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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:26 am    Post subject:

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Could it be possible North Korea is being framed?

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I was thinking of this the other day. The Federal Agency was quick to point out that N. Korea was behind. Regardless of whether or not it was them, it's in the best interest of everyone to make it out as them. How bad would it be if they announced that it was just some anon hackers that scared the movie theaters into pulling a movie?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:56 am    Post subject:

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Could it be possible North Korea is being framed?

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I was thinking of this the other day. The Federal Agency was quick to point out that N. Korea was behind. Regardless of whether or not it was them, it's in the best interest of everyone to make it out as them. How bad would it be if they announced that it was just some anon hackers that scared the movie theaters into pulling a movie?


Actually, they weren't quick to blame them. Many just suspected them.

The blame didn't come until recently after gathering data.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:08 am    Post subject:

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Grammer wrote:
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Could it be possible North Korea is being framed?

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I was thinking of this the other day. The Federal Agency was quick to point out that N. Korea was behind. Regardless of whether or not it was them, it's in the best interest of everyone to make it out as them. How bad would it be if they announced that it was just some anon hackers that scared the movie theaters into pulling a movie?


Actually, they weren't quick to blame them. Many just suspected them.

The blame didn't come until recently after gathering data.


Have you seen the Data or heard any North Koreans claim responsibility?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:08 am    Post subject:

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Grammer wrote:
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Could it be possible North Korea is being framed?

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I was thinking of this the other day. The Federal Agency was quick to point out that N. Korea was behind. Regardless of whether or not it was them, it's in the best interest of everyone to make it out as them. How bad would it be if they announced that it was just some anon hackers that scared the movie theaters into pulling a movie?


Actually, they weren't quick to blame them. Many just suspected them.

The blame didn't come until recently after gathering data.


Yeah, I heard a good point yesterday, that if this were people who wanted to use the information for personal gain, they would have sold off all the SSN and personal data they hacked instead of just releasing it. They wanted to make Sony hurt, that's it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:05 pm    Post subject:

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Reflexx wrote:
Grammer wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
Could it be possible North Korea is being framed?

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I was thinking of this the other day. The Federal Agency was quick to point out that N. Korea was behind. Regardless of whether or not it was them, it's in the best interest of everyone to make it out as them. How bad would it be if they announced that it was just some anon hackers that scared the movie theaters into pulling a movie?


Actually, they weren't quick to blame them. Many just suspected them.

The blame didn't come until recently after gathering data.


Have you seen the Data or heard any North Koreans claim responsibility?


Nope. Just pointing out that the Feds didn't declare it was N. Korea early on. Instead they are only feeling comfortable enough to say it recently.

Actually, the last I heard is that the hack itself isn't from N. Korea. It's from a Chinese group that N. Korea contracted.

Not sure how they got that info. Obviously they know more than any of us.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:12 pm    Post subject:

Ok, this is getting ridiculous.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/18/paramount-cancels-team-america_n_6349752.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:16 pm    Post subject:

Reflexx wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
Reflexx wrote:
Grammer wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
Could it be possible North Korea is being framed?

Paging Dennis Rodman


I was thinking of this the other day. The Federal Agency was quick to point out that N. Korea was behind. Regardless of whether or not it was them, it's in the best interest of everyone to make it out as them. How bad would it be if they announced that it was just some anon hackers that scared the movie theaters into pulling a movie?


Actually, they weren't quick to blame them. Many just suspected them.

The blame didn't come until recently after gathering data.


Have you seen the Data or heard any North Koreans claim responsibility?


Nope. Just pointing out that the Feds didn't declare it was N. Korea early on. Instead they are only feeling comfortable enough to say it recently.

Actually, the last I heard is that the hack itself isn't from N. Korea. It's from a Chinese group that N. Korea contracted.

Not sure how they got that info. Obviously they know more than any of us.


What I was saying about the announcement coming early is that shortly after the big name movie theaters had pulled the movie, Sony decides to cancel the release as well and then the reports about N. Korea came in shortly after that. How convenient for all of that to happen. Yes the emails were hacked nearly a month ago and they could have been doing their investigation since then, but it seems very fishy that they'd make the announcement around the time when things started to get out of hand.

As for the Chinese group contracted by N. Korea, it goes along with the conspiracy theory that's been concocted in my head
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:17 pm    Post subject:

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Ok, this is getting ridiculous.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/18/paramount-cancels-team-america_n_6349752.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592


Wow. Wussiness is contagious.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:27 pm    Post subject:

N. Korea was blamed for hacking into S. Korean computers in 2013 in what was dubbed the Dark Seoul attack.

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The Dark Seoul attack wasn't the first time South Korea has pointed fingers north. (And won't be the last.) Others aren't so sure. Some blame China. Others, like security software maker Symantec, blame the mysterious “Dark Seoul Gang,” which Symantec reports is a well-organized group of 10 to 50 hackers—though of course that tells us nothing about who they are, where they are, or what their motivations are. Is it North Korea? Is it Anonymous? Are they the same?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:36 pm    Post subject:

It is interesting how there are news reports that US officials are already considering cyber attacks against North Korea and that the hack itself, not the threats, are a national security concern...

