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 Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:53 am Post subject: Saying that the Lakers should tank for a high draft pick is equal to saying that a person should cut off a leg to get good parking. |
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I think that this position is ass backwards thinking and not the Laker way. Some of the these so called laker fans must be transported fans from other teams, not life long laker fans. If you are a lifelong fan, you know that the Lakers don't operate that way. How many high draft picks actually become a franchise changing player? Very few. For every Kevin Durant there is a Greg Oden.
Philly has been Tanking for years and are still terrible. Cleveland won the lottery 2 straight years and 3 outta the last 5. It took them to get lucky in free agency to become a great team again.
Being in the lottery is an opportunity at a chance for a potentially good player that may turn into t franchise player. You are there as a result of not being able to put together a winning team. It is not something that you shoot for!
I wish you guys stop with this tank mentality. If you want to be a fan of a team that purposely tanks, go cheer for the Sixers! |
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That's why this team is achieving a tank while not tanking like the 76ers, aka "Stealth Tank." Or did you think Hill/JLin would propel this team to the playoffs?
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you can't re-grow your leg, but Lakers can resurrect via a high draft pick, talking about bad analogies.
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| If we don't perform well and we end up in the lottery, fine, we will go, scout and grab a potentially good player. But all that losing on purpose talk is blasphemous! |
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| The Lakers aren't gonna tank.... once the wins pile up... all the pro-tankers will disappear from LG... so there is nothing to worry about. I understand the concept of thinking for the future... but teams like GS were in the phrase of making future moves and it took them decades to become a contender again.... you people don't understand what it means to have a opportunity when it's in front of you. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Saying that the Lakers should tank for a high draft pick is equal to saying that a person should cut off a leg to get good parking. |
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| Harlemlakerfan wrote: |
Philly has been Tanking for years and are still terrible. |
If Philly was tanking for years, why did they trade for Bynum? |
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| Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | If we don't perform well and we end up in the lottery, fine, we will go, scout and grab a potentially good player. But all that losing on purpose talk is blasphemous! |
No one is losing on purpose. Tank jobs are the creation of the front office, not the players. Players are evaluated by other teams and we have lots of guys in contract years. They have no incentive to suck.
But management clearly went with a placeholder team and when Randle went down, they probably pushed the "Stealth Tank" button.
So don't worry, the players will play. Management will do their stealth tank duties.
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legs don't grow back.
Also - we haven't tanked in a while and we suck too. At some point we have to start rebuilding.
Our chances of winning THIS year are very slim so why not sacrifice it for a good draft pick?
It's not like we are 1 or 2 moves away from a championship. We are actually closer to a lottery team than a championship, and if we are going to suck and get nothing out of it, why not suck and get a top 5 pick out of it? |
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Harlemlakerfan
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | your can re-grow your leg, but Lakers can resurrect via a high draft pick, talking about bad analogies. |
Your right but key word, you CAN, not that you will. It's people like you that help elevate Vegas to the metropolis that it is today. Taking all of you savings, jumping on a plane and betting on black, instead of taking that same savings and investing it.
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| Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | your can re-grow your leg, but Lakers can resurrect via a high draft pick, talking about bad analogies. |
Your right but key word, you CAN, not that you will. It's people like you that help elevate Vegas to the metropolis that it is today. Talking all of you savings , jumping on a plane and betting on black, instead of taking that same savings and investing it. |
I take it you've never hit a 5 with a 16 in blackjack. |
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No need for amputation at all ... just ask Bynum.
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | your can re-grow your leg, but Lakers can resurrect via a high draft pick, talking about bad analogies. |
Modern medicine! We can re-grow our legs now! |
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| It's more like cut off your leg to prevent gangrene from spreading to other parts of your body. At least then, we'll survive. If not, we're as good as dead. |
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It's a sinking ship. Rather than bailing water out of the ship, you let it sink.
Then you use insurance proceeds (draft pick) and buy a new and better ship.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | It's a sinking ship. Rather than bailing water out of the ship, you let it sink.
Then you use insurance proceeds (draft pick) and buy a new and better ship. |
Except for you are letting the ship sink with the most priceless diamond on board.
I had no idea Kobe would come back so strong. Tanking while he is still here is a horrible idea. Last year he was hurt and i was all about tanking. This year, we are on the cusp of being a pretty good team just because he is playing at such a high level. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | It's a sinking ship. Rather than bailing water out of the ship, you let it sink.
Then you use insurance proceeds (draft pick) and buy a new and better ship. |
If you're analogy was true... the Clippers would have been a dynasty by now with all those lottery picks they piled up over the past few decades...... nothing is guaranteed that's why teams are always trying to Improve instead of wait and hope something falls on there lap... with that kind of mindset it would be hard winning a championship... that is why the Warriors/Clippers/Sixers haven't won jack-squat for years and years. |
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| rock0100 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | It's a sinking ship. Rather than bailing water out of the ship, you let it sink.
Then you use insurance proceeds (draft pick) and buy a new and better ship. |
Except for you are letting the ship sink with the most priceless diamond on board.
