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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:54 pm    Post subject: GRIZZLIES -at- LAKERS - 1-2-15 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

Foul Play… With Phantom of the Opera music playing, a masked Ed Davis stepped to the line down by 2 with 2.8 seconds left. Kobe had attacked the paint, drew the defense and set him up to get clobbered by two Grizzlies in the head on a layup attempt. Ed made the first, missed the second. He scored 20 points against his former team, but that freethrow miss with the game on the line cost them. The Lakers fell 109-106.

With Kobe playing near triple-double ball again, Jeremy Lin leading the bench with 20 points and Zach Randolph sitting out, the Lakers had a chance to take the W.

They pushed the lead to as many has 12 points in the first half with runs of 11-0 and 9-0 in each of the first two quarters.

“I think our third quarter was a turning point,” Kobe said. The grizzlies had several mini runs in the quarter with no return punch from the Lakers. L.A. would lose the quarter 33-25.

The Laker bigmen struggled with foul trouble, Hill and Davis having to sit with four each in the third quarter. Boozer and Hill later fouling out midway into the fourth quarter.

“We put them on the line way too much,” Kobe said. The Grizzlies shot 31 FTs, the Lakers 19. They should have put the Grizzlies on the line sooner in the final 24 seconds.

After Kobe hit the three with 24.6 left to trail by 1, the Lakers under Scott’s direction let the clock tick down to 11 seconds before Kobe ran out in frustration and took a foul on Memphis. Scott would later defend his decision, but that was a coaching choke, for sure. Pressure the ball, trap, then take a foul if you want to run clock. Don’t just run clock to run it when you have to take a foul.

Little things will kill you in close games.


Kobe -- -- Near triple-double ball again, this time with only 2 turnovers (and one of those went right through Boozer’s hands). Again, a very methodical pace offensively, orchestrating the offense and looking for teammates. The team is a lot tougher to beat when the ball moves…but also when Kobe hits the boards. The more our guards can help on the glass, the better. Down the stretch, Kobe had his legs, sinking a big three with 24.6 seconds left. He later attacked the paint and dumped it to Ed who was fouled with 2.8 seconds. Kobe may have tried to finish on that in the past, which wouldn’t have been a bad idea either with Ed there to clean up if he missed. “In that situation with Marc out of position, the defense behind him that’s more times than not a three-point play,” Kobe said (a lot would have been sweet, too). Good to see him trust his guys at the end of the game. In any event, they were competitive down the stretch and didn’t go into a myopic iso ball game. Just one FT for Kobe in this game (he should have had more, some poor no calls and I’m surprised Kobe didn’t pick up a tech). Defensively, he could sag off Allen when he was out there. That may help Kobe get the higher rebounding numbers, but you saw Kobe in the mix in a crowd a few times. I wouldn’t mind seeing another Kobe/Gasol duo in the Laker uniform with Marc. The Stats: He scored 15 points on 6-14 shooting (2-4 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 9 boards, 8 assists, 1 block, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 33 minutes. The Action: He set up Davis for FTs in the paint. He hit Wes for a layup on a Magic-like bullet feed from the perimeter. He came up short on the top-of-the-key jumper. He hit Hill in the paint for the floater. He’ll get the turnover but Boozer let the pass got right between his hands. Hit hit Young for the And-1 jumper coming off the screen. Busted play, shotclock low so he sank the wing jumper over his man. No-look bounce pass to Davis who was fouled for FTs under the hoop. He missed a long sideline jumper. He took his man deep into the paint and hit the short turnaround. He hit Kelly on the screen-roll for the layup. He had 4 points on 2-4 shooting, 4 rebounds and 5 assists at the half. Second Half: He threw an outlet away. He missed a pull-up from the wing. He sank a sideline three off the split play next time down. He swished a long wing jumper off the pinch post next time down. He got undercut badly on a three, missed and snapped at the ref for the no call (seemed obvious). Short on a long jumper. He no-looked a pass off an offensive board to Boozer for the And-1 score in the paint. Hacked in the lane with no call and he was irate. He spun to lose his man and powered in the And-1 layup over Prince, he made the FT. Bullet feed to Nick on the sideline for a three. He attacked the paint, drew the D and dumped it to Davis for the layup. He missed an elbow pull-up jumper off a busted play out of a timeout to tie the game. He drilled a three with his man on him to cut it to 1 with 24 seconds left. He grabbed a FT miss with 11 seconds left down 2. He attacked and fed Ed who was hammered on the layup or dunk with 2.8 left. Wow, he nearly knocked down a three with 0.6 left in the game to tie it, just a hair too long.

