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Lakerpark
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 Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:38 am Post subject: Lakers Lottery Pick for 2015 and how does the Lottery work? |
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Hi All,
I'm unclear on how the Lottery works and how bad the Lakers need to finish to guarantee that they don't lose that pick to Phoenix.
Can anyone concisely explain this to me?
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Lakers Lottery Pick for 2015 and how does the Lottery work? |
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| Lakerpark wrote: | Hi All,
I'm unclear on how the Lottery works and how bad the Lakers need to finish to guarantee that they don't lose that pick to Phoenix.
Can anyone concisely explain this to me?
thank you |
This year, to keep the pick that is owed to PHX, need to have a top 5 pick.
Only way to GUARANTEE getting a top 5 pick is to have the bottom 2 spots. Philly has the worst record on lock.
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| bottom 3 record gives us like a 80-90% chance to keep our pick. bottom 3 is where we wanna be |
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petergr
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Here are the odds based on the above chart
Bottom 2: 100%
Bottom 3: 96%
Bottom 4: 83%
Bottom 5: 55%
Bottom 6: 22%
Bottom 7: 14%
etc |
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misterrunon
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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dear kobe: keep jacking up those shots.
dear boozer: good up with the good work on defense.
i'm happy if we end up with the 4th worst record in the league.. 83% chance to get a top 5 is pretty good. |
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dont_be_a_wuss
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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The first 3 picks are decided by a lottery. And all 16 non playoff team are eligible, with declining probability of winning. 25% to something like 1%
Then the rest of the picks are assigned in order by worst record.
If the 3 team who win the lottery have a better record than us, we would have to be the 2nd to worst team in the league.
If 2 teams with a better record than us win, we would need to be third worst, etc. |
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GasolBynumKobe
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Aside from Philly, who's worse than us?
Knicks are trying to make a run. Boston might try to out tank us but that would be hard.
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| Melo might have had a back problem on Monday night during the game against Houston. |
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PICKnPOP
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers have too much pride to tank correctly. we will be in the bottom 7 again
Hopefully we get some love this year and land the top pick anyway |
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Dave20
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The lottery is rigged, it's why the Cavs got all of those #1 picks. The league knows that the Lakers have to keep this pick and I think they will. |
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marga86
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| tank team baby!! |
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LakerLand247
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| Dave20 wrote: | | The lottery is rigged, it's why the Cavs got all of those #1 picks. The league knows that the Lakers have to keep this pick and I think they will. |
If it is rigged (yea its rigged) I believe it is rigged to hurt the Lakers. The NBA still sees all the chips and feels we can always retool via free agency but unfortunately it isn't the case anymore. Yes, we're the premiere franchise in the NBA, so good or bad we'll still get viewership. .. is what they are think, in my opinion.
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Damn, not even a month into the regular season, and it's come to this.
The sad state of affairs in the Lakers org.
Chick and Dr. Buss are rolling in their graves. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| tlim wrote: | Damn, not even a month into the regular season, and it's come to this.
The sad state of affairs in the Lakers org.
Chick and Dr. Buss are rolling in their graves. |
I'm sure they're hopeful we'll draft a stud  |
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madddogg
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Just win enough to be bottom 4, which probally will be <20 games. Just keep doing what we are doing. |
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Let's assume for a moment the lottery is rigged (don't really want to get into that argument).
If it were rigged, I think it would be time for the Lakers to get some love. It would be a matter of economics. The whole profit sharing scheme the owners cooked up is reliant on the big market teams being successful and drawing money. LA is the second biggest market. It behooves the league to keep the team relevant. So, if the draft is really rigged, I think the Lakers keep their pick this year... maybe even the top pick.
I don't really subscribe to that conspiracy theory though. |
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LakerLand247
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| BigEvil wrote: | Let's assume for a moment the lottery is rigged (don't really want to get into that argument).
