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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:03 am    Post subject:

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I could've sworn JC recorded a 38.5" max vert at the combine, only an inch less than Aaron Gordon. He's a pretty damn good athlete.

epak wrote:
Any way to mix JC with Nwaba into one player?


Just have to find the dragon balls


Russell has a 39" vert. So it really depends on how it's used.


where did you source that information?
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Trade Clarkson please. There are still teams out there that actually think he's a good player.

Seriously, do you know one?


didn't you hear Magic say besides Lou, he got more calls about JC than anyone at the trade deadline? Of course you did, but visiting the thread every couple weeks and pretending your reality is not false is much more fun.


Yeah, I did. It's BS. Trying to boost his value or confidence.

It was about the time they moved him into the starting lineup too, right?

But back to the question, which was in earnest, has there been one report, tweet or radio rumor of another team interested in him?


by that silly logic, you could say teams are not interested in about 99% of NBA players
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:10 am    Post subject:

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I could've sworn JC recorded a 38.5" max vert at the combine, only an inch less than Aaron Gordon. He's a pretty damn good athlete.


it was only 1/2 inch less than Gordon (39")

http://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-strength-agility/#!?SeasonYear=2014-15&sort=MAX_VERTICAL_LEAP&dir=1
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adkindo wrote:
MJST wrote:
manlisten wrote:
I could've sworn JC recorded a 38.5" max vert at the combine, only an inch less than Aaron Gordon. He's a pretty damn good athlete.

epak wrote:
Any way to mix JC with Nwaba into one player?


Just have to find the dragon balls


Russell has a 39" vert. So it really depends on how it's used.


where did you source that information?


He did it for us

Chad Ford‏Verified account @chadfordinsider 1 Jun 2015
Just watch D'Angelo's Russell's vertical jump test. 30.5" standing vert. 39" max vert. Much better than expected.

Jason Patt‏Verified account @Bulls_Jay 2 Jun 2015
Wait...D'Angelo Russell had a 39 inch vert yesterday?!


And then did it for SportsScience






Julius Randle also had a good vert with us at 38"

https://www.instagram.com/p/pWrGQ_rO18/



But yeah, Russell is more athletic than he gets credit for, seems to use it in other ways, but if he improves his explosiveness on the takeoff he could do stuff like this more often as his body matures


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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:55 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
adkindo wrote:
MJST wrote:
manlisten wrote:
I could've sworn JC recorded a 38.5" max vert at the combine, only an inch less than Aaron Gordon. He's a pretty damn good athlete.

epak wrote:
Any way to mix JC with Nwaba into one player?


Just have to find the dragon balls


Russell has a 39" vert. So it really depends on how it's used.


where did you source that information?


He did it for us

Chad Ford‏Verified account @chadfordinsider 1 Jun 2015
Just watch D'Angelo's Russell's vertical jump test. 30.5" standing vert. 39" max vert. Much better than expected.

Jason Patt‏Verified account @Bulls_Jay 2 Jun 2015
Wait...D'Angelo Russell had a 39 inch vert yesterday?!


And then did it for SportsScience






Julius Randle also had a good vert with us at 38"

https://www.instagram.com/p/pWrGQ_rO18/



But yeah, Russell is more athletic than he gets credit for, seems to use it in other ways, but if he improves his explosiveness on the takeoff he could do stuff like this more often as his body matures



I would only consider same environment testing, and Russell refused to test at the combine, which is where JC's measurement is from....I would lay any amount of money that JC has a higher vertical than Russell.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:59 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
adkindo wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
methdxman wrote:
Trade Clarkson please. There are still teams out there that actually think he's a good player.

Seriously, do you know one?


didn't you hear Magic say besides Lou, he got more calls about JC than anyone at the trade deadline? Of course you did, but visiting the thread every couple weeks and pretending your reality is not false is much more fun.


Yeah, I did. It's BS. Trying to boost his value or confidence.

It was about the time they moved him into the starting lineup too, right?

But back to the question, which was in earnest, has there been one report, tweet or radio rumor of another team interested in him?


by that silly logic, you could say teams are not interested in about 99% of NBA players

You make no sense. There all kinds of rumors floating around by reputable sources throughout the season. But Magic makes one comment and suddenly he's a hot commodity...
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:09 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
adkindo wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
adkindo wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
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Trade Clarkson please. There are still teams out there that actually think he's a good player.

Seriously, do you know one?


didn't you hear Magic say besides Lou, he got more calls about JC than anyone at the trade deadline? Of course you did, but visiting the thread every couple weeks and pretending your reality is not false is much more fun.


Yeah, I did. It's BS. Trying to boost his value or confidence.

It was about the time they moved him into the starting lineup too, right?

But back to the question, which was in earnest, has there been one report, tweet or radio rumor of another team interested in him?


by that silly logic, you could say teams are not interested in about 99% of NBA players

You make no sense. There all kinds of rumors floating around by reputable sources throughout the season. But Magic makes one comment and suddenly he's a hot commodity...


I make no sense....your asking for someone to point to a team interested in JC, insinuating since there is no major rumor, nobody must be interested in him.

The bigger issue is you constantly have nothing but negative comments about JC, but you still visit his thread. Why? Its not enough to force everyone to put up with it in the game threads, but you actually come to the guys thread with only negative comments. It reminds me of how I acted when I was like 6 years old.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
adkindo wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
adkindo wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
methdxman wrote:
Trade Clarkson please. There are still teams out there that actually think he's a good player.

Seriously, do you know one?


didn't you hear Magic say besides Lou, he got more calls about JC than anyone at the trade deadline? Of course you did, but visiting the thread every couple weeks and pretending your reality is not false is much more fun.


Yeah, I did. It's BS. Trying to boost his value or confidence.

