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LakerLand247
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| autoprt wrote: | | lakers got booed tonight. i expect more booing in the future. |
I expect rotten veggies thrown in the future. |
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Juneway
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| Raydiation wrote: | When Lin was in HOU. I can understand starting PB as I think it is a fit issue. Harden no D so PBev need to cover for Harden and he is very active on D and he shot good 3. I can agree PB fit better with Harden so I think it was a fit issue. And McHale was playing Lin 30+ min usually.
This benching of Jeremy for Price is just total disrespect. and all of a sudden he is playing under 20 mins
Lin didn't do anything bad enough and Price didn't outplay Lin or anything to start. When Lin played well in BOS everybody wonder why Lin only played 19 mins. It is quite obvious BS is stubborn enough and made up his mind already from the BOS game.... I agree that somebody posted saying if Jeremy scored 20+ points last game then BS can't justify his move. that's why he has to limit Lin's min. |
Price 50% from the arch tonight. That's good. |
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27
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| anyone still worried about the tank? |
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13th Man
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| Hurrican wrote: | | allyoop wrote: | Lin mailed it in tonight. He played slow, he made half hearted attempts to attack. He also played some horrible defense and left his man many times.
Not suprising given the situation. |
You were watching the game right? He had an off night shooting again but he played solid D. He was giving good help D, rotating when needed, and covering his man well. He was covering both Holiday and Mekel. He stayed in front of Holiday when he was driving to the rim and held Mekel to 1/5 shooting. |
Lin had a couple of nice drives to the basket, just couldn't convert. Also missed 2 FTs so his mechanics was definitely off. |
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tonman
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| Nightwalker wrote: | | tonman wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | I wouldn't mind if Kobe retired now there's nothing left for him to prove this team suck ass he should hang up the sneakers. This Laker team is an embarrassment and a joke Kobe deserves much better. |
so retire instead of trying to play team ball.... |
It does not matter if Kobe plays team ball they will still suck no matter what he does that's how bad they are. This is a black hole Kobe in his prime would have trouble dragging this team to playoffs. |
no you don't get it. you establish a culture regardless if you are winning or losing. if that culture is to play unselfish and as a team, then you can go out and get guys to come in an compete in the same manner. |
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Dwight+Harden
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| tbytc2012 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | tbytc2012 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | tbytc2012 wrote: | | sigman wrote: | | Jonathan1212 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | Lin out & Price in. Lin with just under 20min. |
what does it matter?
lin is a low to average pg in the league. and with byron scott as your coach pretty much everyone is going to suck. no nba player can look good playing with absolutely no system. no rhythm. no flow. no sense.
all this attention on lin. byron scott doesn't seem to know how to coach offense, defense, transition, anything... i'm done. |
I would say Lin is a solid average but backup PG but not low. when your asset is PnR and fast breaks and no one comes up to help you set a screen what the hell are you supposed to do.
Lin should try to create his own shot if he wants to follow through on modelling himself after Ginobli and add it to his arsenal. |
Last game was the first time i saw aggressive Lin this year, and he got benched for the whole 4 quarter. Our coach decided that Price is better.
What can I say? |
Running Dantoni offense will always get you benched. |
I don't even think it is Dantoni.
It is just running in transition, not jogging like other 4 lakers did.
I have no idea Why even Wes is jogging. |
Lin attacked when the defense wasnt set. Thats dantoni offense. He should of jogged down with the other players. |
That's called nowadays Nba offense, not Dantoni offense.
I think we are the only team that don't push EVERY TIME, and wait for people jogging to front court. |
My knicks run the same offense, long 2s= worst start in franchise history |
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Nightwalker
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| LakerLand247 wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | tonman wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | I wouldn't mind if Kobe retired now there's nothing left for him to prove this team suck ass he should hang up the sneakers. This Laker team is an embarrassment and a joke Kobe deserves much better. |
so retire instead of trying to play team ball.... |
It does not matter if Kobe plays team ball they will still suck no matter what he does that's how bad they are. This is a black hole Kobe in his prime would have trouble dragging this team to playoffs. |
The way Kobe is playing, he's relapse back to #8 Kobe. Change that jersey back to #8 Kobe! |
I miss frobe my favorite version of Kobe. |
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Charisma
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| Jrue Holiday: "We knew who they were going to, obviously Kobe, so we just loaded up. He wants to get his team back into it." |
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LakerLand247
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| 27 wrote: | | anyone still worried about the tank? |
Not worried about the tank. I'm worried about getting the top 5 pick. |
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autoprt
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| Charisma wrote: | | Jrue Holiday: "We knew who they were going to, obviously Kobe, so we just loaded up. He wants to get his team back into it." |
he's just saying what everyone else in the league game planning is thinking and doing. |
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tonman
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| Fruscas wrote: | | Oh, Rondo f*cked around and got a triple double |
did he shoot better than 6-18? |
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Nash Vegas
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| Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | This team is UNWATCHABLE! |
Sorry but took 21 games with a team with only 5 wins to finally realize this?
