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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:22 pm    Post subject:

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Games like tonight show why I donít think we will trade JC in season. He brings scoring off the bench at the guard spot. Lonzo and KCP arenít consistent enough scoring wise.

He's been so good. And while his shooting might regress a bit, he's taking much smarter shots so I don't think he's going to regress too much. But we should trade him now while his value is high. The 2 max plan requires another sacrifice.


How about sacrificing a max?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject:

I wouldn't trade JC yet. If we do get ready to be the worst team in the league and unwatchable games. FO needs to stay patient until the deadline before trying to move JC.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:26 pm    Post subject:

Finally. Luke let's him finish a fame
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:32 pm    Post subject:

Luke finally made the right decision this game. Ride the hot hand.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject:

No reason to trade him now, he is playing well and we need his scoring punch.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject:

Tyreke just will not let JC catch him....JC goes off for 25....Tyreke 27 on the same night. (leading bench scorer)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:38 pm    Post subject:

He had it going tonight.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:39 pm    Post subject:

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Games like tonight show why I donít think we will trade JC in season. He brings scoring off the bench at the guard spot. Lonzo and KCP arenít consistent enough scoring wise.

He's been so good. And while his shooting might regress a bit, he's taking much smarter shots so I don't think he's going to regress too much. But we should trade him now while his value is high. The 2 max plan requires another sacrifice.


How about sacrificing a max?

I don't set the agenda, unfortunately.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:39 pm    Post subject:

He's always had these type of games his problem is playing like this and then coming out with mediocre performance the next game.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:45 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:46 pm    Post subject:

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Tyreke just will not let JC catch him....JC goes off for 25....Tyreke 27 on the same night. (leading bench scorer)


Tyreke was a guy I wanted this summer. What did he end up settling for?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:49 pm    Post subject:

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He's always had these type of games his problem is playing like this and then coming out with a Medicare performance the next game.


I think JC has been mostly consistent this year. He still has those spectacular failure moments but overall he has played how Luke wants him to play.

I would say this year he has had only 3 games that were terrible.

BTW. No TOs tonight.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:49 pm    Post subject:

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Tyreke just will not let JC catch him....JC goes off for 25....Tyreke 27 on the same night. (leading bench scorer)


Tyreke was a guy I wanted this summer. What did he end up settling for?


We'll see if he'll hold up.
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Tyreke just will not let JC catch him....JC goes off for 25....Tyreke 27 on the same night. (leading bench scorer)


Tyreke was a guy I wanted this summer. What did he end up settling for?


1 year...$3.29 Million....one of the best value (non rookie) contracts in the league this season.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson had it going, glad Luke didn't yank him.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject:

Great to see Jordan find his groove while leading the team to victory!!

Maybe this will quiet the naysayers for another day or two.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:02 am    Post subject:

SG Comparison for the Regular Season- Game 14

Interesting game. Defense was great, offense was okay, but we hit our 3s.

KCP - Very active and good defensively. But he did get scorched by Booker. Brewer did a better job defensively. KCP did make his 3s but overall, an average game. For all his positives on this game, there were negatives to counteract the benefits.

JC - Wow. Why can't we see this version of JC? I know why, because he only plays 20 minutes and gets yanked out even when he is playing well. Well not last night, Luke chose to ride him until the end. Finally.

No TO's with 3 assists, 3 boards, and 1 steal. Excellent game.

Hart - DNP. I am starting to think Hart is not ready. He is actually getting DNP's in favor of Blue. He has to learn to shoot the 3s and drive to the hoop, and make them. Otherwise, it will be a short NBA career.

Blue - Got some burn today but didn't really impact the game all that much. Zero's across the board except for 1 assist.

Easy game to call for JC.

Preseason Score:
JC 4
KCP 2
VBlue 0
Hart 0

Regular Season Score:
JC 6
KCP 6
BI 0
Brewer 1
VBlue 0
Hart 1

BTW.....I want to point out that I am a KCP fan since his Detroit days but I am more a Laker fan. I think some fans forget the point of being fans. Be positive and cheer on your team and stop beating down every player with negativity. For all the criticism JC gets, he has actually been real consistent this year and keeping up with any of the guards we have.