Hill -- -- He mentioned that Scott wants them to roll more to the hoop now. (Yes, please.) Hill probably robbed Kobe of three or so assists in this game missing some open ones, which is why the coach wants you to roll more. Teams are going to trap Kobe off the Hill screens and let Hill shoot those long jumpers, so he needs to be more dynamic, collapsing the D with the roll or moving the ball quickly (he did a good job passing today). He and Boozer both fouled out in this game. “I had a few offensive fouls that hurt,” Hill said, saying they were probably too aggressive. The Stats: He scored 3 points on 1-5 shooting (1-2 from the line) to go with 8 boards (2 offensive), 4 assists, 1 block, 3 turnovers and 6 fouls in 20 minutes. He was a +4. The Action: He lost the handle or missed badly trying to power a shot up in the post on our first possession. He was picked from behind on an offensive board. He missed an open elbow jumper setup by Kobe. He hit the floater off the two-man game from Kobe. He missed another open jumper set up by Kobe. Nice backdoor feed to Ellington off the split play for a score (he threaded the needle perfectly on that one). He kicked out the Kobe double-team pass to Wes for the sideline three. Just 2 points on 1-4 shooting and 4 boards in the half. Second Half: He short-armed an easy floater off a nice play to start the half. He then picked up his fourth foul on the other end. He bullied his way to FTs against Prince in the post, he made one. Weak offensive foul on the glass and he then drew a tech as he fouled out.

Davis -- -- Yes, he could have tied the game on a FT. “I didn’t close it out when I had a chance to send this game to overtime,” Ed said, mentioning he would hit the gym tomorrow and work on the FTs. He scored a series of hoops in the final minutes to help get the Lakers that chance. Just a great game from him. Had he not suffered from foul trouble and had a couple more minutes on the court, that could have been the difference. He was aggressive and imposing his game in the paint, leading the Lakers with a +14, next best was a +5 by Kobe. Just a huge difference when we had him on the court and when we didn’t. He had a flurry of scores to start the game, but was effective anytime he got the ball on his way to his 20-point game. Ed said he took a few Advils prior to the game for his nose. “It will probably be hurting me later on.” The Stats: He scored 20 points on 7-9 shooting (6-8 from the line) to go with 8 boards, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 blocks, 1 turnover and 4 fouls in 28 minutes. He was a +14. The Action: He worked a two-man game on the baseline and powered in a layup. He drew a whistle when Kobe found him in the paint, he made a couple line drives FTs. He scored an And-1 off the Price interior feed, he missed the FT. Sensational D in transition to reject Allen’s sure layup out of bounds. He missed a tip in attempt. Great work off ball to take an offensive board away from his man and then put in the And-1, he made the FT. Bad pass but Allen somehow choked a couple layups and was blocked on two others in about five seconds, so we didn’t pay a price. He drew FTs off the no-look bounce pass from Kobe, he made both. He was blocked or airballed a short jumper in the lane. He had 11 points on 3-5 shooting to go with 7 boards and 2 blocks. Second Half: He hit a lefty jumphook over Prince (more please). Kobe attacked and set him up for a layup to cut it to 4. Wes found him trailing the action in a botched transition sequence and he scored a layup next time down to cut it to 2. He grabbed a sloppy pass under the hoop and put in a layup with just over a minute left. He was clobbered in the head with 2.8 seconds left down 2, good thing he had the mask on (they reviewed for a flagrant, but didn’t get it), he went to the line with Phantom of the Opera music, made the first, missed the second.

