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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:31 pm    Post subject:

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I guess minutes are fun.

When JC plays less than 20 mins:
13 games. Lakers are 7-6.


Winner winner chicken dinner.


Are you being snarky or passive aggressive right now?


Aren't they basically the same thing?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:33 pm    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
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epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
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in games this season that Clarkson has played 30 minutes or more.....

22 PPG / 5 RPG / 7 APG 48% FG & 39% 3FG


7 games.
2-5 in those 7 games for our info.


pretty close to our season win%....did you have a point?


Did you?


I did....when JC has played for more than 30 minutes this season...he has put up excellent stats....pretty sure my point was obvious.


Or he’s getting more minutes when he’s putting up excellent stats. He had a great game tonight, but he’s been very inconsistent since a very nice start to the season. We need to see more, hopefully beginning this Sunday since we’re going to need another performance like this.


I disagree with most....I think he is at his best when he is the backup PG...or like tonight where he was often the SG, but initiated the offense while Ennis or Caruso played off ball....not because he is great at initiating the offense, but it forces him to at least be mindful of distributing and not just scoring.

I think he is at his best when he is looking to attack the paint to score or pass....plus it throws a different look at the opponent who has likely got use to Ball moving the ball and playing mostly on the perimeter. IF JC stays out on the perimeter in a more traditional SG role....he is not good at passing or making great reads out there....so he is likely just going to become a jump shooter. He is not usually very impactful as a perimeter jump shooter.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:06 am    Post subject:

33-7-7
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:14 am    Post subject:

wow what a game by Clarkson... it's amazing how his game has been, despite being on the trading block, not getting consistent minutes, not being used properly.

whichever team gets Clarkson via a salary dump are lucky to have him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:18 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
in games this season that Clarkson has played 30 minutes or more.....

22 PPG / 5 RPG / 7 APG 48% FG & 39% 3FG


amazing!

it's tough to play when you don't get consistent minutes... players don't necessarily need 30+ minutes, but just consistent minutes...

Phil Jackson used to be clock work with his substitution, and it worked pretty well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:19 am    Post subject:

No need to move JC until the offseason, at worst we have to attach two seconds with him; but if he has more nights like this he would be worth a first round pick
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:22 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
If you'd like we can always use the biggest enemy to some in LG,

The dreaded.... PER36

Jordan Clarkson PER36

21.5 PPG
4.4 REB
4.8 AST
1.1 STL
44% Field Goal
33% from Three

Putting that side by side with Clarkson's stats when he's played 30 Mins or more

Jordan Clarkson (on 30MPG or More this season)
22 PPG
5.0 REB
7 AST
48% Field Goal
39% from Three

Go figure ...that they pretty much line up.


Anyway back to the regularly scheduled program


wow... I guess the PER guys only use this stat when it suits their agenda... LOL
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:30 am    Post subject:

NBA SKITS‏ @NBA_Skits
Jordan Clarkson is the 2nd player in NBA history with at least 30 points, 7 rebounds and 7 assists while shooting 70% from the field off the bench. 💪🔥🏀
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:52 am    Post subject:

Clarkson was great tonight. Looked for a bit like the game was going to slip away from then in the fourth and he held the Pacers at bay.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:53 am    Post subject:

Eh, great, great game (and props for that), but thinking he can play anywhere remotely close to this level simply if given more minutes is flawed. There have been plenty of games during his December/January downturn where he clearly didn't have his shot going and was a hot mess early on, so Luke played him less or just benched him outright later in the game. And he's been playing backup PG for much of that time (Ennis/Caruso only started playing more minutes recently because of injuries). It doesn't matter what role he's playing, he has periods where he does look to distribute and does it well, and there are others where he's pounding the ball too much and has complete tunnel vision.

This is the nature of JC as a player. He's primarily a guy who's going to get you buckets off the bench and he can do that at a decent level for the most part, but you can't expect him to consistently run the offense and set up other guys. He's streaky as hell, but for every one game where he gets this hot, he'll have two where he just as easily goes in the other direction. That's who he's been since Day 1, and thinking he's anything different at this point is just asking for disappointment.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:09 am    Post subject:

Dave20 must be so proud... Here's to you poster...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:37 am    Post subject:

Jordan is a gunner off the bench. When he is there to score he is at his best. When he has to think about what he is doing, not so good. Luke needs to stop yanking him around with minutes. He is never going to be anything more than he is. Luke is trying to turn this team into Hoosiers, and that doesn't work in the NBA. The best players should be playing big minutes. His undoing is going to be his handling of Randle & Clarkson, which in turn alienates the team.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:54 am    Post subject:

Clarkson is a good player if used properly. He can score, and in bunches.
They say his defense is suspect. This is what he needs to work on.
But don't have too many bench players who can put up 20+ points. Lou Williams comes to mind. He is a young Lou Williams.
Not a bad comparison and a great value.
But recently the Lakers have been known to pay big time for players who never play for them or limited. (Mosgov, Deng, Nash, Howard, etc) Same with tank coaches.
And when a player gets good they trade him for a first round pick.
No wonder the Lakers are way behind the Celtics, Wolves, Spurs,
GSW, Bucks, and mostly everyone.
In a position tanking and giving great pick to Boston.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:30 am    Post subject:

Jordan Clarkson's best game as Laker!
Very efficient game; 33 points on 19 shots.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:01 am    Post subject:

laker50 wrote:
Clarkson is a good player if used properly. He can score, and in bunches.
They say his defense is suspect. This is what he needs to work on.
But don't have too many bench players who can put up 20+ points. Lou Williams comes to mind. He is a young Lou Williams.
Not a bad comparison and a great value.


I was going to say something very similar. JC reminds me a lot of LouWill, in terms of having the ability to providing scoring in bunches. He doesn't always take the best shots within the offense but you have to live with it.

Having said that, I am so happy that he had a solid game to prove that with minutes he can put up numbers.

Now ship him off to Utah with Randle for Favors
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:08 am    Post subject:

Have never understood the mentality of shipping off one of our best players. The concept of rebuilding is to acquire and retain the best assets. We can acquire talent through drafting and the FA agent market. We let the big contract players’ contracts expire and use the monies to bring in FAs.

Of course, if a good trade offer, you should go for it.

Clarkson is one of our few players who can create his own shot and score. We are full players who cannot do that and need Lonzo to thrive. Clarkson is also one of the few players on our team who is clutch under pressure. Heck, he was practically the only one to make freaking free throws!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:02 pm    Post subject:

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    Tricking Jordan Clarkson into thinking it was “Single Ladies Night” at Staples Center was an ingenious bit of motivation by Luke Walton.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:05 pm    Post subject:

cthroatgtr wrote:
Jordan is a gunner off the bench. When he is there to score he is at his best. When he has to think about what he is doing, not so good. Luke needs to stop yanking him around with minutes. He is never going to be anything more than he is. Luke is trying to turn this team into Hoosiers, and that doesn't work in the NBA. The best players should be playing big minutes. His undoing is going to be his handling of Randle & Clarkson, which in turn alienates the team.


Pop and Kerr have done alright trying to “turn this team into Hoosiers”. But why try and play the right way when your inconsistent 6th man has a good game once in a while
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:06 pm    Post subject:

magicdays wrote:
Have never understood the mentality of shipping off one of our best players. The concept of rebuilding is to acquire and retain the best assets. We can acquire talent through drafting and the FA agent market. We let the big contract players’ contracts expire and use the monies to bring in FAs.

Of course, if a good trade offer, you should go for it.

Clarkson is one of our few players who can create his own shot and score. We are full players who cannot do that and need Lonzo to thrive. Clarkson is also one of the few players on our team who is clutch under pressure. Heck, he was practically the only one to make freaking free throws!!!!


Wake up. Clarkson is nowhere near one of our best guys.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:41 pm    Post subject:

^^^BGH, why do you run to the Clarkson thread every time he has a good night and try to make sure he receives no praise? You always are claiming I am anti Ball every time I do not agree with the hype spoke about him on LG....but am I in the Lonzo thread daily....weekly....or even monthly talking him down?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:20 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson is the keeper, and Randle is the one to trade. He could be the Lakers 6th man for years to come, with the skill to jump into a starting role should our PG or SG fall to injury.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:24 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
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in games this season that Clarkson has played 30 minutes or more.....

22 PPG / 5 RPG / 7 APG 48% FG & 39% 3FG


7 games.
2-5 in those 7 games for our info.


pretty close to our season win%....did you have a point?


Did you?


I did....when JC has played for more than 30 minutes this season...he has put up excellent stats....pretty sure my point was obvious.


I think it's the other way around: when he's playing well, he gets the minutes. When he's bad, he doesn't.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:34 pm    Post subject:

Eindhoven wrote:
adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
epak wrote:
adkindo wrote:
in games this season that Clarkson has played 30 minutes or more.....

22 PPG / 5 RPG / 7 APG 48% FG & 39% 3FG


7 games.
2-5 in those 7 games for our info.


pretty close to our season win%....did you have a point?


Did you?


I did....when JC has played for more than 30 minutes this season...he has put up excellent stats....pretty sure my point was obvious.


I think it's the other way around: when he's playing well, he gets the minutes. When he's bad, he doesn't.


Exactly.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject:

Jordan Clarkson got comfortable and gave the Lakers a throwback rookie season banger

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The Los Angeles Lakers finally broke their Lonzo Ball curse, winning a game without the No. 2 pick after going 0-8 previously. It wasn’t a pretty game to watch with the injury-depleted roster, but a dominant night from Jordan Clarkson paved the way to a Lakers victory.


https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2018/1/20/16913570/la-lakers-jordan-clarkson-indiana-pacers-quotes-33-points
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