I had no idea Kobe would come back so strong. Tanking while he is still here is a horrible idea. Last year he was hurt and i was all about tanking. This year, we are on the cusp of being a pretty good team just because he is playing at such a high level. |
No, you take that diamond off the ship. How do you propose to salvage this ship? There isn't a way with the lack of assets we have.
We are absolutely not on the cusp of a good team. We beat 2 teams that didn't have multiple starters. This is likely a team that wins in the 20s (while trying its best). We don't have the pieces on the court to succeed.
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if Spurs didn't tank in 1997, how many championships they would've win?
let me guess, probably a big fat 0? |
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What happened to our 1st round pick, franchise player this year? Broke his leg 1st game in.
You don't intentionally lose games all year long banking on ONE unproven kid who's never played a single nba game.
The lakers will continue to keep cap space open and swing hard for the big name proven stars, as they've always done. This team tank thing is just stupid and it's not the Lakers way of thinking at all.
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | The Lakers aren't gonna tank.... once the wins pile up... all the pro-tankers will disappear from LG... so there is nothing to worry about. I understand the concept of thinking for the future... but teams like GS were in the phrase of making future moves and it took them decades to become a contender again.... you people don't understand what it means to have a opportunity when it's in front of you. |
Aren't you a Pro-Tanker? Remember what you said that New Orleans would trade Anthony Davis for the overall #1 pick this year. Need a link reminder? |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | if Spurs didn't tank in 1997, how many championships they would've win?
let me guess, probably a big fat 0? |
What makes you think they would have nothing? what about all the major cap-space they would have had if they didn't give Tim Duncan all those mega contract extensions? they still could have built a contender. |
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| golaker wrote: | What happened to our 1st round pick, franchise player this year? Broke his leg 1st game in.
You don't intentionally lose games all year long banking on ONE unproven kid who's never played a single nba game.
The lakers will continue to keep cap space open and swing hard for the big name proven stars, as they've always done. This team tank thing is just stupid and it's not the Lakers way of thinking at all. |
Nor will they expend assets this trade deadline to significantly improve the team IMO. What did they do at the trade deadline last year? Nothing. They knew they were within range to get a top draft pick.
Of course Randle didn't work out this season but they were thrilled at getting him.
If they cared so much about winning this season, the offseason would have been much different.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Saying that the Lakers should tank for a high draft pick is equal to saying that a person should cut off a leg to get good parking. |
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| Harlemlakerfan wrote: | I think that this position is ass backwards thinking and not the Laker way. Some of the these so called laker fans must be transported fans from other teams, not life long laker fans. If you are a lifelong fan, you know that the Lakers don't operate that way. How many high draft picks actually become a franchise changing player? Very few. For every Kevin Durant there is a Greg Oden.
Philly has been Tanking for years and are still terrible. Cleveland won the lottery 2 straight years and 3 outta the last 5. It took them to get lucky in free agency to become a great team again.
Being in the lottery is an opportunity at a chance for a potentially good player that may turn into t franchise player. You are there as a result of not being able to put together a winning team. It is not something that you shoot for!
I wish you guys stop with this tank mentality. If you want to be a fan of a team that purposely tanks, go cheer for the Sixers! |
The problem with your reasoning is that it assumes that the traditional "laker way" can succeed in the context of the current CBA. I question that assumption.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Saying that the Lakers should tank for a high draft pick is equal to saying that a person should cut off a leg to get good parking. |
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| Harlemlakerfan wrote: | I think that this position is ass backwards thinking and not the Laker way. Some of the these so called laker fans must be transported fans from other teams, not life long laker fans. If you are a lifelong fan, you know that the Lakers don't operate that way. How many high draft picks actually become a franchise changing player? Very few. For every Kevin Durant there is a Greg Oden.
Philly has been Tanking for years and are still terrible. Cleveland won the lottery 2 straight years and 3 outta the last 5. It took them to get lucky in free agency to become a great team again.
Being in the lottery is an opportunity at a chance for a potentially good player that may turn into t franchise player. You are there as a result of not being able to put together a winning team. It is not something that you shoot for!
I wish you guys stop with this tank mentality. If you want to be a fan of a team that purposely tanks, go cheer for the Sixers ! |
Been a laker fan since the magic days. was still here during the pig miller antonio harvey and terry teagal days. So all that "you must not be a REAL fan" stuff is hilarious to me.
Truth is, perhaps you dont understand the new cba
perhaps you dont understand the ramification of that nixed cp3 deal.
The laker way..lol. the laker way is to win rings. and if we dont the year was a bust. iF thats the case why let the year be a bust barely missing the playoffs. when it can be the exact same bust while we acquire young talent in the draft. now said draftee may not become a great player in the nba. but he might LOOK like he could be. So that is also a trade piece down the line(which is the worse case scenario).
So sorry bud. Tanking in this instance is a smart move to make. Ask the spurs how they got Tim duncan. |
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| golaker wrote: | What happened to our 1st round pick, franchise player this year? Broke his leg 1st game in.
You don't intentionally lose games all year long banking on ONE unproven kid who's never played a single nba game. |
Oh wait ... I hadn't heard that Randle retired.
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