I was already wearing my TANK helmet after they started 1-7.
Funny watching the crowds at Staples, it's like their in denial when the Lakers eventually lose. Are they actually thinking we're gonna win make the 8th seed this year?
Delusion is a dangerous thing.
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LakerLand247
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Nightwalker wrote: | | LakerLand247 wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | tonman wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | I wouldn't mind if Kobe retired now there's nothing left for him to prove this team suck ass he should hang up the sneakers. This Laker team is an embarrassment and a joke Kobe deserves much better. |
so retire instead of trying to play team ball.... |
It does not matter if Kobe plays team ball they will still suck no matter what he does that's how bad they are. This is a black hole Kobe in his prime would have trouble dragging this team to playoffs. |
The way Kobe is playing, he's relapse back to #8 Kobe. Change that jersey back to #8 Kobe! |
I miss frobe my favorite version of Kobe. |
Haha. Bring back Frobe! |
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tbytc2012
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| Dwight+Harden wrote: | | tbytc2012 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | tbytc2012 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | tbytc2012 wrote: | | sigman wrote: | | Jonathan1212 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | Lin out & Price in. Lin with just under 20min. |
what does it matter?
lin is a low to average pg in the league. and with byron scott as your coach pretty much everyone is going to suck. no nba player can look good playing with absolutely no system. no rhythm. no flow. no sense.
all this attention on lin. byron scott doesn't seem to know how to coach offense, defense, transition, anything... i'm done. |
I would say Lin is a solid average but backup PG but not low. when your asset is PnR and fast breaks and no one comes up to help you set a screen what the hell are you supposed to do.
Lin should try to create his own shot if he wants to follow through on modelling himself after Ginobli and add it to his arsenal. |
Last game was the first time i saw aggressive Lin this year, and he got benched for the whole 4 quarter. Our coach decided that Price is better.
What can I say? |
Running Dantoni offense will always get you benched. |
I don't even think it is Dantoni.
It is just running in transition, not jogging like other 4 lakers did.
I have no idea Why even Wes is jogging. |
Lin attacked when the defense wasnt set. Thats dantoni offense. He should of jogged down with the other players. |
That's called nowadays Nba offense, not Dantoni offense.
I think we are the only team that don't push EVERY TIME, and wait for people jogging to front court. |
My knicks run the same offense, long 2s= worst start in franchise history |
I don't now. i watched only 2,3 knicks games this year. To me they still have much faster pace/ and will push the ball sometimes, maybe i am wrong. |
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KeepItRealOrElse
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| Dwight+Harden wrote: | | tbytc2012 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | tbytc2012 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | tbytc2012 wrote: | | sigman wrote: | | Jonathan1212 wrote: | | sammysung wrote: | | Lin out & Price in. Lin with just under 20min. |
what does it matter?
lin is a low to average pg in the league. and with byron scott as your coach pretty much everyone is going to suck. no nba player can look good playing with absolutely no system. no rhythm. no flow. no sense.
all this attention on lin. byron scott doesn't seem to know how to coach offense, defense, transition, anything... i'm done. |
I would say Lin is a solid average but backup PG but not low. when your asset is PnR and fast breaks and no one comes up to help you set a screen what the hell are you supposed to do.
Lin should try to create his own shot if he wants to follow through on modelling himself after Ginobli and add it to his arsenal. |
Last game was the first time i saw aggressive Lin this year, and he got benched for the whole 4 quarter. Our coach decided that Price is better.
What can I say? |
Running Dantoni offense will always get you benched. |
I don't even think it is Dantoni.
It is just running in transition, not jogging like other 4 lakers did.
I have no idea Why even Wes is jogging. |
Lin attacked when the defense wasnt set. Thats dantoni offense. He should of jogged down with the other players. |
That's called nowadays Nba offense, not Dantoni offense.
I think we are the only team that don't push EVERY TIME, and wait for people jogging to front court. |
My knicks run the same offense, long 2s= worst start in franchise history |
so you only have that user-name to troll |
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LakerLand247
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | | Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | This team is UNWATCHABLE! |
Sorry but took 21 games with a team with only 5 wins to finally realize this?
