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K0BEE 2.0 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:25 pm Post subject: Davis should be averaging more then 9/7 |
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There is no reason to put him out of the game in the last 6M of the 4th quarter his man-to-man defense and his interior defense is to valuable especially if it's a close game... I don't have faith in Boozer or Hill defending the other teams best big-man down the stretch..... he should be getting more points up but he hardly ever receives the ball. |
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JuanCesta Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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I agree he should be starting and be the 4th option with PNR Dunks and Putbacks.
Bench Boozer and Move Hill to PF |
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AVoiceInTheCrowd Sixth Man
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Davis is the only big who protects the rim on this team right now. BS has been preaching defense, defense and more defense. So why not put your best defensive big into the starting line-up? |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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We don't know that promises were made to Hill. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Shaqman55 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ed is splitting minutes with Hilly right now cause Sacre stinks and without Ed off the bench, the 2nd unit allows even more easy buckets.
Furthermore, cutting booz's minutes would just make him shrink into a shell.
BS wants to try to keep Booz's ego intact, and he knows ED can handle any role he puts him in _________________ RIP Kobe and Gigi <333 |
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K0BEE 2.0 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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If Davis was the starter and played 35M per night.... and he got the ball... he would easily be a 17/8 guy every night..... sucks how the Lakers are hurting his potential. |
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Janggoon8 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ed Davis is a good shot blocker. Jordan hill can shoot, rebound, and is just about the same type of man defender that Davis is. Plus, we haven't had many opportunities to see who works best in the 4th. |
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Janggoon8 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | If Davis was the starter and played 35M per night.... and he got the ball... he would easily be a 17/8 guy every night..... sucks how the Lakers are hurting his potential. |
If Davis was a 17/8 guy, he would not have accepted a 2 year, 2 million dollar contract. Davis doesn't even think he's good as you say he is. |
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Janggoon8 wrote: | Jordan hill is just about the same type of man defender that Davis is. |
He really isnt _________________ Kobe |
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saacman5033 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | If Davis was the starter and played 35M per night.... and he got the ball... he would easily be a 17/8 guy every night..... sucks how the Lakers are hurting his potential. |
So Davis would EASILY produce at the clip of this year's Gasol or Duncan? |
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K0BEE 2.0 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Janggoon8 wrote: | If Davis was a 17/8 guy, he would not have accepted a 2 year, 2 million dollar contract. Davis doesn't even think he's good as you say he is. |
Is this post serious? the only reason why he took that small deal is to get a opportunity for a bigger one..... Meeks is a good example.... Davis is a really talented big-man but the Lakers are hindering his potential. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Davis needs to not foul so much, he seems to be getting better at not doing that.
And last night against Houston it was smart of Scott to put in the small lineup with Wes instead of Davis because he knew that Houston would be trying to shoot threes and wouldn't go inside much. |
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saacman5033 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | Is this post serious? |
Oh the irony! |
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LakerLand247 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | Janggoon8 wrote: | If Davis was a 17/8 guy, he would not have accepted a 2 year, 2 million dollar contract. Davis doesn't even think he's good as you say he is. |
Is this post serious? the only reason why he took that small deal is to get a opportunity for a bigger one..... Meeks is a good example.... Davis is a really talented big-man but the Lakers are hindering his potential. |
In the start of the season didn't you predict that Boozer would be a 20/10 guy? Boozer's been 13.4/6.9 guy averaging 28min per. |
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anpherknee Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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shhhhhhhhhhhh we are trying to hide him so we can re-sign him on the cheap next summer guys |
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Janggoon8 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | Janggoon8 wrote: | If Davis was a 17/8 guy, he would not have accepted a 2 year, 2 million dollar contract. Davis doesn't even think he's good as you say he is. |
Is this post serious? the only reason why he took that small deal is to get a opportunity for a bigger one..... Meeks is a good example.... Davis is a really talented big-man but the Lakers are hindering his potential. |
I believe this is called trolling, right? You're trolling.
Talented big men do not emerge at the age of 25-26. He is who he is. A player who would get no more than 10-12 minutes on our 08-10 championship squad. |
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freethrow Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Janggoon8 wrote: | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | If Davis was the starter and played 35M per night.... and he got the ball... he would easily be a 17/8 guy every night..... sucks how the Lakers are hurting his potential. |
If Davis was a 17/8 guy, he would not have accepted a 2 year, 2 million dollar contract. Davis doesn't even think he's good as you say he is. |
Player option second year. Very wise move by his agent. He's gonna get paid. |
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Voices Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | Janggoon8 wrote: | If Davis was a 17/8 guy, he would not have accepted a 2 year, 2 million dollar contract. Davis doesn't even think he's good as you say he is. |
Is this post serious? the only reason why he took that small deal is to get a opportunity for a bigger one..... Meeks is a good example.... Davis is a really talented big-man but the Lakers are hindering his potential. |
Keep in mind the Lakers have only 5 remaining from last years team, Davis is not one of them, lets give some time before getting to excited about a player not playing. Davis IMO will get his chance, be patient the crème will rise to the top. _________________ .....
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ALTHOUGH HE STANDS 6 FEET 2 INCHES, JIM BUSS ATTENDED JOCKEY SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS 20. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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He's probably not getting a lot more minutes probably because he's used to playing as a sub. Increase his minutes too fast and his production might drop off. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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anpherknee wrote: | shhhhhhhhhhhh we are trying to hide him so we can re-sign him on the cheap next summer guys |
I was actually thinking this about Davis the other day |
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fafan Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with giving Davis more minutes. But he still has some things need to work on like FT, jump shoot. _________________ "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." --Sarah Cook. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Davis is one of my favorite players and a great defensive player.
He's also a good rebounder but his range and free throw shooting would prevent him from being a threat to average 17 points per game at this point.
Maybe with more playing time, in a few years, he may be able to attain those numbers. |
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Type Raba Sixth Man
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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davis doesnt "need" a jumpshot per se. he's a poor man's tyson chandler. play defense (without fouling ) and on offense pnr. if you give him the ball in the paint, on the move, he can make something happen. he's very mobile and plays above the rim. he also has a nice soft touch around the rim. recently he's missed some real gimmes but his super high fg% in preseason shows his finishing ability. i agree he needs to work on his ft. also the few times he's posted up his drop step is a nice move.
a line up where they can spread the floor and run pnr would give him very easy buckets. |
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Andre2K Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:34 am Post subject: |
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anpherknee wrote: | shhhhhhhhhhhh we are trying to hide him so we can re-sign him on the cheap next summer guys |
This and the fact that he is a horrible free throw shooter you don't want him closing out 4th quarters. _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
Pg Lonzo
Sg Kawhi
Sf Ingram
Pf Lebron
C Dedmon
Bench: Caruso, Hart, Bullock, Kuzma, McGee etc |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:39 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Davis needs to not foul so much, he seems to be getting better at not doing that.
And last night against Houston it was smart of Scott to put in the small lineup with Wes instead of Davis because he knew that Houston would be trying to shoot threes and wouldn't go inside much. |
Part of that is their bad perimeter defense, as it gets better he will be in better position to alter shots instead of being hung out to dry.
As for the rotation, Davis should get extra minutes as he's their best defensive post player. I don't think Scott will alter things that much though. Hill's game is improved but he's still playing 50% more minutes than his season high and he has more than a few years filled with injuries. Davis only averages around 60 games per year, and Boozer is getting older. No matter if Boozer puts up 20/10, Hill has a well rounded game, or Davis heads a swing that wins a game...Scott knows better than to run one of the 3 into the ground. |
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