View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
K0BEE 2.0 Franchise Player
Joined: 17 May 2013 Posts: 10949 Location: I wish I knew
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: Kobe yelling at Young on the bench during Hawks/Laker game |
|
|
LINK
You know ESPN is inching to make a article about this.. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
kimboviper Sixth Man
Joined: 24 Oct 2014 Posts: 41
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
he was yelling at Carlos Snoozer |
|
Back to top |
|
|
LakersMDGurl Franchise Player
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 18015
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Kobe's got no room to be yelling at no one.. .he is a part of this nasty thing we don't do called "defense" _________________ New Beginings |
|
Back to top |
|
|
freethrow Starting Rotation
Joined: 23 Oct 2014 Posts: 449 Location: 15 miles from Staples Center
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
That play is 100% on Boozer. Gets caught out of position, then switches on to Sefolosha, making Kobe look like HE got lost. I'd be pissed too.
Last edited by freethrow on Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:30 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bandiger Franchise Player
Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Posts: 12555
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:27 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If you watch closely Boozer (bleep) sagged off without informing Kobe and now it looks like Kobe plays no D |
|
Back to top |
|
|
KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 6429
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
bandiger wrote: | If you watch closely Boozer (bleep) sagged off without informing Kobe and now it looks like Kobe plays no D |
_________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
|
Back to top |
|
|
jonnybravo Retired Number
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 30706
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | bandiger wrote: | If you watch closely Boozer (bleep) sagged off without informing Kobe and now it looks like Kobe plays no D |
|
Pretty much.
Regardless of this, Kobe barks at teammates in the heat of games since forever.
What an idiotic thing to make a clip about as if it's somehow revealing. Guyth look at my discovery on TIVO! Kobe yelled at his teammates. Christ... |
|
Back to top |
|
|
44TheLogo Star Player
Joined: 21 Feb 2009 Posts: 6364
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
freethrow wrote: | That play is 100% on Boozer. Get's caught out of position, then switches on to Sefolosha, making Kobe look like HE got lost. I'd be pissed too. |
Yup. Boozer was worried about the penetration from Teague so he rotated off his man even though we 1) already had weakside rotation to help and 2) he was following Teague into the paint from behind and wouldn't have been able to do anything anyway. There's no way Nick Young should ever be rotating/helping off of Korver in any case. Would rather give up a wide open layup for two than a wide open layup for three. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
magickobe24 Starting Rotation
Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Posts: 217
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
LakersMDGurl wrote: | Kobe's got no room to be yelling at no one.. .he is a part of this nasty thing we don't do called "defense" | actually old man kobe has all the room in the world to yell at younger players. anytime you have an old man legend on your team DO NOT expect him to play defense. Just dont. if he plays any, its a bonus. Expect the younger guys to play better defense then the old man. The young guys should not be looking at kobe as their defensive guide. period. he's old, old men dont have the same breaks as they use to. so if they run to fast in one direction thats it. There is no cutting back in the other direction. This means they will leave someone wide open. Some will say well then why gamble? you have to gamble to create extra offense for a bad offensive bunch like ours.
Now as far as this screaming thing is concerned. I hate the internet. Because it makes it seem as if these things have never happened before. what if we had youtube footage of jordan punching kerr? But we dont. Even though we know it happened.
Kobe was yelling at Nick because not only was milsap open on that play(kobe was the closest. But so was korver. Korber is the most deadly of threats on that team. him being open made all of the lakers semi shift towards him as if they were going to get nicks man. you can see it when they show the replay in slo motion. With that said, kobe should've closed out on milsap as well. But who knows how that play started to begin with which placed kobe on milsap? Someone missed an assignment,a switch, or maybe a chance to trap the ball handler so that pass could never be made. But when you have vids like this completely out of context. It just looks like someone is being mean to someone else. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
magickobe24 Starting Rotation
Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Posts: 217
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | bandiger wrote: | If you watch closely Boozer (bleep) sagged off without informing Kobe and now it looks like Kobe plays no D |
| there ya have it |
|
Back to top |
|
|
JaySole Sixth Man
Joined: 21 Jan 2014 Posts: 68
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
magickobe24 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | bandiger wrote: | If you watch closely Boozer (bleep) sagged off without informing Kobe and now it looks like Kobe plays no D |
| there ya have it |
Boozer been in this league for how many years and still doesn't know how to play decent defense. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
kwyitkilla Starting Rotation
Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 611 Location: Los Angeles
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Dominique kind of looks like Julius |
|
Back to top |
|
|
JaySole Sixth Man
Joined: 21 Jan 2014 Posts: 68
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
jonnybravo wrote: |
Regardless of this, Kobe barks at teammates in the heat of games since forever.