Johnson -- -- He didn’t quite have the same wide open looks he’s been getting. Less doubling of Kobe, but Wes still was solid offensively from the perimeter. Some nice passes to Davis late in the game, too. Defensively, he was okay. It will go unnoticed, but he gave up a big score to Prince with under a minute left with a sloppy closeout to allow Prince to get in the paint for an easy one. The Stats: He scored 9 points on 4-8 shooting (1-4 from three) to go with 2 boards, 2 assists, 1 steal and no fouls in 27 minutes. He was a +1. The Action: He hit Davis on the two-man game for a score. He scored a layup off a bullet feed from Kobe. He missed a sideline kickout from Kobe. He missed a sideline jumper off the Kobe feed. He hit a turnaround over Conley in the post. He swished a sideline three as the ball worked off the Kobe double team to him. He missed a long three off a Kobe kickout, not a great look. He had 7 points on 3-6 shooting. Second Half: He drained a wide open sideline jumper (toe on the three line). He missed a sideline three. He fumbled a pass into the backcourt, turnover, layup the other way (then nearly fumbled another one away). He whipped a pass to Davis in the paint for a layup in a chaotic transition sequence. He got head faked on the three line and gave up a score in the paint to Prince with under a minute left.

Price -- -- The wide open looks weren’t there for him and Wes in this one. He had a couple of nice defensive plays and one led to a dunk, but that was it. Kobe played the PG spot offensively. Lin got the close as Price was ineffective and Lin was lighting it up. Our PGs have been trading off games lately. Price bumped heads with Gasol, who was bleeding quickly…that will probably hurt tomorrow for Ronnie. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-4 shooting (0-2 from three) to go with 2 assists, 2 steals, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 20 minutes. He was a -5. The Action: He missed a wing three on a kickout from Kobe. He took the Kobe kickout, attacked and hit Davis for the And-1. Transition turnover and he fouled trying to get it back. He couldn’t get a layup to crawl in. Second Half: He swiped a pass in the backcourt. Not close on an open wing three. He went to the floor missing a steal, got up and a few seconds later, swiped the cross over and took it for a dunk. Dumb double team to give up an open three to Conley, can’t do that.

Young -- -- He had a brief flurry in the fourth where he hit a three, then stole the ball and took it for a score. That had Staples going. Good battle by the Lakers that quarter trying to overcome the hole they had dug…just couldn’t get over the hump. We saw some of the split play being run with Kobe in the high post and Lin/Swaggy running the splits. I’d like to see them explore this quite a bit more. It will get smoother with repetition, but that becomes a tricky cover for the D. The Stats: He scored 14 points on 5-10 shooting (1-3 from three, 3-4 from the line) to go with 1 board, 2 assists, 1 steal, 1 block and 2 fouls in 24 minutes. He was a -3. The Action: He crossed over and hit the pull-up jumper from the top of the key. He missed a 21-footer. He missed a three short on a two-for-one. He made a tech FT. He missed an elbow jumper. He came off the down screen, took the pass from Kobe and hit the And-1 wing jumper, he missed the FT. Second Half: He drew FTs working off the Kobe pass and split play with Lin, he made both. He missed a fading wing jumper on a two-for-one. He missed a three on iso. He gave up a layup getting worked on the other end. He scored a layup off the pass by Lin on the break. He swished a sideline three off the Kobe pass, then a few seconds later on the other end, he jumped the passing lane to swipe a pass and take it for a layup.