I was already wearing my TANK helmet after they started 1-7.
Funny watching the crowds at Staples, it's like their in denial when the Lakers eventually lose. Are they actually thinking we're gonna win make the 8th seed this year?
Delusion is a dangerous thing. |
Those fans at Staple center still think the Lakers are playoff bound. |
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autoprt
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| Nash Vegas wrote: | | Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | This team is UNWATCHABLE! |
Sorry but took 21 games with a team with only 5 wins to finally realize this?
I was already wearing my TANK helmet after they started 1-7.
Funny watching the crowds at Staples, it's like their in denial when the Lakers eventually lose. Are they actually thinking we're gonna win make the 8th seed this year?
Delusion is a dangerous thing. |
i think it was a result of bs's initial press conference when he said the lakers are all about winning championships...period. he was pretty convincing. |
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Juneway
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| songunsw wrote: | | LakerLand247 wrote: | | swoosh-it wrote: | | LakerLand247 wrote: | | We Want Clarkson! |
I know! At least let the poor guy get some experience. Price is not right! |
We seriously need to develop him. The Price is Wrong and we want to see Clarkson. |
The problem is not PG, is Kobe. can you guys notice it? too many ISOs. |
at this stage of his career. I thought that he knew that. But I am wrong.
I love to see him on court for another few years, but not in this way. |
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autoprt
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| how long before they start clarkson, ellington, davis, kobe and sacre? |
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tbytc2012
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| autoprt wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | | Harlemlakerfan wrote: | | This team is UNWATCHABLE! |
Sorry but took 21 games with a team with only 5 wins to finally realize this?
I was already wearing my TANK helmet after they started 1-7.
Funny watching the crowds at Staples, it's like their in denial when the Lakers eventually lose. Are they actually thinking we're gonna win make the 8th seed this year?
Delusion is a dangerous thing. |
i think it was a result of bs's initial press conference when he said the lakers are all about winning championships...period. he was pretty convincing. |
I seriously think he was just bsing.
I don't think he is that stupid to think we can even make it to playoffs in the wild west. |
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LegionOfDoom
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Hurrican wrote: | | allyoop wrote: | Lin mailed it in tonight. He played slow, he made half hearted attempts to attack. He also played some horrible defense and left his man many times.
Not suprising given the situation. |
You were watching the game right? He had an off night shooting again but he played solid D. He was giving good help D, rotating when needed, and covering his man well. He was covering both Holiday and Mekel. He stayed in front of Holiday when he was driving to the rim and held Mekel to 1/5 shooting. |
"I don't care about this help offense talk. When you left your man to cover someone else's man, that's called leaving your man. Leaving your man = horrible defense. This is the Lakers, man. We got championship culture going on. We look at things differently from the rest of the league. You might not understand. It's smash-mouth forward thinking." |
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Juneway
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| autoprt wrote: | | how long before they start clarkson, ellington, davis, kobe and sacre? |
BS said he will reevaluate the team every 5 games. So maybe next weekend? |
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Nightwalker
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| Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| tonman wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | tonman wrote: | | Nightwalker wrote: | | I wouldn't mind if Kobe retired now there's nothing left for him to prove this team suck ass he should hang up the sneakers. This Laker team is an embarrassment and a joke Kobe deserves much better. |
so retire instead of trying to play team ball.... |
It does not matter if Kobe plays team ball they will still suck no matter what he does that's how bad they are. This is a black hole Kobe in his prime would have trouble dragging this team to playoffs. |
no you don't get it. you establish a culture regardless if you are winning or losing. if that culture is to play unselfish and as a team, then you can go out and get guys to come in an compete in the same manner. |
Lol this logic is flawed. Newsflish who does Kobe to pass to that can knockdown shots at a good rate. Now if Kobe had average to good cast around him I would question his motives shooting too much not trusting his teammates enough, but that is not the case here. Please stop blaming Kobe for this current mess he is on of few good players on this team. |
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| at the end it is all about coaching. it does not matter how you rearrange the line up, they still are going to play with the same attitude. there is no PNRs, no game plans. the game looks the same even with a change of the lineup. BS is responsible for all of these losses. i don't think the players are responding to him. just sad... |
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HumanVictoryCigar
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| they keep calling this new grouping of players "young". Really, which guy? Price, Kobe? Jordan Hill and Wes Johnson have been around. Ed Davis has a couple of years under his belt. Same with the 2nd unit, none of them qualify as "young" anymore. They've all got a couple of years experience. |
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