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PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:54 pm    Post subject:

Stanley Johnson had a big game vs Colorado 22 points




I think at this point we know what kind of player Stanley Johnson will be at the next level. The only thing he's really going to be able to add to his game is making his jump shot consistent and getting up to NBA speed.

He has all the makings of a defensive role player like Artest was and that is pretty much what I'd consider his ceiling.



LeVert has the higher upside and can constantly keep improving as a player as can see in his advancement in play even over the past few years.

In a perfect world we'd pick up Stanley Johnson and Caris LeVert in the same draft.

Though if the world was 'perfect' the Lakers would get the first pick, draft Okafor, send him tot he 76ers for their pick and Joel Embiid, and THEN draft Stanley Johnson and Caris Levert
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:39 am    Post subject:

This notion that Levert can come close to be a franchise player is just bonkers...hes not even starter material and hes already 22.

MikeLg, while i dont love stanley johnson,hes clearly the better prospect between the two, kids going to be a really solid starter and great defensive player. Take a look at old Artest or Jimmy butler. Stan can easily reach that level.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:07 am    Post subject:

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Stanley Johnson had a big game vs Colorado 22 points




I think at this point we know what kind of player Stanley Johnson will be at the next level. The only thing he's really going to be able to add to his game is making his jump shot consistent and getting up to NBA speed.

He has all the makings of a defensive role player like Artest was and that is pretty much what I'd consider his ceiling.



LeVert has the higher upside and can constantly keep improving as a player as can see in his advancement in play even over the past few years.

In a perfect world we'd pick up Stanley Johnson and Caris LeVert in the same draft.

Though if the world was 'perfect' the Lakers would get the first pick, draft Okafor, send him tot he 76ers for their pick and Joel Embiid, and THEN draft Stanley Johnson and Caris Levert


Stanley Johnson is only 18 years old. It's true that he has a pretty complete game for someone his age but I don't think he's done growing as a player. I see artest as a cieling as well but not role player Ron. 20 ppg Ron. I just think stanley can do it more efficiently.

I would consider this draft a success if we needed up with Okafor or stanley Johnson.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:07 am    Post subject:

I'd be happy with Winslow as well
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:35 pm    Post subject:

Caris LeVert out for season with foot injury

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Tough news for Caris LeVert, out for 12 weeks w/foot injury. Ends his season,but should recover in time for pre-draft workouts if he chooses


Feel terrible for him

Silver lining is that he may for sure fall to the Lakers with the Houston pick now. But I wish him a speedy recovery!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:46 pm    Post subject:

He will definately be available for that houston pick now! Michigans season is officially over though
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject:



That foot is a huge concern. Ugh, there's so much talent there.

I'm not even concerned about the "passive mentality." I don't even think he realizes he has an advantage on a defender.

Once he does realize it, he'll attack all the way to the hoop.

But everything else, the height, length, passing, perimeter shooting, lateral quickness, youth, work ethic, all there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:17 pm    Post subject:

is it the 2nd time he's broke his foot or something?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:23 pm    Post subject:

UOFM fan here...I watch them faithfully like I do with the Lakers. Levert need to return for a senior season. Improved each season, but his basketball IQ is lacking very much. He's coachable, and put in tons of work each off season. He;s gonna work his butt off, but he seems to take plays off, and shows a lot of disengagement at times. Maybe I'm knit picking too much. The talent is there however
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:00 pm    Post subject:

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He will definately be available for that houston pick now! Michigans season is officially over though


If he's around he may be worth a look.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:22 pm    Post subject:

If LeVert is around he's definitely the guy you take with the pick imo.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:45 pm    Post subject:

Fruscas wrote:
This notion that Levert can come close to be a franchise player is just bonkers...hes not even starter material and hes already 22.

MikeLg, while i dont love stanley johnson,hes clearly the better prospect between the two, kids going to be a really solid starter and great defensive player. Take a look at old Artest or Jimmy butler. Stan can easily reach that level.


Artest and Jimmy Butler ... with the lottery pick?

How do you define better prospect? I thought Rajon Rondo was definitively a top 10 pick because of his wingspan, hands, passing, ball-handling, defense, speed, and quickness.

He slipped to the 20s. Guess who got the steal.

He slipped because he couldn't shoot? Please.

Levert's primary weakness is strength. I don't think he's a #1 option, but a stud #2 or #3 down the line.