Lin -- -- Great game by Lin. Let’s get to the end-of-the-game controversy first. The Lakers were down by 1 with 24 seconds left. Scott wanted to wait until the 10 second mark before fouling. Just a ridiculous decision. Kobe was yelling at Lin to take a foul, Lin was looking at Scott, Kobe ran and took it. The right thing to do. There’s no logical reason to let the clock wind down when you are in that situation. You have to take a foul. Kobe snapped at Lin after the play (Scott later said he explained to Kobe it was his decision and tried to defend it afterward…not smart basketball, coach). Lin said he kept looking to Scott and asking to foul. I think he was probably on the same page as Kobe, just doesn’t have the balls to override his coach’s stupidity. Excellent game by Lin prior to this. He had a strong stretch in the first half where he was a game-changer off the bench. He was calling his own number and scoring in the paint or on the perimeter. He picked it back up in the second half. Good mix of calling his own number and running some of Scott’s plays. “It’s a fine balance for him in terms of when to shoot and when to set everybody up,” Kobe said. Lin said, “There’s a lot of factors and once you get going you try to stick to it.” Maybe now that we seem to have found a comfort zone for Kobe, we can find one for Lin. Defensively, Lin had some moments, diving for a steal (one of three) and tossing it ahead to Ellington for a breakaway dunk, but he also struggled at times against Udrih (even without dealing with screens). He led all Lakers with 13 points in the first half. The Stats: He scored 20 points on 9-14 shooting (2-3 from three) to go with 3 boards, 5 assists, 3 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 28 minutes. He was a +2. The Action: He blew past his man and looked like he got hit on a layup with no call. He lost the ball out of bounds as he tried to pull up for a jumper and it slipped out of his hands. He took an outlet with speed and scored a layup. He passed up a three, moved in a foot and swished the jumper before falling down. He dove for a loose ball on the floor, recovered it and pitched it ahead to Ellington while Lin was still on the floor and Ellington dunked on the breakaway (great play). He attacked, put on the brakes and hit the turnaround in the lane. He worked off the Sacre screen and drilled a three out of a timeout. He missed a step-back, wing heat check next time down. He missed a transition three. He pushed it out with speed, slowed it up on a Euro-step and scored the lefty layup. He had 13 points on 6-8 shooting to lead the Lakers in the first half. Second Half: A few seconds into the game and he swiped the ball from his man on smothering D, took it the distance and scored a layup between defenders. He crossed over but went up off balance and barely hit rim on the baseline jumper. He took an inbounds with 7 seconds left, pushed it up with speed, collapsed the D and dumped it to Boozer for the dunk with 0.5 left. He crossed over and came up short on the jumper trying to create up against the shot clock. He pounced on a loose ball, pushed it up and hit Young for the layup. He crossed over, attacked the seam and swished the twisting pull-up in the lane. He drained a wing three off the handoff when his man went under the screen. He forced up and missed a long jumper.

Boozer -- -- His minutes were cut short with the foul trouble. He was efficient offensively, hitting the jumper or scoring around the rim. He wasn’t ready for a couple of passes from his guards tonight, but solid game on that end except for the turnovers (offensive foul, dribbling into a help defender, etc.), just a little sloppy for a vet. We had him defending the C spot quite a bit, which wasn’t easy, either. The Stats: He scored 14 points on 6-8 shooting (2-3 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 3 turnovers and 6 fouls in 22 minutes. He was a -7. The Action: He backed his man down with ease and scored a layup over him. He faced up and swished a sideline jumper. He missed a fade after not being ready for a pass from Lin. He dribbled right into a help defender and was easily picked. Second Half: He banked in an And-1 off the quick Kobe interior feed, he missed the FT. He spun baseline to lose Gasol and scored the layup. He dunked off the drive and dish by Lin at the end of the quarter. Sloppy screen, offensive foul turnover. He drew FTs on a layup, he made both. He airballed a step-back in the midpost. He attacked from the FT line and scored a layup between defenders.

Kelly -- -- He’s back in the lineup and can change the look of the Lakers a little if used right…and able to stay healthy. He came in with 2:47 left in the half and then later in the third when the Laker bigs had foul trouble. I really want to see him and Lin on the floor working the two-man game. Kelly can stretch the floor more than any other big. He’ll need to get the rust off, so I’m sure the first few games will be sloppy, but hopefully Scott finds spots for him. He’s a good team defender and very well rounded offensively. He missed a couple good looks at three tonight, but scored a layup off the two-man game with Kobe. He barely got in there tonight with all the Laker big foul trouble, but hopefully we see more of him. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-4 shooting (0-2 from three) to go with 2 boards, 1 block, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 10 minutes. He was a -9. The Action: He regained a possession getting fouled crashing the offensive glass. He set a great screen for Kobe’s man, then took the pass on the roll and scored a layup off a couple of long steps from the three line. Second Half: He missed an open wing three. He threw an outlet away. He missed a post-up attempt (probably got away with a travel on the start of that move). He missed an open three, too short working with Lin on the two-man game.

