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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at the tweets from Woj...Maybe Nash for Lance could be an option
Nash/Lin/Hill could all be attractive parts at the deadline that could net us back a nice player like Vonleh or such _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Rawr Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hill has absolutely maxed his potential right now. I would love if it he were traded. _________________ You are either in or on your way to the NBA Finals. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting that teams are asking for a 1st from Charlotte to take Lance. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Interesting that teams are asking for a 1st from Charlotte to take Lance. |
guess what we would get for J hill |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Rawr wrote: | Hill has absolutely maxed his potential right now. I would love if it he were traded. |
Exactly. Putting up good numbers on a bad team. To his credit he's improved and its a great chance to get an asset. Unfortunalt have to wait until January 2015. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Interesting that teams are asking for a 1st from Charlotte to take Lance. |
guess what we would get for J hill |
But he can't be traded until January. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Interesting that teams are asking for a 1st from Charlotte to take Lance. |
guess what we would get for J hill |
But he can't be traded until January. |
i know just saying. if we get Lance for Lin then we are good.
we still would have J Hill + Nash's corpse to trade for. if we can get an asset back like Woj said 1st from Bobcats, we are set |
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Dave20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I would pass on Lance, he's not the same player without the great Paul George covering for him. He'll help us win a couple of extra games but we won't have a chance at keeping the top 5 pick. Hill should only be traded for a pick in return or with an expiring contract.
I'm all about the top 5 pick at this point, I don't want any players that are going to make us better this year. |
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Laker Lover Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ridding Jhill puts Lakers in tank mode and if Lakers can get a high 1st rounder for him while being so bad the Lakers keep their top 5 pick, it would be a huge plus going forward this summer.
Randle, top 5 pick, another 1st rounder plus enough cap space to sign a couple star players to go with Kobe and Lakers are back in business next season. |
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Sting Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Jordan Hill to thunder for Kendrick Perkins(expiring), Perry Jones, and their 1st. we get maybe a starting SF atleast Jones would be a solid bench player another asset in first. Jordan Hill and Steven Adams would make a good combo at the center position for the thunder. perry jones don't play much since he is behind durant. hell i would trade hill for lamb and perkins too if they didn't want to do that deal |
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pooh108159 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Once again i said it before hill and wes for t ross, a first and also mayhave to take hansborough or fields contract |
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pooh108159 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Shabazz Muhammad looking like he may develop as well into player. |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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pooh108159 wrote: | Once again i said it before hill and wes for t ross, a first and also mayhave to take hansborough or fields contract |
whats the incentive from raptors to do that trade? |
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pooh108159 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | pooh108159 wrote: | Once again i said it before hill and wes for t ross, a first and also mayhave to take hansborough or fields contract |
whats the incentive from raptors to do that trade? |
they get a pf who can give them 13 and 10 and is only 27 yrs old. big men hold more value than wing players. also jordan salary is a very good contract |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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pooh108159 wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | pooh108159 wrote: | Once again i said it before hill and wes for t ross, a first and also mayhave to take hansborough or fields contract |
whats the incentive from raptors to do that trade? |
they get a pf who can give them 13 and 10 and is only 27 yrs old. big men hold more value than wing players. also jordan salary is a very good contract |
in that process they lose a good role player and a 1st? |
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pooh108159 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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they get a starter and lose what a 20-25th pick. lol hill rebs and scores at a high %. |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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pooh108159 wrote: | they get a starter and lose what a 20-25th pick. lol hill rebs and scores at a high %. |
prefer something better then ross + 20-25th pick. right now looks like 25-28pick
i want a project like Dennis Schroder |
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pooh108159 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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nah to schroeder i d rather see what clarkson can do and take my chances on a free agent pg. i like dragic who is a good combo guard. |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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pooh108159 wrote: | nah to schroeder i d rather see what clarkson can do and take my chances on a free agent pg. i like dragic who is a good combo guard. |
dragic is a good combo guard?
Schroder is like 10 times better then Clarkson |
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pooh108159 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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scrhoeder maybe a new darren collison and no he is not 10x better than clarkson dragic is good and once again the deal is about ross who is better than schroeder |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | We passed on Stephenson for Hill in the offseason, I am not sure what has happened to make the FO change their mind now. |
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 3m3 minutes ago
So far, Charlotte's been unwilling to attach a first-round pick to unload Stephenson. That could've kick-started conversation with Pacers. |
I like that. J hill for Lance/1st/biyombo
would lakers do it? |
How about Nash for Lance and a 1st? And at this point, the Lakers would almost be strictly doing it for just the 1st and a vague hope of rehabilitating Lance, who is proving to be a cancer. Lance's third year is a team option, right? |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | We passed on Stephenson for Hill in the offseason, I am not sure what has happened to make the FO change their mind now. |
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 3m3 minutes ago
So far, Charlotte's been unwilling to attach a first-round pick to unload Stephenson. That could've kick-started conversation with Pacers. |
I like that. J hill for Lance/1st/biyombo
would lakers do it? |
Give them Lin and the give us Lance and a 2nd. |
i thought about it but they have Kemba and also brians is a v decent backup.
i prefer lin in that trade but no idea why charlottle does it
if we do this trade this means we are out of top 5
also if we do keep that pick we will have only around 13mil left on cap |
We are already out of the top five, and it seriously doubt we lose more than the HORRIBLE teams at the bottom. If anything, Getting Lance makes us lose more. He's been insanely awful this year, and rumblings have started about him in the locker room. |
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pooh108159 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Lance was a 4th option player on the pacers who got a 3yr 27million deal |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:44 am Post subject: |
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pooh108159 wrote: | Shabazz Muhammad looking like he may develop as well into player. |
He's one handed. Teams keep letting him go to his left hand. Once he's been scouted they'll sit on that side and see if he has anything else. Wolves suck too much for anyone to take seriously right now. |
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Four Decade Bandwagon Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:16 am Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | We passed on Stephenson for Hill in the offseason, I am not sure what has happened to make the FO change their mind now. |
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 3m3 minutes ago
So far, Charlotte's been unwilling to attach a first-round pick to unload Stephenson. That could've kick-started conversation with Pacers. |
I like that. J hill for Lance/1st/biyombo
would lakers do it? |
How about Nash for Lance and a 1st? And at this point, the Lakers would almost be strictly doing it for just the 1st and a vague hope of rehabilitating Lance, who is proving to be a cancer. Lance's third year is a team option, right? |
If the Lakers are interested I much prefer a Nash for Lance trade.
Especially if the Lakers can get a draft pick from Charlotte. Be thrilled with the 1st but even a Charlotte early 2nd has value. Probably no higher than 40th?
Certainly some risk with Lance being a knucklehead. And a loss of cap space with Nash's expiring contract. So much depends on if the Lakers can use the Nash contract on a better option before the trade deadline or in free agency next summer.
Lance would add some talent if he could get his head straight and play nice with Kobe. Imagine the trash talking in practice!
I continue to be surprised so many advocate moving Hill. IMO he is playing well this year and would make the perfect "first big man of the bench" if the Lakers are able to lure a free agent center or get the lottery ball to pick in the top 5. Hill can also play some PF mins as Randle adjusts and Boozer moves on next year. |
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