But if you're asking me about Stanley Johnson's shot creating ability, I don't think much of it. He has to bulldoze to get to the line, and he's not as dynamic a playmaker or ball-handler, period.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:12 pm    Post subject:

You could legitimately land them both.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:20 pm    Post subject:

A young Artest clone wouldnt be a bad thing at all. Better then a Al Jefferson clone being taking with the 1st overall pick.

I agree on Levert though he should fall into the 20's but once again some team out their will pick him early just to prevent others from taking him later in the draft. Prob Boston.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:00 am    Post subject:

Some time last year, I think, there was an article in the LA Times about Stanley Johnson.

To me, it made him sound like a Lebron-lite.

Watching him on some of the highlight videos, to me, he seems more like a very poor man's Lebron more so than a Ron Artest clone.

It seems like Stanley can handle the ball better than Artest could (although I never saw Ron Artest play in his prime, only as a Laker)

Of course he has a lot of improving to do, but does anyone who has seen Stanley Johnson play see any Lebron-lite in him?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:30 pm    Post subject:

Lakerpark wrote:
Some time last year, I think, there was an article in the LA Times about Stanley Johnson.

To me, it made him sound like a Lebron-lite.

Watching him on some of the highlight videos, to me, he seems more like a very poor man's Lebron more so than a Ron Artest clone.

It seems like Stanley can handle the ball better than Artest could (although I never saw Ron Artest play in his prime, only as a Laker)

Of course he has a lot of improving to do, but does anyone who has seen Stanley Johnson play see any Lebron-lite in him?


Ron Artest was playing point forward for the Chicago Bulls after his rookie year.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:44 pm    Post subject:

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To me, it made him sound like a Lebron-lite.


Understand, that LeBron started looking like Kobe by age 15. Ball-handling, explosive, 3-point range, then add the passing.

By 16, he was already 6'6" 210, Kobe Bryant's size.

I wouldn't dare say Stanley Johnson is "LeBron lite". There's no one even close in this draft.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:51 pm    Post subject:

When lebron-lite comes along, you'll know. It will be visibly obvious as hell

Julius Randle is more lebron than Stanley. Yea I said its
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:41 am    Post subject:

Michigan man/fan here...Levert is an improved good college player. Comparing him to Johnson is laughable. Johnson is only a freshman and more developed and NBA ready than Levert. Levert is a poor man's Eddie Jones. Do you really wanna put up with a softer version of a soft player we once had? Do ya really?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject:

LakeShowSince84 wrote:
Michigan man/fan here...Levert is an improved good college player. Comparing him to Johnson is laughable. Johnson is only a freshman and more developed and NBA ready than Levert. Levert is a poor man's Eddie Jones. Do you really wanna put up with a softer version of a soft player we once had? Do ya really?


Disagree.

Break it down to individual skills.

Ball handling
Passing
Shot creating
Perimeter shooting
Playmaking

That's all Levert.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:16 pm    Post subject:

I like Levert here, especially at 25. Would have to take Stanley with a top 5 pick, don't like that.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:17 am    Post subject:

Tony Anapolis wrote:
I like Levert here, especially at 25. Would have to take Stanley with a top 5 pick, don't like that.
Stanley is a SF, Levert is a SG. Levert seems to me to be a scoring guard off the bench. I think we can do better with the Rockets pick.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:52 am    Post subject:

Dave20 wrote:
Tony Anapolis wrote:
I like Levert here, especially at 25. Would have to take Stanley with a top 5 pick, don't like that.
Stanley is a SF, Levert is a SG. Levert seems to me to be a scoring guard off the bench. I think we can do better with the Rockets pick.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:59 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Tony Anapolis wrote:
I like Levert here, especially at 25. Would have to take Stanley with a top 5 pick, don't like that.
Stanley is a SF, Levert is a SG. Levert seems to me to be a scoring guard off the bench. I think we can do better with the Rockets pick.


With?
Amida Brimah ,Wayne Seldon, and Timothe Luwawu .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:41 am    Post subject:

Dave20 wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Dave20 wrote:
Tony Anapolis wrote:
I like Levert here, especially at 25. Would have to take Stanley with a top 5 pick, don't like that.
Stanley is a SF, Levert is a SG. Levert seems to me to be a scoring guard off the bench. I think we can do better with the Rockets pick.


With?
Amida Brimah ,Wayne Seldon, and Timothe Luwawu .


Strongly disagree with each player for the Houston pick.
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