Ellington -- -- He teamed up with Lin for one of the highlight defense to offense plays when Lin dove to the floor and Ellington busted down court to take a pass from him for a dunk. He also had another nice transition D sequence after missing a shot himself but getting back on D to swipe the outlet. Decent minutes. The Laker second unit had a good balance to it. The bench scored 57 points tonight. The Stats: He scored 7 points on 3-5 shooting (0-1 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 1 board, 2 steals and 2 fouls in 15 minutes. He was a -8. The Action: He stripped a man and it led to a breakaway. He dunked on the pitch out from Lin who recovered a loose ball on the floor and tossed it ahead to him. He airballed a three trying to beat the shotclock, but intercepted the outlet by Gasol hustling back on D (love that after taking the shot to begin with). He passed up a layup attempt off the split play and swished the baseline turnaround instead. Second Half: He missed a jumper to start the fourth. He swished an And-1 wing jumper coming off the pindown, he made the FT.

Sacre -- -- Not much to report in this one. He barely had any stats in his 13 minutes, including no rebounds. Black and Kelly will be happy to take some of his minutes. The Stats: He didn’t score or shoot and had 1 block and 1 foul in 13 minutes. He was a -9. The Action: He blocked a shot in the middle of the paint. Second Half: Nothing to report.

Scott -- -- Kobe distributing the ball early, but the team missing a lot of shots. They still led 10-9 when the timeout came… Up 4, he brought in Boozer and Lin with 5 minutes left. The Lakers extended it to 8 points a minute later and the Grizzlies called a timeout… Sacre and Young in, so Kobe and the bench now up 7… Up 5, he sat Kobe for Ellington with 2 minutes left… The Lakers led 25-22 after the first quarter, giving up a score at the buzzer… Same unit to start the second quarter… Lin all over the court forcing a Grizzlies timeout as the Lakers extended the lead to 31-22. Lin calling his own number and taking it to the Grizzlies… Up just 4 again, he sat Boozer for Hill. So a Hill/Sacre unit. This would be where Kelly should come in… He brought in Davis to go with Hill, Young, Kobe and Lin. Kobe taking over PG duties again… Wes in for Young… Lin out for Price with 4:21 left up by 8… He brought in Kelly with 2:47 left in the half for Hill, Lakers up 48-42… The Lakers led 52-47, giving up more points right at the end of a quarter again (this time a three). The Lakers shot 54%, Grizzlies shot just 39% in the half. The Lakers had 8 turnovers in the half… Hill quickly picked up his fourth foul in the first minute of the half. Davis his third and fourth shortly later (10:21 mark). Scott left them in… He brought in Kelly for Davis, up 5 after 5 minutes… Up 1 with 6 minutes left, he brought in Boozer for Hill… Grizzlies picking it up on both ends… Lakers down 1 when Lin and Young came in… Kobe getting the ball in the high post with Lin and Swaggy working off the splits… Kobe out for Ellington… Lakers getting the last score of the quarter this time on a Lin drive and dish to Boozer. The Lakers trailed 80-77 heading into the fourth… He sat Kelly for Sacre to complete our usual second unit… Udrih killing the Lakers right now… He sat Sacre for Davis with 7 minutes left, down 7… Boozer fouled out with 6 minutes left. Hill in. He brought in Kobe for Ellington down 6… Hill picked up his fifth… A five-point sequence by Nick (a three, then a steal on the other end for a score) and the Lakers cut it to 1 with 4 minutes left… Hill fouled out on a charge with 3:31 left… Johnson in for Hill. Lakers down 4… The Lakers cut it to 2 with a couple of Davis scores with 2:22 left. Timeout Grizzlies… Big three by Kobe on iso… Lakers down 2 with 11.7 seconds left and the ball (after Scott made the dumb decision not to foul right away with 24 seconds left down 1. Kobe made his own decision and ran out on Lin’s man and fouled). Timeout. Kobe attacked the paint and fed Davis who was hammered with 2.8 seconds left. He made just one FT, Lakers down 1 and must foul… Down 3 with 0.6 seconds left. Timeout, Lakers. Kobe back-rimmed a three on the inbounds, dead straight, just barely too long… Tough game with all the foul trouble on our bigs…
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:55 pm    Post subject:

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Two fo going back to back!
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First.....Damn! Rookie mistake. Read the review before posting. Damn you 24!

That was def a flagrant on Davis on that play.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:01 am    Post subject:

THX DB. GO LAKERS
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:04 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Plenty of good emoticons but not enough for the W

Great game by Ed Davis! Season high in points.

Near triple-double for Kobe.

As someone posted in the game thread, there were two fire hydrants in Kobe/BS and Lin couldn't p!$$ on either lol...

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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote:
First.....Damn! Rookie mistake. Read the review before posting. Damn you 24!

That was def a flagrant on Davis on that play.


I was second too just to rub it in...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:04 am    Post subject:

Rob works hard, he just has no physical talent besides his size.

This game was ours for the taking. Frustrating that we let it slip away, but at least it was a fun, closely contested game.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:07 am    Post subject:

Refs sucked.

Scott brian farted.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:22 am    Post subject:

24 wrote:
KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote:
First.....Damn! Rookie mistake. Read the review before posting. Damn you 24!

That was def a flagrant on Davis on that play.


I was second too just to rub it in...


I'm pretty sure 24 cheats sometimes on these threads.

Lot of good things in the game, too bad they couldn't pull out the win.

Thanks DB
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:29 am    Post subject:

WHAT I LIKED

Kobe playing the right way
Before tonight, I thought the big test for Kobe the facilitator was if he could maintain his playmaking as a passer when a team played him straight up with single coverage. He passed with flying colors. Instead of trying to force the issue to try to make the other team double him, he ran the offense and also continued to run his defender off picks. A good sign for the offense going forward.

WHAT I DIDN'T LIKE

Low basketball IQ
It's fitting we had that Nick Young BBQ thread right before this game, because there were dumb plays all over the place tonight. Wes was caught daydreaming on multiple defensive possessions. In addition to the crunch time pumpfake that he bit on, he also gave up a big three at the end of the half to Prince by rotating off of him for no reason with one second left on the clock. Ronnie Price gave up 2 big threes helping one pass away off Conley. And of course there was the mindnumbing Byron Scott decision to run down the clock while trailing, and without even trying to trap.

Putting that defensive tandem of Kelly and Boozer out there while Marc was still on the floor was also painful.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:36 am    Post subject:

We're getting basically nothing from Hill. Crappy offense, crappy defense, and sometimey rebounding. He compounded matters tonight by taking a costly T and fouling out...although him being out of the game was probably a good thing. If Black is as good as advertised, we should give him some of Hill's minutes.

That should have been a flagrant at the end....but these refs didn't want to make the right call.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:44 am    Post subject:

24 wrote:
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:10 am    Post subject:

fiendishoc wrote:
Ronnie Price gave up 2 big threes helping one pass away off Conley.


I know it only takes a couple of seconds, but it happens in slow motion. Don't double...don't double... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....
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Thanks DB
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DancingBarry wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
Ronnie Price gave up 2 big threes helping one pass away off Conley.


I know it only takes a couple of seconds, but it happens in slow motion. Don't double...don't double... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....


it seems to be the defensive philosophy of the team, help d on the paint, recover to the 3 point line, it is almost impossible to recover on time, but the players do it again again, not only Ronnie, other perimeter players did the same thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:53 am    Post subject:

Honeybadger81 wrote:
DancingBarry wrote:
fiendishoc wrote:
Ronnie Price gave up 2 big threes helping one pass away off Conley.