I want to see more of JC and KCP on the court together. The fast offense/defense approach is working when we use it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:04 am    Post subject:

Why are we keeping track of preseason? I get it when we had 0 regular season sample sizes, but I think we don't need that anymore (and how about the 2 games KCP couldn't play due to suspension)?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:06 am    Post subject:

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Why are we keeping track of preseason? I get it when we had 0 regular season sample sizes, but I think we don't need that anymore (and how about the 2 games KCP couldn't play due to suspension)?


Point noted. I will remove preseason and put an asterisk on KCP's total on the next one.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:14 am    Post subject:

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He's going to be too physically drained to perform well in the next game.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:15 am    Post subject:

Really pleased with how he's playing this year. Yes, some lapses, but overall, gives a much needed scoring punch b/c Lonzo/KCP/Ingram have been inconsistent overall in that department.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:19 am    Post subject:

JC was the difference last night
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject:

Kjj10697X wrote:
SG Comparison for the Regular Season- Game 14

Interesting game. Defense was great, offense was okay, but we hit our 3s.

KCP - Very active and good defensively. But he did get scorched by Booker. Brewer did a better job defensively. KCP did make his 3s but overall, an average game. For all his positives on this game, there were negatives to counteract the benefits.

JC - Wow. Why can't we see this version of JC? I know why, because he only plays 20 minutes and gets yanked out even when he is playing well. Well not last night, Luke chose to ride him until the end. Finally.

No TO's with 3 assists, 3 boards, and 1 steal. Excellent game.

Hart - DNP. I am starting to think Hart is not ready. He is actually getting DNP's in favor of Blue. He has to learn to shoot the 3s and drive to the hoop, and make them. Otherwise, it will be a short NBA career.

Blue - Got some burn today but didn't really impact the game all that much. Zero's across the board except for 1 assist.

Easy game to call for JC.

Preseason Score:
JC 4
KCP 2
VBlue 0
Hart 0

Regular Season Score:
JC 6
KCP 6
BI 0
Brewer 1
VBlue 0
Hart 1

BTW.....I want to point out that I am a KCP fan since his Detroit days but I am more a Laker fan. I think some fans forget the point of being fans. Be positive and cheer on your team and stop beating down every player with negativity. For all the criticism JC gets, he has actually been real consistent this year and keeping up with any of the guards we have.

I want to see more of JC and KCP on the court together. The fast offense/defense approach is working when we use it.


Why are you doing a sg comparison when JC has been playing PG for most of the season.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:24 am    Post subject:

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JC was the difference last night


Jordan's scoring carried the O and the team played great D against a high scoring team for the win!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:37 am    Post subject:

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SG Comparison for the Regular Season- Game 14

Interesting game. Defense was great, offense was okay, but we hit our 3s.

KCP - Very active and good defensively. But he did get scorched by Booker. Brewer did a better job defensively. KCP did make his 3s but overall, an average game. For all his positives on this game, there were negatives to counteract the benefits.

JC - Wow. Why can't we see this version of JC? I know why, because he only plays 20 minutes and gets yanked out even when he is playing well. Well not last night, Luke chose to ride him until the end. Finally.

No TO's with 3 assists, 3 boards, and 1 steal. Excellent game.

Hart - DNP. I am starting to think Hart is not ready. He is actually getting DNP's in favor of Blue. He has to learn to shoot the 3s and drive to the hoop, and make them. Otherwise, it will be a short NBA career.

Blue - Got some burn today but didn't really impact the game all that much. Zero's across the board except for 1 assist.

Easy game to call for JC.

Preseason Score:
JC 4
KCP 2
VBlue 0
Hart 0

Regular Season Score:
JC 6
KCP 6
BI 0
Brewer 1
VBlue 0
Hart 1

BTW.....I want to point out that I am a KCP fan since his Detroit days but I am more a Laker fan. I think some fans forget the point of being fans. Be positive and cheer on your team and stop beating down every player with negativity. For all the criticism JC gets, he has actually been real consistent this year and keeping up with any of the guards we have.

I want to see more of JC and KCP on the court together. The fast offense/defense approach is working when we use it.


Why are you doing a sg comparison when JC has been playing PG for most of the season.


That's a good question and I have considered stopping this but he does play SG for some minutes during the game. For example, last night he played 26 minutes and Zo played 28. So at 48 minutes a game, another player played PG for 20 minutes (48-28). BI played PG for roughly 6 minutes of the 4th. So all in all, JC played PG for 14 minutes (20-6). The other 12 minutes he was at SG.
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