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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject: Are Wiggins and Exum busts?
Both have hugely underperformed considering all the hype they received. I think Embiid will be a bust too, but I bet T-Wolves fans are wishing they'd picked him instead.
Too bad we didn't get to see Randle have a better season than Exum and possibly Wiggins. That would have been satisfying. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
You speak with certainty after 15 games.......a rookie in the NBA typically takes 2-3 years to develop. After 3 years, if the player is still a non-factor you can say with certainty they are a bust.
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 6:23 pm Post subject:
lakersken80 wrote:
You speak with certainty after 15 games.......a rookie in the NBA typically takes 2-3 years to develop. After 3 years, if the player is still a non-factor you can say with certainty they are a bust.
Guys like LeBron/Durant/Rose were instant impact players. Wiggins doesn't seem like he'll be on their level at this rate. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
You speak with certainty after 15 games.......a rookie in the NBA typically takes 2-3 years to develop. After 3 years, if the player is still a non-factor you can say with certainty they are a bust.
Guys like LeBron/Durant/Rose were instant impact players. Wiggins doesn't seem like he'll be on their level at this rate.
Those are superstar type players. Those players don't come up often. I think your expectations are too high if you expect Exum or Wiggins to be like them.
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:20 pm Post subject:
lakersken80 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
You speak with certainty after 15 games.......a rookie in the NBA typically takes 2-3 years to develop. After 3 years, if the player is still a non-factor you can say with certainty they are a bust.
Guys like LeBron/Durant/Rose were instant impact players. Wiggins doesn't seem like he'll be on their level at this rate.
Those are superstar type players. Those players don't come up often. I think your expectations are too high if you expect Exum or Wiggins to be like them.
What was with all the Wiggins hype then? What's his ceiling? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Depends how the team is run, OKC basically gave Durant the green light to brick his way to another lottery pick, Minnesota due to the coach and gm being the same guy are trying to win. Lebron? brick brick brick, Rose? brick brick brick (although his speed got him a bunch of easy layups), is he as offensively talented as those guys? not really, but he's not really being given the chance to learn to be anything but a roleplayer, neither is Jabari, who does have the offensive talent and whose team really should be letting him brick his way to another lottery pick. _________________ I believe everything the media tells me except for anything for which I have direct personal knowledge, which they always get wrong
You speak with certainty after 15 games.......a rookie in the NBA typically takes 2-3 years to develop. After 3 years, if the player is still a non-factor you can say with certainty they are a bust.
Guys like LeBron/Durant/Rose were instant impact players. Wiggins doesn't seem like he'll be on their level at this rate.
Those are superstar type players. Those players don't come up often. I think your expectations are too high if you expect Exum or Wiggins to be like them.
Wiggins has so much hype going for him that rivals Durant and Rose.
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:02 am Post subject:
It's too early to call any player a bust.
That being said ... Wiggins was taken #1. And I did not agree with the hype surrounding him, although it came closer to the realm of realistic after his up-and-down collegiate year.
But to play along, I think both have a chance to be solid players with lots of hard work and good breaks. I don't see either one being so talented or dominant to be #1 option/face of the franchise type players. _________________ We back.
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:55 am Post subject:
mhan00 wrote:
No, they were both projects. Most of this year's rookie crop were.
True, but Parker was the one guy who was supposedly NBA-ready, and yet he hasn't impressed much either. I agree with most here that it's too early to call anyone a bust at this point, and not to sound like a myopic homer, but I think Randle was looking the best out of the bunch before his injury. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
Took a few years for Anthony Davis to come out of his shell. I expect the same for Wiggins.
Davis was 14/8 right out of the gates in limited minutes. In year 2 with full starter minutes 21/10 and 3 blocks.
The vast majority of star level plays will make their major jump based on minutes with only an extraordinary few that do so later (Nash is an example but even he was a 15/7 type guy with full starter minutes).
Wiggins will have to make a massive jump in year 2.
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