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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Lakers#1Team wrote: | If the Lakers have no plans for Hibbert next year they should give Black more of his minutes. The logjam is more at power forward. Bass can rotate at backing up both positions. Tarik should be given most of the center minutes. |
I used to blame Byron but I understand the logic. Bass is playing great. Nance and Randle need the majority of mins. Hibbert can be let go but I think the problem is we need to keep Roy in the mix in case we have no other C option in FA.
Personally, I agree to a buy out with Roy if he wants it. Maybe a team like the Spurs or Cavs would go out and sign him. Then, I'd start Black and rotate Bass and Nance at C.
Personally, my gut tells me Black is going to get a good offer and we're going to let him walk. I hope I'm wrong. I think he's a fantastic bench big in the NBA.
Whiteside/Black
Randle/Nance/Bass
Very competent bigs rotation. |
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Fruscas Star Player
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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god bless him |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:53 am Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | Lakers#1Team wrote: | If the Lakers have no plans for Hibbert next year they should give Black more of his minutes. The logjam is more at power forward. Bass can rotate at backing up both positions. Tarik should be given most of the center minutes. |
I used to blame Byron but I understand the logic. Bass is playing great. Nance and Randle need the majority of mins. Hibbert can be let go but I think the problem is we need to keep Roy in the mix in case we have no other C option in FA.
Personally, I agree to a buy out with Roy if he wants it. Maybe a team like the Spurs or Cavs would go out and sign him. Then, I'd start Black and rotate Bass and Nance at C.
Personally, my gut tells me Black is going to get a good offer and we're going to let him walk. I hope I'm wrong. I think he's a fantastic bench big in the NBA.
Whiteside/Black
Randle/Nance/Bass
Very competent bigs rotation. |
I may be wrong, but the Spurs and Cavs are not going to sign him. The Cavs let Varajao walk, who is already filling in nicely for the injured Ezeli. The Spurs have Boban Marjanovic, and he'd be starting on a handful of teams.
I don't have any issue with Hibbert as a person, but his mobility issues make it 4 on 5 out there. Black, IMO, is the much better player at this point.
There is zero logic for playing Hibbert over Black. It's all on Byron. He deserves to play. |
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Dilla_ Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Bass is doubtful for today's game which means Black finally might get some game time. _________________ Coach MWP. |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dilla_ wrote: | Bass is doubtful for today's game which means Black finally might get some game time. |
He's going to Ryan Kelly him. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Mindripper2000 wrote: | Dilla_ wrote: | Bass is doubtful for today's game which means Black finally might get some game time. |
He's going to Ryan Kelly him. |
Tonight (hopefully) Coach Scott will ...... #FreeTarik |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Mindripper2000 wrote: | Dilla_ wrote: | Bass is doubtful for today's game which means Black finally might get some game time. |
He's going to Ryan Kelly him. |
Tonight (hopefully) Coach Scott will ...... #FreeTarik |
I honestly expect Sacre to steal his minutes.
Black will get 6 minutes... in the third... when Kelly is in foul trouble.
Then if Black plays well, Byron will credit it to his coaching.
Prove me wrong Byron! |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Nice game Tarik, love seeing that P&R. Ease up on the fouls and he should be getting 20 mpg. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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He has no business losing any minutes to Hibbert. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Mindripper2000 wrote: | He has no business losing any minutes to Hibbert. |
I like that they are different. Tarik is P&R, scoring inside. Roy can step out and hit the jumper. And it is hard to complain when Bass gets minutes, dude is the ultimate professional and plays his ass off. Good situation to have, in my opinion. Tarik is a RFA, Roy is likely gone and possibly Bass as well. I would love having Black, Ibeh and Sacre as the center rotation next season. With Black and Ibeh getting the most minutes, and Sacre being the emergency guy. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Shaber Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Mindripper2000 wrote: | pio2u wrote: | Mindripper2000 wrote: | Dilla_ wrote: | Bass is doubtful for today's game which means Black finally might get some game time. |
He's going to Ryan Kelly him. |
Tonight (hopefully) Coach Scott will ...... #FreeTarik |
I honestly expect Sacre to steal his minutes.
Black will get 6 minutes... in the third... when Kelly is in foul trouble.
Then if Black plays well, Byron will credit it to his coaching.
Prove me wrong Byron! |
You should stop advising Byron. _________________ .
Lakers depth chart
PG Johnson / Goodrich
SG Bryant / West / Scott
SF Baylor / Worthy / Cooper
PF Mikkelsen / Hairston / McAdoo / Gasol
C Chamberlain / Abdul-Jabbar / O'Neal / Mikan |
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Shaber Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Black still seems like the best C we have.
Black/Sacre/Hibbert.
I would stop playing Bass at C, although he is for sure the best player of these four.
All in all - what a poor rotation of C-s the Lakers have _________________ .
Lakers depth chart
PG Johnson / Goodrich
SG Bryant / West / Scott
SF Baylor / Worthy / Cooper
PF Mikkelsen / Hairston / McAdoo / Gasol
C Chamberlain / Abdul-Jabbar / O'Neal / Mikan |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:31 am Post subject: |
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All Black needs to really do at this point is work on his ready hands. |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:41 am Post subject: |
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s_habe wrote: | Black still seems like the best C we have.