If it were rigged, I think it would be time for the Lakers to get some love. It would be a matter of economics. The whole profit sharing scheme the owners cooked up is reliant on the big market teams being successful and drawing money. LA is the second biggest market. It behooves the league to keep the team relevant. So, if the draft is really rigged, I think the Lakers keep their pick this year... maybe even the top pick.
I don't really subscribe to that conspiracy theory though. |
The small market teams likes seeing the Lakers struggle. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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or... we flip the switch, finish 1st (and win the championship of course) and let this be heard during draft night: "with the 30th pick of the draft, the Feenucks Suns select..."  |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLand247 wrote: | | BigEvil wrote: | Let's assume for a moment the lottery is rigged (don't really want to get into that argument).
If it were rigged, I think it would be time for the Lakers to get some love. It would be a matter of economics. The whole profit sharing scheme the owners cooked up is reliant on the big market teams being successful and drawing money. LA is the second biggest market. It behooves the league to keep the team relevant. So, if the draft is really rigged, I think the Lakers keep their pick this year... maybe even the top pick.
I don't really subscribe to that conspiracy theory though. |
The small market teams likes seeing the Lakers struggle. |
Well if it is indeed rigged, then I don't think small market teams would have any say in how its rigged. If anything, if I'm being a conspiracy theorist, I'd say bigger markets are controlling the moves made (which obviously isn't the case since Knicks and Lakers are literally (bleep)).
If the league was to rig the lottery, giving the Lakers a future franchise player would benefit them more then anything. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLand247 wrote: | | BigEvil wrote: | Let's assume for a moment the lottery is rigged (don't really want to get into that argument).
If it were rigged, I think it would be time for the Lakers to get some love. It would be a matter of economics. The whole profit sharing scheme the owners cooked up is reliant on the big market teams being successful and drawing money. LA is the second biggest market. It behooves the league to keep the team relevant. So, if the draft is really rigged, I think the Lakers keep their pick this year... maybe even the top pick.
I don't really subscribe to that conspiracy theory though. |
The small market teams likes seeing the Lakers struggle. |
Yeah Cuban himself said that he hopes the lakers fail forever. So I don't if there is any type of rigging going on that it would be for the lakers. We just have to hope come draft time that we are lucky. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| tlim wrote: | Damn, not even a month into the regular season, and it's come to this.
The sad state of affairs in the Lakers org.
Chick and Dr. Buss are rolling in their graves. |
A lot of people knew where this season was going...Some chose to put their head in the sand and think there was a chance this team was going somewhere....to be honest the "experts" probably didn't think this team would be this bad, but they also didn't think this team would have so many injuries as well. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLand247 wrote: | | BigEvil wrote: | Let's assume for a moment the lottery is rigged (don't really want to get into that argument).
If it were rigged, I think it would be time for the Lakers to get some love. It would be a matter of economics. The whole profit sharing scheme the owners cooked up is reliant on the big market teams being successful and drawing money. LA is the second biggest market. It behooves the league to keep the team relevant. So, if the draft is really rigged, I think the Lakers keep their pick this year... maybe even the top pick.
I don't really subscribe to that conspiracy theory though. |
The small market teams likes seeing the Lakers struggle. |
They make more money when the Lakers are successful.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Could anybody please explain also what will happen if the Lakers do not get to use this pick this year? Does it carry over to next year somehow?
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| Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| LakerLand247 wrote: | | BigEvil wrote: | Let's assume for a moment the lottery is rigged (don't really want to get into that argument).
If it were rigged, I think it would be time for the Lakers to get some love. It would be a matter of economics. The whole profit sharing scheme the owners cooked up is reliant on the big market teams being successful and drawing money. LA is the second biggest market. It behooves the league to keep the team relevant. So, if the draft is really rigged, I think the Lakers keep their pick this year... maybe even the top pick.
I don't really subscribe to that conspiracy theory though. |
The small market teams likes seeing the Lakers struggle. |
then jimbo needs to make some stink at the owners meeting
if it's rigged then all the owners must be on it |
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