Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: Why is Kobe passing MJ so important?
Who cares?
It's a cumulative all-time record and a regular season record at that. Even when Kobe passes Jordan, he'll still be behind Karl Malone, a noted choker.
Jordan still has a much better PPG and FG%, so it's not like Kobe will have proven himself to be a better scorer.
The record is utterly meaningless, especially since it's only a regular season accomplishment, something us Lakers fans have never cared about.
Kobe is killing himself pursuing it. I don't get it. I think Kobe could possibly be an effective player at 39-40, so why doesn't he limit himself to 25-28 minutes per game in these down years (which would STILL get him past Jordan) in the interest of being fresh in a couple years when the Lakers can possibly put a decent team together, and Kobe finishes his career at least in the playoffs, even if it's as an 8th seed (this franchise is years from championship contention, so there will no one last run for Kobe, but at least he'll bow out gracefully from the NBA in the post-season rather than on a lottery team, even if he's in a 6th man role at that time).
Still better than chucking for meaningless records.
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it matters because from a historic standpoint, it matters. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it."
It was the guy whom he modeled his game after so I guess personally its pretty damn important....to everyone else it probably doesn't matter that much.
Because thats the only thing he has left. He knows hes out of rings, hell never catch jordan unless he sticks around to chase one with a stacked team.
Hell say it doesnt matter, but the man is obsessed with proving, even if its by matching point total, that he is as good or better than Jordan.
The interesting thing will be after he passes jordan. Then what?
That's the question I'm asking.
Him gunning for this record as aggressively as he has been tells me next year is his last.
If he truly intended on playing til 40 and getting in the playoffs one last time (with the Lakers), he'd be limiting himself right now.
then what? you think the world will end? Kobe will just go on playing the game... life goes on. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it."
Who do people think Kobe is shooting a lot and playing heavy minutes just to pass MJ? He will do it even if he averaged 10 pts per game. He is trying to WIN _________________ "My thirst for domination is fed only by the game. I refuse to get distracted by outside forces." - Kobe Bryant
Because thats the only thing he has left. He knows hes out of rings, hell never catch jordan unless he sticks around to chase one with a stacked team.
Hell say it doesnt matter, but the man is obsessed with proving, even if its by matching point total, that he is as good or better than Jordan.
The interesting thing will be after he passes jordan. Then what?
That's the question I'm asking.
Him gunning for this record as aggressively as he has been tells me next year is his last.
If he truly intended on playing til 40 and getting in the playoffs one last time (with the Lakers), he'd be limiting himself right now.
No, that is your conjecture. He very well may play until he's 40. He very well may be playing this number of minutes because he believes he can. What he does at the end of this contract will be determined by a number of factors I'm sure. Which game he passes MJ on points is unlikely to be any factor at all in any sphere in which he passes him. Now if you suppose that he's going after KAJ, then your post would make some sense because he knows he has to find 6000K points before his body goes. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
after all, how many times do you hear "Kareem is the all time points leader" from anyone in the industry? ESPN? Anyone?
I've heard it maybe once about 3 years ago
When Kobe pass MJ, it'll get mentioned a couple of times when he does it...and the next day it'll be forgotten
In other words, it's a list no one cares about except maybe the players themselves and is pretty much completely meaningless
Kobe's fanatical fans will make a big deal out of it, but in the rest of the world it'll be forgotten pretty fast _________________ LBJ + AD = More rings
Never argue with a fool - listeners can't tell you apart
Wilt's unstoppable fadeaway: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9MgNfcGJA
NPZ's Magic Johnson mix: www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI
after all, how many times do you hear "Kareem is the all time points leader" from anyone in the industry? ESPN? Anyone?
I've heard it maybe once about 3 years ago
When Kobe pass MJ, it'll get mentioned a couple of times when he does it...and the next day it'll be forgotten
In other words, it's a list no one cares about except maybe the players themselves and is pretty much completely meaningless
Kobe's fanatical fans will make a big deal out of it while so many "realistic fans will be petty and try to rain on their parade just because they are obsessed as obsessed with Kobe as any Kobe fan but can't admit it, but in the rest of the world it'll be forgotten pretty fast
Fixed it for you. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
after all, how many times do you hear "Kareem is the all time points leader" from anyone in the industry? ESPN? Anyone?
I've heard it maybe once about 3 years ago
When Kobe pass MJ, it'll get mentioned a couple of times when he does it...and the next day it'll be forgotten
In other words, it's a list no one cares about except maybe the players themselves and is pretty much completely meaningless
Kobe's fanatical fans will make a big deal out of it while so many "realistic fans will be petty and try to rain on their parade just because they are obsessed as obsessed with Kobe as any Kobe fan but can't admit it, but in the rest of the world it'll be forgotten pretty fast
Fixed it for you.
No, it's more like we're "obsessed" with this organization moving forward.
The Lakers franchise is vastly more important than any individual player and meaningless regular season records.
And if Kobe insists on coming back after his contract is up only to catch Kareem, he'll further hold back this franchise from rebuilding.
Kobe needs to face reality and realize he isn't an elite player anymore, despite his PPG. His defense is terrible, he's turnover prone, and his iso-oriented game is antiquated.
The reason I harp on Kobe limiting himself is because he could be a very effective player in the 6th man role (in a couple years if the Lakers manage to build a decent team). His subpar defense won't be such a liability against an opponent's 2nd unit and he could provide a scoring spark, a la Jamal Crawford or Manu Ginobili.
