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Kobe2Clark Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: Kobe and Boozer prefer slower tempo. Pretty much everyone else wants to play fast. What to do? |
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I feel that is the reason for the stagnant offense at times. How can Byron balance this out? _________________ "My thirst for domination is fed only by the game. I refuse to get distracted by outside forces." - Kobe Bryant |
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Karmaloop Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Kobe and Boozer prefer slower tempo. Pretty much everyone else wants to play fast. What to do? |
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Kobe2Clark wrote: | I feel that is the reason for the stagnant offense at times. How can Byron balance this out? |
We're the worst team in terms of 3 point shooting, we're over 10 points below 30%. Let that sink in for a second. Playing a half-court set isn't going to create open looks. Teams are just going to sag, and let the Lakers work for their points. Jeremy Lin (and Wayne Ellington to a lesser extent) are the only guys who are legitimate threats to drain three balls in order to create spacing. Also, look at the make up of our team. We're made more of athletes than basketball players, so put them to use. There are younger legs, and the old methodical way of scoring isn't going to work. |
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Kobe2Clark Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I don't disagree with you but our 2 best scorers don't like to run lol. Something has to give _________________ "My thirst for domination is fed only by the game. I refuse to get distracted by outside forces." - Kobe Bryant |
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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Play fast.
When you have less overall talent you stand the best chance by making a olay before the defense sets up. |
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Voices Star Player
Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 8287 Location: Oxnard, Ca.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe and Boozer no longer have speed.
Also where did you hear Kobe and Boozer don't want to run. _________________ .....
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ALTHOUGH HE STANDS 6 FEET 2 INCHES, JIM BUSS ATTENDED JOCKEY SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS 20. |
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Kobe2Clark Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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I watch them play _________________ "My thirst for domination is fed only by the game. I refuse to get distracted by outside forces." - Kobe Bryant |
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Don Draper Retired Number
Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 28422 Location: LA --> Bay Area
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Our rotations just have no balance. It stems from Boozer/Hill, IMO. Lin can't play off of them because they don't move well and can't set screens and their hands are made of stone. With their issues, Kobe has to do more, and Wes is forced to try to do offense and we all know how that turns out. Davis needs to start, or Kelly when he gets back. |
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JaySole Sixth Man
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Voices wrote: | Kobe and Boozer no longer have speed.
Also where did you hear Kobe and Boozer don't want to run. |
No need to. You answered your own question. Lol
Both are |
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Pink Spider Starting Rotation
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 135 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Reflexx wrote: | Play fast.
When you have less overall talent you stand the best chance by making a olay before the defense sets up. |
Hey great idea! Maybe we should fire Byron and hire D'Antoni. I hear he was pretty famous for his 7 seconds or less offense in Phoenix!
Oh wait... _________________ Where's yo curleh mustache at? |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Are we really still attempting to fix something that isn't broken? When a mechanic wants to build a 10 second car they don't put a 3.5 cylinder engine under the hood. This team is doing exactly what it was built to do and nothing more. |
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nevitt_smrek Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Try to build a lead with the young, athletic lineups. Then as the game gradually reaches the latter stages of the 2nd half, when the pace typically slows, play the vets more? _________________ Smrek 2, Nevitt 1, Barkley 0 |
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fiendishoc Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 8488 Location: The (real) short corner
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Rest Kobe more. Rest Boozer a LOT more. |
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LakerLand247 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares what the senior citizens think. In the immortal words of MDA... RUN RUN RUN. |
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Honeybadger81 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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JaySole wrote: | Voices wrote: | Kobe and Boozer no longer have speed.
Also where did you hear Kobe and Boozer don't want to run. |
No need to. You answered your own question. Lol
Both are |
Duncan, Manu, Park, are old too, the spurs play fast because pop realized that playing easy and fast tempo offensive basketball make their old legs easier than banging in the stagnant half set defensive basketball...
that was how Spurs evolved, from a defensive team to an offensive team...
Byron does not have the vision and IQ to think through it. |
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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Pink Spider wrote: | Reflexx wrote: | Play fast.
When you have less overall talent you stand the best chance by making a olay before the defense sets up. |
Hey great idea! Maybe we should fire Byron and hire D'Antoni. I hear he was pretty famous for his 7 seconds or less offense in Phoenix!
Oh wait... |
This roster would be great with D'antoni. I wonder id he would be interested in a Lakers job. LoL |
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madddogg Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Kobe and Boozer prefer slower tempo. Pretty much everyone else wants to play fast. What to do? |
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Karmaloop wrote: | Kobe2Clark wrote: | I feel that is the reason for the stagnant offense at times. How can Byron balance this out? |
We're the worst team in terms of 3 point shooting, we're over 10 points below 30%. Let that sink in for a second. Playing a half-court set isn't going to create open looks. Teams are just going to sag, and let the Lakers work for their points. Jeremy Lin (and Wayne Ellington to a lesser extent) are the only guys who are legitimate threats to drain three balls in order to create spacing. Also, look at the make up of our team. We're made more of athletes than basketball players, so put them to use. There are younger legs, and the old methodical way of scoring isn't going to work. |
This is the truth, half court slow basketball can only work if we can take advantage of mis-matches which is tough because of our roster. We need to run and hustle to have a fighters chance to win games. |
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Theseus Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:02 am Post subject: |
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If they could play fast they may want to |
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Vin Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Team has to run at every opportunity especially when Lin is in. |
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DShotMaker1824 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:39 am Post subject: |
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The team has to play faster in the half-court sets. An uptempo game helps old knees.
[See San Antonio Spurs] _________________
"Through the legs to the left, through the legs to the right, we don't run them Laker plays, we just Kobe fadeaway..."
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HyperX Sixth Man
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:32 am Post subject: |
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Buy a fountain of youth for them. |
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Boybees Star Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:46 am Post subject: |
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You do whatever you need to do to keep the tank grinding forward. _________________ Jerry Buss made the Lakers into the crown jewel of the NBA. |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
Joined: 24 Oct 2001 Posts: 47565
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Kobe and Boozer prefer slower tempo. Pretty much everyone else wants to play fast. What to do? |
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Kobe2Clark wrote: | I feel that is the reason for the stagnant offense at times. How can Byron balance this out? |
By actually coaching? _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Everyone else except the coach... |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 11:45 am Post subject: |
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PICKnPOP wrote: | Are we really still attempting to fix something that isn't broken? When a mechanic wants to build a 10 second car they don't put a 3.5 cylinder engine under the hood. This team is doing exactly what it was built to do and nothing more. |
All you have to do is add NOS.... |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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slow the game down for the old men, by all means... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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