draft and I'm the Lakers with the 1st pick I'd take Wiggins #1. |
just a rookie. will take 3 yrs to judge him properly |
He's the kind of guy a superstar like Durant would like IMO. A guy who won't feel like he needs to be the Man, but will lock down folks, score 20 ppg, etc.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | That was the word. |
where did u get that from? or u and Mitch just changed soul's for that to happen? |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | I specifically watched Love on defense in the 4th quarter of that game yesterday, and he is just too slow to be even a decent defender. We would have to plan around that if we obtained him. |
I almost have to say, you have to draft WCS and think about trading Randle if you sign Love. |
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| Tony Anapolis wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I specifically watched Love on defense in the 4th quarter of that game yesterday, and he is just too slow to be even a decent defender. We would have to plan around that if we obtained him. |
I almost have to say, you have to draft WCS and think about trading Randle if you sign Love. |
or you have a killer 6th man in Randle, and let him ease into developing on a rookie deal. If he proves better than Love, you have two moveable contracts/assets in either Love or Randle.
I was thinking Love would be a good option, but having seen him on Clev, not sure about him anymore. Seems better to plug in one of the many other holes on the roster.
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | If the Lakers have the #3 or #4 overall pick I would target Myles Turner out of Texas. He would be my PF of the future.
I know we have Randle but I would offer him to the Celtics for their lotto pick which should be around 8-12, if they don't budge I would throw in our Houston pick. At that range I would pick Willie Cauley Stein.
In FA, I'd target Omer Asik since Marc Gasol is a long shot. |
right now Randle is much much better then M Turner. why not get 1 of okafor, towns, russell if u have the 3rd pick? |
Only like Okafor of the 3. Still iffy on Towns. Not a fan of Russell. |
thats joke of the day.
u might as well let us know ur draft board |
I'm not even a huge Towns fan, but I would take him over Okafor, even at 1. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Are people still down on Wiggins? I think that he's not the alpha take-over scorer some thought he'd be, but his defense, athleticism, and ability to improve offensively is still great. To me if we re-do the draft and I'm the Lakers with the 1st pick I'd take Wiggins #1. |
the kid probably has the best footwork among young players, not only rookies... |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| anyone who's "down" on wiggins is out of their freakin minds. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| davidse wrote: | | anyone who's "down" on wiggins is out of their freakin minds. |
Yup.
And Embiid and Randle or Parker may turn out to be great players too, but this shouldn't discount Wiggins either.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| akk7 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | That was the word. |
Where'd you get that from? I know they had him high, but didn't know about that. Do you know what their order was? |
From a friend. So consider it second hand at best, third hand at worst. I heard it was Randle and then Payton.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| There is not a player in this draft with all the tools Wiggins has imo. |
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Doubting Wiggins isn't something one should do. He is extremely talented and can be a top notch #2 in a couple of years. He will have a long career. The reason I preferred Randle to him was because of their mentality. In the tourney Randle put his team on his back, especially after they had lost WCS, and carried them to the title game. I didn't see that from Wiggins, except for maybe one game. That is why Kobe is Kobe and TMac isn't Kobe. That is also why I have become a fan of Justise Winslow, he has that attitude.
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| davidse wrote: | | anyone who's "down" on wiggins is out of their freakin minds. |
I think this comes from assuming even potential "star players" provide huge impacts in their first season. Yeah they "can" make their teams better, but it usually takes at the very least 3-5 years. There is only one Lebron James out there.
This is my problem building mainly through the draft like a small market venue where no one really wants to play. Drafting a big scares me tremendously, it hardly ever works out, and takes longer to be competitive. That player has to be so good they attract veteran championship caliber type players.
A player like Wiggins will come along much faster than an Okafor imo. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doubting Wiggins isn't something one should do. He is extremely talented and can be a top notch #2 in a couple of years. He will have a long career. The reason I preferred Randle to him was because of their mentality. In the tourney Randle put his team on his back, especially after they had lost WCS, and carried them to the title game. I didn't see that from Wiggins, except for maybe one game. That is why Kobe is Kobe and TMac isn't Kobe. That is also why I have become a fan of Justise Winslow, he has that attitude. |
now i know "The Word" came from |
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| Oddly, not having the alpha dog/"killer instinct" mentality is actually why I like Wiggins so much. He's the kind of guy who can play at a high level in any system. Also, he seems like a really good kid. |
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Pincus (where has he been on here anyway) recently stated the Lakers got the same guy they would have picked at 4 at 7. I assumed that meant Randle was fourth on their board, but the tweet wasn't clear. He was responding to people complaining about the Lakers not tanking "properly" the past two seasons. |
If it meant they knew Randle would last to seventh, then other teams have been too transparent about their future selections. Who knew Orlando would flub and take Gordon that high. Who knew Boston would pick up Banks with Rondo and Avery there? Randle would have been the optimum pick for boston with journeyman Bass as their PF. But totally agree, although I prefered Exum (Kobe factor/upside) it would easily pick Randle (work ethic/known talent commodity) at 4. Him being at 7 was a gift. |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doubting Wiggins isn't something one should do. He is extremely talented and can be a top notch #2 in a couple of years. He will have a long career. The reason I preferred Randle to him was because of their mentality. In the tourney Randle put his team on his back, especially after they had lost WCS, and carried them to the title game. I didn't see that from Wiggins, except for maybe one game. That is why Kobe is Kobe and TMac isn't Kobe. That is also why I have become a fan of Justise Winslow, he has that attitude. |
now i know "The Word" came from |
Actually, a couple sources, including Emplay had LA with Randle much higher than 7. Not sure anyone had him at number 1 though.
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| 24 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Doubting Wiggins isn't something one should do. He is extremely talented and can be a top notch #2 in a couple of years. He will have a long career. The reason I preferred Randle to him was because of their mentality. In the tourney Randle put his team on his back, especially after they had lost WCS, and carried them to the title game. I didn't see that from Wiggins, except for maybe one game. That is why Kobe is Kobe and TMac isn't Kobe. That is also why I have become a fan of Justise Winslow, he has that attitude. |
now i know "The Word" came from |
Actually, a couple sources, including Emplay had LA with Randle much higher than 7. Not sure anyone had him at number 1 though. |
higher meaning 4 i agree or even 3rd but not over wiggings/embiid and even Parker to an extent |
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