Black/Sacre/Hibbert.
I would stop playing Bass at C, although he is for sure the best player of these four.
All in all - what a poor rotation of C-s the Lakers have |
I think Black is better than Bass at the C position, but Bass has been playing out of position the whole season. The only difference is playing time. Byron doesn't allow Black to get his reps in so he's going to be more out of sync. He DNPs him for 5 games and then plays him one whole quarter the next. Byron doesn't understand that progression is predicated on rhythm and continuity.
He'll be really good for another team who gives him playing time (see Ed Davis in Portland). |
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Dr. Funkbot Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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2019 wrote: | Lakers#1Team wrote: | If the Lakers have no plans for Hibbert next year they should give Black more of his minutes. The logjam is more at power forward. Bass can rotate at backing up both positions. Tarik should be given most of the center minutes. |
I used to blame Byron but I understand the logic. Bass is playing great. Nance and Randle need the majority of mins. Hibbert can be let go but I think the problem is we need to keep Roy in the mix in case we have no other C option in FA.
Personally, I agree to a buy out with Roy if he wants it. Maybe a team like the Spurs or Cavs would go out and sign him. Then, I'd start Black and rotate Bass and Nance at C.
Personally, my gut tells me Black is going to get a good offer and we're going to let him walk. I hope I'm wrong. I think he's a fantastic bench big in the NBA.
Whiteside/Black
Randle/Nance/Bass
Very competent bigs rotation. |
Big Roy is in the last year of his contract, no buy out needed. Just let him walk, or sign for the vet minimum! _________________ R.I.P. Doc Buss |
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Fruscas Star Player
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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sacre eating his minutes ahahah.
Sacre played 22 minutes, R.Kelly 20 yesterday |
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bonkers Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina 56m56 minutes ago
Tarik Black on if Lakers want to keep him: "They lumped me in as one of the young guys......" By association, that could be a good thing |
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PartyMan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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bonkers wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina 56m56 minutes ago
Tarik Black on if Lakers want to keep him: "They lumped me in as one of the young guys......" By association, that could be a good thing |
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I hope so.. he's a good backup C. Gary Lance is a good backup PF. Hopefully the other 3 prove they are studs. _________________ We pour this booze and we drink this booze because we think it's yummy. YUMMY! So over the tounge and down the throat to party in our tummys.
DOWN THE HOLA BITC*OLA!!! |
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tox Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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I've been down on Tarik a bit, but man that block was sweeeeeeeet |
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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PartyMan wrote: | bonkers wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina 56m56 minutes ago
Tarik Black on if Lakers want to keep him: "They lumped me in as one of the young guys......" By association, that could be a good thing |
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I hope so.. he's a good backup C. Gary Lance is a good backup PF. Hopefully the other 3 prove they are studs. |
Gary Nance? When did we sign him? _________________ RIP Kobe |
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PartyMan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Number 7 wrote: | PartyMan wrote: | bonkers wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina 56m56 minutes ago
Tarik Black on if Lakers want to keep him: "They lumped me in as one of the young guys......" By association, that could be a good thing |
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I hope so.. he's a good backup C. Gary Lance is a good backup PF. Hopefully the other 3 prove they are studs. |
Gary Nance? When did we sign him? |
Gary Lance has been a running joke around here... _________________ We pour this booze and we drink this booze because we think it's yummy. YUMMY! So over the tounge and down the throat to party in our tummys.
DOWN THE HOLA BITC*OLA!!! |
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Number 7 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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PartyMan wrote: | Number 7 wrote: | PartyMan wrote: | bonkers wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina 56m56 minutes ago
Tarik Black on if Lakers want to keep him: "They lumped me in as one of the young guys......" By association, that could be a good thing |
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I hope so.. he's a good backup C. Gary Lance is a good backup PF. Hopefully the other 3 prove they are studs. |
Gary Nance? When did we sign him? |
Gary Lance has been a running joke around here... |
Apologies, didn't realize that. _________________ RIP Kobe |
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PartyMan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Number 7 wrote: | PartyMan wrote: | Number 7 wrote: | PartyMan wrote: | bonkers wrote: | Quote: | Mark Medina @MarkG_Medina 56m56 minutes ago
Tarik Black on if Lakers want to keep him: "They lumped me in as one of the young guys......" By association, that could be a good thing |
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I hope so.. he's a good backup C. Gary Lance is a good backup PF. Hopefully the other 3 prove they are studs. |
Gary Nance? When did we sign him? |
Gary Lance has been a running joke around here... |
Apologies, didn't realize that. |
No problemo, I think Stu Lantz said it one time but I can't comfirm that's where it came from _________________ We pour this booze and we drink this booze because we think it's yummy. YUMMY! So over the tounge and down the throat to party in our tummys.
DOWN THE HOLA BITC*OLA!!! |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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That savage, game-changing block on Hood earned him a trip right to the bench.
This is how a coach so blatantly controls the outcome of games. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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I would be happy with Biyombo, Black and Sacre next season. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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