It was about the time they moved him into the starting lineup too, right?

But back to the question, which was in earnest, has there been one report, tweet or radio rumor of another team interested in him?


by that silly logic, you could say teams are not interested in about 99% of NBA players

You make no sense. There all kinds of rumors floating around by reputable sources throughout the season. But Magic makes one comment and suddenly he's a hot commodity...


I make no sense....your asking for someone to point to a team interested in JC, insinuating since there is no major rumor, nobody must be interested in him.

The bigger issue is you constantly have nothing but negative comments about JC, but you still visit his thread. Why? Its not enough to force everyone to put up with it in the game threads, but you actually come to the guys thread with only negative comments. It reminds me of how I acted when I was like 6 years old.


I almost never come into this thread, and really had no idea you were his personal booster. I asked one question for a specific team that was reported to be interested in him (stuff does actually get leaked during a trade deadline) and you launched into a tantrum because you're stumped. Get over it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 4:39 pm    Post subject:

There were rumors at the deadline that the Bulls had interest in trading for JC.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject:

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There were rumors at the deadline that the Bulls had interest in trading for JC.


You're right, with Julius for Jimmy Butler. It was from that guy who had dementia, but nevertheless I'll take it as, well, something.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 4:56 pm    Post subject:

I am not sure what you are trying to prove, but if it is that no other teams would want JC then that is incorrect.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson struggles big time with simple basketball IQ stuff.

And of course he has tunnel vision.

That said, he is very athletic and has proven he can score the ball at the NBA level. It is just he does nothing else.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject:

If we're combining players then I'm combining:

Clarkson and DLO as our starting PG.

Brandon with Nick Young's shot.

Julius Randle with Larry Nance (and hopefully their combined jumpshot becomes better).

Mozgov/Deng so we only have 1 bad contract.

Zubac is getting Robinson's athletic ability.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject:

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adkindo wrote:
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Trade Clarkson please. There are still teams out there that actually think he's a good player.


yeah, there are 30 of them


Yeah, teams are just lining up to pay $12.5 million to a combo guard who doesn't spread the floor, doesn't make teammates better and doesn't play a lick of defense.


Right, because that sums up JC perfectly...




Which part did you disagree with?

He is the epitome of a good stats, bad team player.

You can marvel at his 14.7 PPG if you want - and his production's been great for a 46th pick - but then you look a little closer and realise that when he's on the court he makes the game harder for his teammates on both ends.

Players like him come and go and are inevitably moved on for other uninspiring pieces.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:14 pm    Post subject:

Yes, because players typically plateau 2-3 years prior to hitting their prime. Some here kill me, they want young players but lack the patience to allow them to develop.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject:

Birmingham wrote:
2019 wrote:
Birmingham wrote:
adkindo wrote:
methdxman wrote:
Trade Clarkson please. There are still teams out there that actually think he's a good player.


yeah, there are 30 of them


Yeah, teams are just lining up to pay $12.5 million to a combo guard who doesn't spread the floor, doesn't make teammates better and doesn't play a lick of defense.


Right, because that sums up JC perfectly...




Which part did you disagree with?

He is the epitome of a good stats, bad team player.

You can marvel at his 14.7 PPG if you want - and his production's been great for a 46th pick - but then you look a little closer and realise that when he's on the court he makes the game harder for his teammates on both ends.

Players like him come and go and are inevitably moved on for other uninspiring pieces.


Some people also buy that he's a playa for leaving the club with four women, but he's still ultimately payin for em like any other 2nd rounder and they're the ladies who couldn't nab Gelo, the 2nd pick.
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject:

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Yes, because players typically plateau 2-3 years prior to hitting their prime. Some here kill me, they want young players but lack the patience to allow them to develop.


That must be why his RPM, BPM and Vorp have decreased every season... development.
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Yes, because players typically plateau 2-3 years prior to hitting their prime. Some here kill me, they want young players but lack the patience to allow them to develop.


That must be why his RPM, BPM and Vorp have decreased every season... development.


So what you're saying is... you don't like JC the player.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:10 am    Post subject:

I know jc has flaws. And maybe his pricetag seems to high. But hes the only guard that can consistently get in the paint. If he goes, i think our offense could struggle. We would also have a void in the second unit. Hes still young, but i do believe he can be a good role player. Not everyone can be an all star. Alot of people seem to be down on him, but if he improves defensively, he would be worth every penny imo.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:49 am    Post subject:

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I know jc has flaws. And maybe his pricetag seems to high. But hes the only guard that can consistently get in the paint. If he goes, i think our offense could struggle. We would also have a void in the second unit. Hes still young, but i do believe he can be a good role player. Not everyone can be an all star. Alot of people seem to be down on him, but if he improves defensively, he would be worth every penny imo.


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 3:33 pm    Post subject:

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Yes, because players typically plateau 2-3 years prior to hitting their prime. Some here kill me, they want young players but lack the patience to allow them to develop.


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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:19 pm    Post subject:

I actually think Clarkson fits very well with Ball in transition. We need some players who can run the floor like jackrabbits to tap into Lonzo's outlet passing ability.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject:

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I actually think Clarkson fits very well with Ball in transition. We need some players who can run the floor like jackrabbits to tap into Lonzo's outlet passing ability.


Me too.

I believe they may be a great fit.

Both players can run the floor and finish in transition. While neither Dlo or Ball can attack the basket, JC can take care of this portion of the game.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:05 pm    Post subject:

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I actually think Clarkson fits very well with Ball in transition. We need some players who can run the floor like jackrabbits to tap into Lonzo's outlet passing ability.


He's a gazelle. Lonzo can see him before he realize it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 11:09 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson as backup 2 now hopefully or backup 1.
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