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Mini Mamba
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I think Thomas Robinson could be a possibility for us as we could use some help at PF as Randle is done for the season and Kelly will be out a while.
He is still young and a former lottery pick and might be worth taking a chance on. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Lakers have been awarded a $4.85 million disabled player exception for Steve Nash |
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| 44TheLogo wrote: | | Purp 32 wrote: | | According to @WindhorstESPN, the Lakers have been awarded a $4.85 million disabled player exception for Steve Nash. http://t.co/UVGqmGcR4b |
So no trade then? |
They still could. Until they sign someone with it a trade is still a possibility.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | kentu_tiro wrote: | | The Lakers will most likely use that to bid on Kirilenko once he's traded and or waived by his new team. |
The Lakers would be to smart to bring in a guy like AK47... and he will also probably would want to play for a contender... we have no chance to get him. |
We still don't have a roster spot to sign anyone.
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Bard207
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| Golden_Emperor_24K wrote: | | LakerLand247 wrote: | | Golden_Emperor_24K wrote: | | we need a backup pg and perhaps another starting/backup sf really bad...Ronnie price and ellington are garbage. AK47 and ray allen would be instant upgrades over Wesley Johnson too. |
So with your plan we'll try to make a push for the playoffs only to finish 10th in the west and miss the playoffs plus loose our draft pick to Phoenix. Lets dig a deeper hole. Great! |
it's still early..if we make a couple of tweaks to the roster and everybody put their acts together we can still make the playoffs. but it's obvious the team doesn't want to win this year. I don't really care if lakers make any more moves, they don't have a winning attitude right now. might as well just tank and get the 2nd worst record behind philly who's tanking harder than we are. |
The current record is 3 - 11.
If it would take a record of 48 - 34 to make the Playoffs, then the record for the remaining 68 games would need to be 45 - 23.
I have doubts that Byron's coaching and Kobe's defense would be conducive to getting a 48 - 34 record even if the FO decided to rob from the future and did some roster tweaks. |
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venturalakersfan
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| oldschool32 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | The Lakers likely will use that exception to match salaries just in case a big trade scenario comes up. |
I don't think it can be combined with anything else. |
Right, if it were to be used it would have to be two deals.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Mini Mamba wrote: | I think Thomas Robinson could be a possibility for us as we could use some help at PF as Randle is done for the season and Kelly will be out a while.
He is still young and a former lottery pick and might be worth taking a chance on. |
We're full of real PF's; Booz, Hill, Ed, & Lilly, I mean Kelly ..
Lakers are soft on SF and e C (as we have mostly PF's playing C) positions....
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Corey Brewer is another option. However, if we trade for Brewer, we would likely win more games. I think he would be a better SF than Wes. |
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Lakerfan 4 Life
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Current Free Agents
POINT GUARDS
Will Bynum (Waive Ronnie Price for him)
Gilbert Arenas (Veteran who knows the Princeton Offense)
Baron Davis (Veteran who knows the Princeton Offense)
Daniel Gibson (Veteran who knows the Princeton Offense)
Toney Douglas
Jonny Flynn
Marquis Teague
Peyton Siva (Waive Ronnie Price for him)
Jamaal Tinsley
Rodrigue Beaubois
Acie Law
Dominique Jones
Sergio Rodriguez
Marcus Williams
Eric Maynor
Aaron Craft (Waive Ronnie Price for him)
Yuki Togashi (Waive Ronnie Price for him)
Mike James
Keyon Dooling
Chris Duhon
Luther Head
Earl Boykins
SHOOTING GUARDS
Ray Allen (Wants to sign with a team in the 2nd half of the season)
Richard Hamilton (Veteran who knows the Princeton Offense)
Delonte West (Waive Ronnie Price for him)
Jordan Crawford (Free Agent in March)
Shannon Brown (Waive Ronnie Price for him)
Ricky Davis
Rashad McCants
MarShon Brooks (Free Agent in March)
Marquis Daniels
Kareem Rush
Rudy Fernandez
Daequan Cook
DeShawn Stevenson
Flip Murray
Julius Hodge
Maurice Ager
Morris Almond
Sasha Vujacic
Josh Childress
James Anderson
Quincy Douby
Orlando Johnson
Mardy Collins
Julius Hodge
Maurice Ager
Elliot Williams
SMALL FOWARDS
Michael Beasley (Free Agent in March)
Metta World Peace (Free Agent in March/ Bring back Metta! He knows the Princeton Offense. His best years offensively was in the Princeton.)
Stephen Jackson
Ronnie Brewer
Josh Howard
Corey Maggette
Al Thorton
Carlos Delfino
Kelenna Azubuike
Darius Miles
Bobby Simmons
Quentin Richardson
Mickael Pietrus
Travis Outlaw
Aleksandar Pavlovic
Terrence Williams (Here's a young lottery pick bust, Jimbo)
Julian Wright
Jarvis Hayes
Maurice Evans
Bill Walker
Andres Nocioni
Jamario Moon
Sonny Weems
Rodney Carney
Dahntey Jones
Antonie Wright
Lazar Hayward
Joey Graham
Christian Eyenga
Renaldo Balkman
POWER FOWARDS
Lamar Odom
Rashard Lewis
Kenyon Martin (Veteran who knows the Princeton Offense. Can still play D.)
Al Harrington
Tyrus Thomas (Interested in signing more lottery pick busts, Jimmy?)