I know it only takes a couple of seconds, but it happens in slow motion. Don't double...don't double... Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....


it seems to be the defensive philosophy of the team, help d on the paint, recover to the 3 point line, it is almost impossible to recover on time, but the players do it again again, not only Ronnie, other perimeter players did the same thing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:04 am    Post subject:

Didnt see Scotts comments.....but couldnt it just be a coach taking heat off a vulnerable player? Lin has been having a tough time lately. Otherwise, it just doesnt make sense.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:23 am    Post subject:

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Didnt see Scotts comments.....but couldnt it just be a coach taking heat off a vulnerable player? Lin has been having a tough time lately. Otherwise, it just doesnt make sense.


I went back to watch it again via my DVR. As Conley is bringing the ball up, you can clearly see Lin point at the clock and say something to Scott. Scott holds up his hand in a palm out gesture, universally recognized as a "wait" gesture, and says something back. Lin continues to look at Scott and then Conley, Scott, glancing back and forth between the two. This absolutely corroborates what Scott said and Lin said in their interviews about it. Add to that, people watching the Grizzlies' feed said that the Grizzlies' announcers said the exact same thing during and after the play: Lin was asking Scott if he should foul and Scott kept telling him no.

It's completely confirmed and verified that Scott was instructing Lin not to foul yet. I don't know what else people need to hear or see.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:51 am    Post subject:

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Didnt see Scotts comments.....but couldnt it just be a coach taking heat off a vulnerable player? Lin has been having a tough time lately. Otherwise, it just doesnt make sense.


Post game interview are on Lakers.com
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:13 am    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
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Didnt see Scotts comments.....but couldnt it just be a coach taking heat off a vulnerable player? Lin has been having a tough time lately. Otherwise, it just doesnt make sense.
I went back to watch it again via my DVR. As Conley is bringing the ball up, you can clearly see Lin point at the clock and say something to Scott. Scott holds up his hand in a palm out gesture, universally recognized as a "wait" gesture, and says something back. Lin continues to look at Scott and then Conley, Scott, glancing back and forth between the two. This absolutely corroborates what Scott said and Lin said in their interviews about it. Add to that, people watching the Grizzlies' feed said that the Grizzlies' announcers said the exact same thing during and after the play: Lin was asking Scott if he should foul and Scott kept telling him no.

It's completely confirmed and verified that Scott was instructing Lin not to foul yet. I don't know what else people need to hear or see.
As Kobe stated in his interview, the team needs to experience these brain farts (JLin and BScott). Amazing that this was not discussed in a prior TO. BScott's TO explanation made little sense.

It was great to see (as per the Stu Lantz description) the Good Lin that left the Bad Lin on the road. Providing the energy, effort and willingness to go after it (as noted by his floor burns) that is needed when coming off the bench. Hopefully he learn what a good PG (what he is missing is consistency and a better knowledge of game situations) needs to do on the court, especially at the end of games

Props to Mr. Big (Ed Davis)

BScott left JLin in the game at the end, showing that he will go with the players that are producing at the end of games.

Good to have RKelly on the court.

As teams have scouted Swaggy's game, it will be fascinating to see his adjustments.

The team is still discovering what it takes to close out games when good to elite teams ratchet up their execution on defense and offense.

Great that the team made DB's job easier by competing hard and limiting bad tendencies. Great work, DB!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:36 am    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
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Didnt see Scotts comments.....but couldnt it just be a coach taking heat off a vulnerable player? Lin has been having a tough time lately. Otherwise, it just doesnt make sense.
I went back to watch it again via my DVR. As Conley is bringing the ball up, you can clearly see Lin point at the clock and say something to Scott. Scott holds up his hand in a palm out gesture, universally recognized as a "wait" gesture, and says something back. Lin continues to look at Scott and then Conley, Scott, glancing back and forth between the two. This absolutely corroborates what Scott said and Lin said in their interviews about it. Add to that, people watching the Grizzlies' feed said that the Grizzlies' announcers said the exact same thing during and after the play: Lin was asking Scott if he should foul and Scott kept telling him no.