It's a much more dignified way to go out, which also helps the Lakers, rather than using our team as means to his record chasing end.
after all, how many times do you hear "Kareem is the all time points leader" from anyone in the industry? ESPN? Anyone?
I've heard it maybe once about 3 years ago
When Kobe pass MJ, it'll get mentioned a couple of times when he does it...and the next day it'll be forgotten
In other words, it's a list no one cares about except maybe the players themselves and is pretty much completely meaningless
Kobe's fanatical fans will make a big deal out of it while so many "realistic fans will be petty and try to rain on their parade just because they are obsessed as obsessed with Kobe as any Kobe fan but can't admit it, but in the rest of the world it'll be forgotten pretty fast
Fixed it for you.
No, it's more like we're "obsessed" with this organization moving forward.
The Lakers franchise is vastly more important than any individual player and meaningless regular season records.
And if Kobe insists on coming back after his contract is up only to catch Kareem, he'll further hold back this franchise from rebuilding.
Kobe needs to face reality and realize he isn't an elite player anymore, despite his PPG. His defense is terrible, he's turnover prone, and his iso-oriented game is antiquated.
The reason I harp on Kobe limiting himself is because he could be a very effective player in the 6th man role (in a couple years if the Lakers manage to build a decent team). His subpar defense won't be such a liability against an opponent's 2nd unit and he could provide a scoring spark, a la Jamal Crawford or Manu Ginobili.
It's a much more dignified way to go out, which also helps the Lakers, rather than using our team as means to his record chasing end.
You must think you're talking to a fool. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
after all, how many times do you hear "Kareem is the all time points leader" from anyone in the industry? ESPN? Anyone?
I've heard it maybe once about 3 years ago
When Kobe pass MJ, it'll get mentioned a couple of times when he does it...and the next day it'll be forgotten
In other words, it's a list no one cares about except maybe the players themselves and is pretty much completely meaningless
Kobe's fanatical fans will make a big deal out of it while so many "realistic fans will be petty and try to rain on their parade just because they are obsessed as obsessed with Kobe as any Kobe fan but can't admit it, but in the rest of the world it'll be forgotten pretty fast
Fixed it for you.
No, you fixed it for yourself _________________ LBJ + AD = More rings
Never argue with a fool - listeners can't tell you apart
Wilt's unstoppable fadeaway: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9MgNfcGJA
NPZ's Magic Johnson mix: www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI
after all, how many times do you hear "Kareem is the all time points leader" from anyone in the industry? ESPN? Anyone?
I've heard it maybe once about 3 years ago
When Kobe pass MJ, it'll get mentioned a couple of times when he does it...and the next day it'll be forgotten
In other words, it's a list no one cares about except maybe the players themselves and is pretty much completely meaningless
Kobe's fanatical fans will make a big deal out of it while so many "realistic fans will be petty and try to rain on their parade just because they are obsessed as obsessed with Kobe as any Kobe fan but can't admit it, but in the rest of the world it'll be forgotten pretty fast
Fixed it for you.
No, you fixed it for yourself
Try to do some people a favor....sheesh. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
after all, how many times do you hear "Kareem is the all time points leader" from anyone in the industry? ESPN? Anyone?
I've heard it maybe once about 3 years ago
When Kobe pass MJ, it'll get mentioned a couple of times when he does it...and the next day it'll be forgotten
In other words, it's a list no one cares about except maybe the players themselves and is pretty much completely meaningless
Kobe's fanatical fans will make a big deal out of it while so many "realistic fans will be petty and try to rain on their parade just because they are obsessed as obsessed with Kobe as any Kobe fan but can't admit it, but in the rest of the world it'll be forgotten pretty fast
Fixed it for you.
No, it's more like we're "obsessed" with this organization moving forward.
The Lakers franchise is vastly more important than any individual player and meaningless regular season records.
And if Kobe insists on coming back after his contract is up only to catch Kareem, he'll further hold back this franchise from rebuilding.
Kobe needs to face reality and realize he isn't an elite player anymore, despite his PPG. His defense is terrible, he's turnover prone, and his iso-oriented game is antiquated.
The reason I harp on Kobe limiting himself is because he could be a very effective player in the 6th man role (in a couple years if the Lakers manage to build a decent team). His subpar defense won't be such a liability against an opponent's 2nd unit and he could provide a scoring spark, a la Jamal Crawford or Manu Ginobili.
It's a much more dignified way to go out, which also helps the Lakers, rather than using our team as means to his record chasing end.
after all, how many times do you hear "Kareem is the all time points leader" from anyone in the industry? ESPN? Anyone?
I've heard it maybe once about 3 years ago
When Kobe pass MJ, it'll get mentioned a couple of times when he does it...and the next day it'll be forgotten
In other words, it's a list no one cares about except maybe the players themselves and is pretty much completely meaningless
Kobe's fanatical fans will make a big deal out of it while so many "realistic fans will be petty and try to rain on their parade just because they are obsessed as obsessed with Kobe as any Kobe fan but can't admit it, but in the rest of the world it'll be forgotten pretty fast
Fixed it for you.
No, you fixed it for yourself
Try to do some people a favor....sheesh.
You were not doing me a favor. You were doing a favor for yourself so you could play the persecution card - yet again. _________________ LBJ + AD = More rings
Never argue with a fool - listeners can't tell you apart
Wilt's unstoppable fadeaway: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9MgNfcGJA
NPZ's Magic Johnson mix: www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI
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