Yi Jianlian (Here's a young lottery pick bust, Jimbo)
Earl Clark (Former Laker who knows a little bit of the Princeton Offense)
Jan Vesely (Here's a young lottery pick bust, Jimbo)
Anthony Randolph (Here's a young lottery pick bust, Jimbo)
Troy Murphy
Linas Kleiza
Craig Smith
Royce White
Ryan Gomes
Hakim Warrick
Shelden Williams (Here's a young lottery pick bust, Jimbo)
Leon Powe
Chris Wilcox
Joe Alexander (Here's a young lottery pick bust, Jimbo)
Sean May (Here's a young lottery pick bust, Jimbo)
Ike Diogu
Melvin Ely
CENTERS
Andrew Bynum (Didn't play a game for Byron and the Cavs. Does know know the Princeton?)
Emeka Okafor (Wants to sign with a team in the 2nd half of the season)
Andray Blatche (Free Agent in March)
Greg Oden
Jermaine O'Neal
Marcus Camby
Andris Biedrins (Still young. Hasn't been the same since early days with Dubs)
Hasheem Thabeet (Here's a young lottery pick bust, Jimbo)
Byron Mullens
Eddy Curry
Kwame Brown
Fab Melo (Should take a chance on him)
Greg Stiemsma
Daniel Orton
Sean Williams
Mouhamed Sene
Patrick O'Bryant
Erick Dampier
Nenad Krstic
DeSagana Diop
Hilton Armstrong
Johan Petro
Robert Swift
Jeremy Tyler |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Lakers have been awarded a $4.85 million disabled player exception for Steve Nash |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | 44TheLogo wrote: | | Purp 32 wrote: | | According to @WindhorstESPN, the Lakers have been awarded a $4.85 million disabled player exception for Steve Nash. http://t.co/UVGqmGcR4b |
So no trade then? |
They still could. Until they sign someone with it a trade is still a possibility. |
Correct. If they trade him, the exception simply expires. Otherwise it expires if we use it, if nash returns to the team, or March 10, whichever comes first.
Btw, in a trade, LA can take back the amount of the exception plus 100k.
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Runway8
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I can't believe that list. Is it really updated? Some of those guys are still playing?
Well, I want to keep the top 5 pick, so lets go with the squatter Robert Swift. It would be awesome headlines if Kobe invited him to stay at his crib for the duration of the season. But at the end of the year, he doesn't leave. |
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Reflexx
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Who would actually come?
Kwame Brown - hands of stone, but great man-man defender
Rashard Lewis - If Dallas take Ray Allen, that may make Lewis open to a job
Yi Jianlian - Was a solid and fast PF. Wasn't a bust, but offered good money in China. Not sure if he'd come, but Kobe is a fan of his... so maybe
Corey Magette - would probably be great with Lin
Metta - just because he'd speak up if Kobe is making bad decisions |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Since we are tanking, I don't think we will use it. Corey Brewer would have been nice.
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A lot of known players on that list that really just slipped away, just forgotten.
Blatche, Linas Kleiza. Fab Melo, Rudy Fernandez .....
Baron Davis still wants to play? |
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eddiejonze
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What do the rules say about this scenario: There is a euro named kristaps porzingis, 6'll, lots of potential, who was going to enter the draft last year and pulled out, is expected to be top 10 in the next draft. Since the Nash exception is about what the rookie scale for 3 years is, is it possible or legal to offer the kid (who is already pro in Europe) that money and he forgo the draft?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| eddiejonze wrote: | | What do the rules say about this scenario: There is a euro named kristaps porzingis, 6'll, lots of potential, who was going to enter the draft last year and pulled out, is expected to be top 10 in the next draft. Since the Nash exception is about what the rookie scale for 3 years is, is it possible or legal to offer the kid (who is already pro in Europe) that money and he forgo the draft? |
Nope, he has to enter the draft.
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| can we just give the 5M to Kobe in exchange for 25% less fga's per game? |
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| If we get a hardship exceptions we should take a flyer on a Miller. Otherwise stand pat unless a young player with potential falls out of graces with his team. |
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| LVLAKERFAN wrote: | | Since we are tanking, I don't think we will use it. Corey Brewer would have been nice. |
I don't think the Lakers are tanking... they just don't have any identity and plus they have no system in place to be successful... the Lakers obviously need to make changes and it would be interesting to see what happens with Nash in the next few weeks. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Will Bynum
Quincy douby
Terrance Williams
Greg oden/andrew bynum
All upgrades over what we have. |
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What about Seth Curry....instead of Price? 
I also said before the season began we should give Bynum or Oden a try.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Lakers have been awarded a $4.85 million disabled player exception for Steve Nash |
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| 44TheLogo wrote: | | Purp 32 wrote: | | According to @WindhorstESPN, the Lakers have been awarded a $4.85 million disabled player exception for Steve Nash. http://t.co/UVGqmGcR4b |
So no trade then? |
They can do both.
The DPE and Nash's contract are considered two separate assets. The Lakers could get one player for the DPE and another player for Nash's contract if they chose to do such. |
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Am I misinformed or are these exceptions pretty worthless? it seems like anyone that is available would be willing to sign for the minimum. Who out there is still waiting for a $5million offer?  |
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Lakerfan 4 Life
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Treble Clef wrote: | | Am I misinformed or are these exceptions pretty worthless? it seems like anyone that is available would be willing to sign for the minimum. Who out there is still waiting for a $5million offer? |
You can trade it too. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | They can do both.
The DPE and Nash's contract are considered two separate assets. The Lakers could get one player for the DPE and another player for Nash's contract if they chose to do such. |
Let's see if the FO makes the Lakers somewhat relevant with a few more assets added.... |
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| Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | | Treble Clef wrote: | | Am I misinformed or are these exceptions pretty worthless? it seems like anyone that is available would be willing to sign for the minimum. Who out there is still waiting for a $5million offer? |
You can trade it too. |
For a mid 20's 1st round pick would be nice.....if only....  |
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