It's completely confirmed and verified that Scott was instructing Lin not to foul yet. I don't know what else people need to hear or see.
As Kobe stated in his interview, the team needs to experience these brain farts (JLin and BScott). Amazing that this was not discussed in a prior TO. BScott's TO explanation made little sense.

It was great to see (as per the Stu Lantz description) the Good Lin that left the Bad Lin on the road. Providing the energy, effort and willingness to go after it (as noted by his floor burns) that is needed when coming off the bench. Hopefully he learn what a good PG (what he is missing is consistency and a better knowledge of game situations) needs to do on the court, especially at the end of games

Props to Mr. Big (Ed Davis)

BScott left JLin in the game at the end, showing that he will go with the players that are producing at the end of games.

Good to have RKelly on the court.

As teams have scouted Swaggy's game, it will be fascinating to see his adjustments.

The team is still discovering what it takes to close out games when good to elite teams ratchet up their execution on defense and offense.

Great that the team made DB's job easier by competing hard and limiting bad tendencies. Great work, DB!!!


Please watch the post game show. Lin asked BS 3 times to foul or not at 10 sec.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:42 am    Post subject:

Shaqtin wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
mhan00 wrote:
Laker's Fan wrote:
Didnt see Scotts comments.....but couldnt it just be a coach taking heat off a vulnerable player? Lin has been having a tough time lately. Otherwise, it just doesnt make sense.
I went back to watch it again via my DVR. As Conley is bringing the ball up, you can clearly see Lin point at the clock and say something to Scott. Scott holds up his hand in a palm out gesture, universally recognized as a "wait" gesture, and says something back. Lin continues to look at Scott and then Conley, Scott, glancing back and forth between the two. This absolutely corroborates what Scott said and Lin said in their interviews about it. Add to that, people watching the Grizzlies' feed said that the Grizzlies' announcers said the exact same thing during and after the play: Lin was asking Scott if he should foul and Scott kept telling him no.

It's completely confirmed and verified that Scott was instructing Lin not to foul yet. I don't know what else people need to hear or see.
As Kobe stated in his interview, the team needs to experience these brain farts (JLin and BScott). Amazing that this was not discussed in a prior TO. BScott's TO explanation made little sense.

It was great to see (as per the Stu Lantz description) the Good Lin that left the Bad Lin on the road. Providing the energy, effort and willingness to go after it (as noted by his floor burns) that is needed when coming off the bench. Hopefully he learn what a good PG (what he is missing is consistency and a better knowledge of game situations) needs to do on the court, especially at the end of games

Props to Mr. Big (Ed Davis)

BScott left JLin in the game at the end, showing that he will go with the players that are producing at the end of games.

Good to have RKelly on the court.

As teams have scouted Swaggy's game, it will be fascinating to see his adjustments.

The team is still discovering what it takes to close out games when good to elite teams ratchet up their execution on defense and offense.

Great that the team made DB's job easier by competing hard and limiting bad tendencies. Great work, DB!!!
Please watch the post game show. Lin asked BS 3 times to foul or not at 10 sec.
I did

Still the question exist, why wasn't this discussed in a prior TO?

Why would one wait till the 10 seconds mark (as per BScott's explanation that "factored" in the TO situation)

A PG/everybody should have easily anticipated this situation and know exactly on to proceed.

Look forward to your explanation and wondering if you watched the entire post game program?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:56 am    Post subject:

Coaching.Coaching.Coaching

The team seems like they might have found something. They've been a scrappy team lately. Kobe remains controlled as he said he would, the bench is stepping up...

I like what the team has shown.

Although Davis missed the ft, i was stoked that Kobe made the pass. He could have take the shot while they closed on him, but he trusted his teamate
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:04 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB.

Mad Chinaman, the problem was the coach's decision. Lin follows the coach, plain and simple, he doesn't go against what the coach said. Byron clearly stated he told Kobe it was his judgment to wait to foul so Kobe went against the coach's instruction to the team. I agree with Kobe by the way, but Byron is the coach.
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