What an idiotic thing to make a clip about as if it's somehow revealing. Guyth look at my discovery on TIVO! Kobe yelled at his teammates. Christ... |
Exactly! Kobe always been the commander
Last edited by JaySole on Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:11 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
|
frijolero01 Franchise Player
Joined: 10 May 2005 Posts: 13324
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
LakersMDGurl wrote: | Kobe's got no room to be yelling at no one.. .he is a part of this nasty thing we don't do called "defense" |
Kobe played about 15 years of great D. He's got all the room in the world. _________________ Thank you, Kobe. We love you. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Rugbar Starting Rotation
Joined: 14 Nov 2014 Posts: 203
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
magickobe24 wrote: | LakersMDGurl wrote: | Kobe's got no room to be yelling at no one.. .he is a part of this nasty thing we don't do called "defense" | actually old man kobe has all the room in the world to yell at younger players. anytime you have an old man legend on your team DO NOT expect him to play defense. Just dont. if he plays any, its a bonus. Expect the younger guys to play better defense then the old man. The young guys should not be looking at kobe as their defensive guide. period. he's old, old men dont have the same breaks as they use to. so if they run to fast in one direction thats it. There is no cutting back in the other direction. This means they will leave someone wide open. Some will say well then why gamble? you have to gamble to create extra offense for a bad offensive bunch like ours.
Now as far as this screaming thing is concerned. I hate the internet. Because it makes it seem as if these things have never happened before. what if we had youtube footage of jordan punching kerr? But we dont. Even though we know it happened.
Kobe was yelling at Nick because not only was milsap open on that play(kobe was the closest. But so was korver. Korber is the most deadly of threats on that team. him being open made all of the lakers semi shift towards him as if they were going to get nicks man. you can see it when they show the replay in slo motion. With that said, kobe should've closed out on milsap as well. But who knows how that play started to begin with which placed kobe on milsap? Someone missed an assignment,a switch, or maybe a chance to trap the ball handler so that pass could never be made. But when you have vids like this completely out of context. It just looks like someone is being mean to someone else. |
So we give Kobe a bye for his defense because he is so old. But what about his offense: his TS% is worse than the average for 29 out of 30 NBA teams. Oh yeah but he's old--except that John Stockton led the league in TS% when he was 38. But of course Stockton shot a lot less and focused on getting teammates involved.... Maybe Kobe should try that. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
fiendishoc Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 8488 Location: The (real) short corner
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Boozer didn't want to run all the way out there, so he sneakily switched on D so he could stay in the paint. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Voices Star Player
Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 8287 Location: Oxnard, Ca.
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Rugbar wrote: | magickobe24 wrote: | LakersMDGurl wrote: | Kobe's got no room to be yelling at no one.. .he is a part of this nasty thing we don't do called "defense" | actually old man kobe has all the room in the world to yell at younger players. anytime you have an old man legend on your team DO NOT expect him to play defense. Just dont. if he plays any, its a bonus. Expect the younger guys to play better defense then the old man. The young guys should not be looking at kobe as their defensive guide. period. he's old, old men dont have the same breaks as they use to. so if they run to fast in one direction thats it. There is no cutting back in the other direction. This means they will leave someone wide open. Some will say well then why gamble? you have to gamble to create extra offense for a bad offensive bunch like ours.
Now as far as this screaming thing is concerned. I hate the internet. Because it makes it seem as if these things have never happened before. what if we had youtube footage of jordan punching kerr? But we dont. Even though we know it happened.
