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Jeggs
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 Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:32 pm Post subject: We must keep Jordan Hill after this season unless Lebron /Durant is available. |
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I don't understand why people here want to trade a guy that has been playing at an all star level. Jordan Hill has opened up another dimension of his game by being a much better offensive player this season.
And he has done it pretty consistently this season. You don't trade solid players.
Kobe, hill, and randle is a pretty decent core moving forward. And with Lin and Nash coming off the books this season we should be able to grab a great SF, and a good point guard...along with better bench players.
You don't trade hill unless Durant or Lebron is involved in that deal. |
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K28
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| As long as we have to depend on an inconsistent loafer like Hill to show up and produce, this team is going nowhere. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'd trade Jordan Hill for any team's 1st round pick. And we if we can't trade him I'd decline to pick up the option.
Good player, but the wrong guys to pay given our team's construction |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Jordan Hill's option needs to be picked up BEFORE free agency starts. So if you pick him up, chop $9m off the cap space right away. So you go down from $27m to $18m available. So no, it's not a no brainer to keep him via player option.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| He's been good this season, but he has hardly been consistent. And he's nowhere close to being an all star. |
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Big Game James
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: We must keep Jordan Hill after this season unless Lebron /Durant is available. |
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| Jeggs wrote: | | I don't understand why people here want to trade a guy that has been playing at an all star level... |
I stopped reading here.
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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We should hope he plays well so it piques the interest of other teams.
Only problem is his trade veto.
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K28
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sure if the team we're trading him to agrees to pick up his second year, he'll waive his NTC.
He'd be decent depth on a contender...although he is paid like a starter, which is simply is not. |
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| kray28_ wrote: | | I'm sure if the team we're trading him to agrees to pick up his second year, he'll waive his NTC. |
That is the hope. Or if there's a winning team that he wouldn't mind joining.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: We must keep Jordan Hill after this season unless Lebron /Durant is available. |
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| Big Game James wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | I don't understand why people here want to trade a guy that has been playing at an all star level... |
I stopped reading here.
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67ShelbyGT
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Man we sure do overvalue our talent in LG. Putting up stats on a crappy team usually not a good indicator for success with contender.
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I don't think he's good enough to start on a good team. He can be the 1st big off the bench though.
With that being said, I'd rather have Ed Davis off the bench for half the price of Hill next year and locked up for a few years, than have to overpay Hill to not play defense.
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| 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | Man we sure do overvalue our talent in LG. Putting up stats on a crappy team usually not a good indicator for success with contender. |
Yup. To be fair, he's improved, but All-Star? Not even close.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| He ain't worth 9 million a year. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| This might be up there with "Javaris Crittenton is untouchable" |
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| JoJo Dancer wrote: | | This might be up there with "Javaris Crittenton is untouchable" |
Or Von Wafer being the next Ray Allen |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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So are you going to start a thread like this every week? Couldn't you have just bumped your last one?
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Apparently averaging 12/8 while playing no defense is considered "All-Star level" now. |
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OregonLakerGuy
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: We must keep Jordan Hill after this season unless Lebron /Durant is available. |
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| lakeshow83 wrote: | | Big Game James wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | I don't understand why people here want to trade a guy that has been playing at an all star level... |
I stopped reading here.
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youcantguardme
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: We must keep Jordan Hill after this season unless Lebron /Durant is available. |
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| Jeggs wrote: | I don't understand why people here want to trade a guy that has been playing at an all star level. Jordan Hill has opened up another dimension of his game by being a much better offensive player this season.
And he has done it pretty consistently this season. You don't trade solid players.
Kobe, hill, and randle is a pretty decent core moving forward. And with Lin and Nash coming off the books this season we should be able to grab a great SF, and a good point guard...along with better bench players.
You don't trade hill unless Durant or Lebron is involved in that deal. |
You must be on drugs. However, I wish that you were the GM of another team and we could unload Hill on you in return for an actual all star. Hill has been OK, but he is a role player with little hope of developing into more. I do like the guy, but don't overvalue him. |
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youcantguardme
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| 4OnTheFloor wrote: | | JoJo Dancer wrote: | | This might be up there with "Javaris Crittenton is untouchable" |
Or Von Wafer being the next Ray Allen |
or Mike Penberthy as the next Steve Kerr. |
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K28
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: We must keep Jordan Hill after this season unless Lebron /Durant is available. |
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| youcantguardme wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | I don't understand why people here want to trade a guy that has been playing at an all star level. Jordan Hill has opened up another dimension of his game by being a much better offensive player this season.
And he has done it pretty consistently this season. You don't trade solid players.
Kobe, hill, and randle is a pretty decent core moving forward. And with Lin and Nash coming off the books this season we should be able to grab a great SF, and a good point guard...along with better bench players.
You don't trade hill unless Durant or Lebron is involved in that deal. |
You must be on drugs. However, I wish that you were the GM of another team and we could unload Hill on you in return for an actual all star. Hill has been OK, but he is a role player with little hope of developing into more. I do like the guy, but don't overvalue him. |
I'll be totally honest with you ...he's a girlfriend choking domestic abuser....I don't like him. |
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LakeShow06
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: We must keep Jordan Hill after this season unless Lebron /Durant is available. |
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| OregonLakerGuy wrote: | | lakeshow83 wrote: | | Big Game James wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | I don't understand why people here want to trade a guy that has been playing at an all star level... |
I stopped reading here.
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Diddo |
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I'm wondering too....because its VERY much 'ditto'......just sayin
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LakeShow06
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Spoolxx wrote: | | Apparently averaging 12/8 while playing no defense is considered "All-Star level" now. |
The agenda on this board that Hill plays no defense really irritates me. Why don't you re-watch the last Spurs game for example and how he repeatedly denied Duncan or forced him into bad shots to the point where JVG in particular was giving him props for his defense. Duncan scored mainly on others.
man this crap annoys me
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LakeShow06
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hill has NOT been playing like an all-star.
BUT, he has been playing very well. He has also added an extra dimension to his game and the team with his mid-range jump shooting. I'm a fan of Hill's and I'd like him to stay, however, if we could get a good PG by trading him (because he does have legit value) I'd be 'ok' with that - even though we would be very short-handed upfront.
People on this board bagging Hill are simply looking for a scapegoat. Period. People bringing up allegations about choking his gf need to keep out of his private life. Should we still be calling Kobe a rapist based on that sort of thinking about 'allegations'???
seriously....
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