I don't see how hacking a Japanese entertainment company is a national security risk to the great ol USA? I can agree that the threats are of serious concern.

They are thinking it is NK WITH HELP FROM IRAN.. How convenient...

Do we need to test/audition our CyberAssault Forces?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:09 pm    Post subject:

Who knew North Korea had such good programmers/hackers. Perhaps, they hired mercenary hackers from around the world to help accomplish this.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:40 pm    Post subject:

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Who knew North Korea had such good programmers/hackers. Perhaps, they hired mercenary hackers from around the world to help accomplish this.


Given that some passwords at Sony were in a folder called "passwords", I don't think this was exactly like breaking into CIA databases.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject:

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Who knew North Korea had such good programmers/hackers. Perhaps, they hired mercenary hackers from around the world to help accomplish this.


Given that some passwords at Sony were in a folder called "passwords", I don't think this was exactly like breaking into CIA databases.


And gamers must love having their info tied to the Playstation Network. lol
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject:

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It is interesting how there are news reports that US officials are already considering cyber attacks against North Korea and that the hack itself, not the threats, are a national security concern...

I don't see how hacking a Japanese entertainment company is a national security risk to the great ol USA? I can agree that the threats are of serious concern.


They are thinking it is NK WITH HELP FROM IRAN.. How convenient...

Do we need to test/audition our CyberAssault Forces?


Sony Pictures was formerly called Columbia Pictures, has been a US owned company for most of its entire life, until Sony bought it in the late 80's, early 1990's. I think the US government is interested in this because it exposes vulnerabilities in computer systems, not only at the corporate level but also on the government level. If an government with very little access to modern technology can pull off a hack, whats to stop better equipped nations from doing something similar? And it has been done if you look at all the corporate espionage taking place from Russia and China.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:27 pm    Post subject:

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Who knew North Korea had such good programmers/hackers. Perhaps, they hired mercenary hackers from around the world to help accomplish this.


Given that some passwords at Sony were in a folder called "passwords", I don't think this was exactly like breaking into CIA databases.


Wow, that's pathetic. I've worked at much smaller companies, and they would kill you if you did something as stupid as that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:35 pm    Post subject:

North Korea is gonna get it now....
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/sony-hack/u-s-considering-proportional-response-sony-hack-white-house-says-n271081

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:56 pm    Post subject:

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Who knew North Korea had such good programmers/hackers. Perhaps, they hired mercenary hackers from around the world to help accomplish this.


Given that some passwords at Sony were in a folder called "passwords", I don't think this was exactly like breaking into CIA databases.


Supposedly also stored as plain text and unencrypted. Smh.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:16 am    Post subject:

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leor_77 wrote:
Who knew North Korea had such good programmers/hackers. Perhaps, they hired mercenary hackers from around the world to help accomplish this.


Given that some passwords at Sony were in a folder called "passwords", I don't think this was exactly like breaking into CIA databases.


And gamers must love having their info tied to the Playstation Network. lol


I pulled my CC info from my PSN account months ago.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:26 am    Post subject:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/19/7421373/sony-hackers-wont-release-more-data-because-the-interview-cancelled

Wish anonymous would find a way to acquire the movie and release it for everybody to see...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject:

Not gonna lie, I'm dying to see this movie right now. Heard a lot of people say it was funny, and I love Seth Rogan movies. I haven't been to a movie theater in years (I use Netflix and in-demand), but I would go for this.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:33 am    Post subject:

FBI Officially blames North Korea.

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U.S. officials also tell CNN the hackers routed the attack through servers in countries from Asia, Europe and Latin America, even some in the U.S.
The hackers used common DNS masking techniques to make it look like it was coming from those places, but the National Security Agency and FBI were able to track it back to North Korea.


so...they used a VPN?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:41 am    Post subject:

What we should do is force their computers to stream the movie on all government computers...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:53 am    Post subject:

So if it is actually North Korea would the US issue war against them???
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:04 am    Post subject:

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So if it is actually North Korea would the US issue war against them???


It is interesting indeed

They threatened 9/11 style attacks against movie-goers and theaters?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:22 am    Post subject:

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What we should do is force their computers to stream the movie on all government computers...


Haha. That would be great.
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