Kobe was yelling at Nick because not only was milsap open on that play(kobe was the closest. But so was korver. Korber is the most deadly of threats on that team. him being open made all of the lakers semi shift towards him as if they were going to get nicks man. you can see it when they show the replay in slo motion. With that said, kobe should've closed out on milsap as well. But who knows how that play started to begin with which placed kobe on milsap? Someone missed an assignment,a switch, or maybe a chance to trap the ball handler so that pass could never be made. But when you have vids like this completely out of context. It just looks like someone is being mean to someone else. |
So we give Kobe a bye for his defense because he is so old. But what about his offense: his TS% is worse than the average for 29 out of 30 NBA teams. Oh yeah but he's old--except that John Stockton led the league in TS% when he was 38. But of course Stockton shot a lot less and focused on getting teammates involved.... Maybe Kobe should try that. |
How many championships did John win? _________________ .....
.....
ALTHOUGH HE STANDS 6 FEET 2 INCHES, JIM BUSS ATTENDED JOCKEY SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS 20. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
greenfrog Retired Number
Joined: 02 Jan 2011 Posts: 36081 Location: 502 Bad Gateway
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I can't see what Nick did wrong on that play. Maybe it was about something else. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
captain jack Starting Rotation
Joined: 17 Apr 2001 Posts: 687
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:39 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Rugbar wrote: | magickobe24 wrote: | LakersMDGurl wrote: | Kobe's got no room to be yelling at no one.. .he is a part of this nasty thing we don't do called "defense" | actually old man kobe has all the room in the world to yell at younger players. anytime you have an old man legend on your team DO NOT expect him to play defense. Just dont. if he plays any, its a bonus. Expect the younger guys to play better defense then the old man. The young guys should not be looking at kobe as their defensive guide. period. he's old, old men dont have the same breaks as they use to. so if they run to fast in one direction thats it. There is no cutting back in the other direction. This means they will leave someone wide open. Some will say well then why gamble? you have to gamble to create extra offense for a bad offensive bunch like ours.
Now as far as this screaming thing is concerned. I hate the internet. Because it makes it seem as if these things have never happened before. what if we had youtube footage of jordan punching kerr? But we dont. Even though we know it happened.
Kobe was yelling at Nick because not only was milsap open on that play(kobe was the closest. But so was korver. Korber is the most deadly of threats on that team. him being open made all of the lakers semi shift towards him as if they were going to get nicks man. you can see it when they show the replay in slo motion. With that said, kobe should've closed out on milsap as well. But who knows how that play started to begin with which placed kobe on milsap? Someone missed an assignment,a switch, or maybe a chance to trap the ball handler so that pass could never be made. But when you have vids like this completely out of context. It just looks like someone is being mean to someone else. |
So we give Kobe a bye for his defense because he is so old. But what about his offense: his TS% is worse than the average for 29 out of 30 NBA teams. Oh yeah but he's old--except that John Stockton led the league in TS% when he was 38. But of course Stockton shot a lot less and focused on getting teammates involved.... Maybe Kobe should try that. |
That's not what they are saying... you are going to the extreme. If you've played sports before players get on each other during games. Basketball is more obvious because its in the open, but if you visit any dugout or sideline of a football game you will hear a lot. Comparing Stockton to Kobe -- is like comparing apples to oranges, let it rest. Is this Dwight Howard? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Rugbar Starting Rotation
Joined: 14 Nov 2014 Posts: 203
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Ha, no this is not Dwight Howard. And yes you're right that it's an apples to orange comparison. And sure sideline conversations can get heated...
But Kobe has got to stop shooting so much. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Drifts Retired Number
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
that was Kobe's man. period. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 21499
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Drifts wrote: | that was Kobe's man. period. |
It was Boozers man, and the defense felt the same way. Thats why #25 came up to screen Boozer so he couldn't contest the shot. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
fiendishoc Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 8488 Location: The (real) short corner
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
greenfrog wrote: | I can't see what Nick did wrong on that play. Maybe it was about something else. |
Kobe was yelling at Boozer on the bench. You can see Booz way to the left. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
RetroNikes Star Player
Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 6376
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ESPN shouldn't make a story out of this, because there's a lot video footage of LeBron yelling at Chalmers. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Drifts Retired Number
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374
|
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | Drifts wrote: | that was Kobe's man. period. |
It was Boozers man, and the defense felt the same way. Thats why #25 came up to screen Boozer so he couldn't contest the shot. |
I think Kobe should have been the one to close out, instead of a slow-footed big man, who was going to be out of position anyway to grab the rebound in case of a miss... that would have also allowed Kobe to be available for a fastbreak opportunity in case the Lakers grab the board. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|