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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:11 am    Post subject: Sacre's future with the Lakers

After not seeing action in the last four games one has to think that Bob's days as a Laker could be numbered.

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Why Robert Sacre Could Be the Los Angeles Lakers' Unlikeliest Trade Candidate:
While much of the trade talk this season involving the Lakers has focused on such players as Jordan Hill, Jeremy Lin and even Steve Nash, the stark reality is that Sacre may very well be the best and easiest candidate to move before the NBA trading deadline February 19.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:28 am    Post subject:

Why?

He is the perfect cheep security big to ride the end of the bench.

However, if he continues to improve the way he improved from last season to this one, he could actually become a solid backup C.

Don't forget, he has one of the +/- stats of the Lakers. For what he makes, Sacre has produced.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:59 am    Post subject:

s_habe wrote:
Why?

He is the perfect cheep security big to ride the end of the bench.

However, if he continues to improve the way he improved from last season to this one, he could actually become a solid backup C.

Don't forget, he has one of the +/- stats of the Lakers. For what he makes, Sacre has produced.


Sacre is just that & I have no problem with that either however the linked article raises some interesting possibilities..
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:43 am    Post subject:

Gotta give credit to Sacre. Basically D-League player at best initially who works hard to become a solid back up big
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:12 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Gotta give credit to Sacre. Basically D-League player at best initially who works hard to become a solid back up big


i've trashed this guy for so long by calling him a scrub, Suckre, etc, but i gotta give him his credit.

sure, i prefer Tarik over him, but he has worked hard and shown improvement this season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:14 am    Post subject:

Well, it is clear that one of Hill/Davis/Sacre could be traded.

I doubt Black will be moved this soon (can he even?) and nobody wants Boozer (again, can we trade him? Probably not).

The problem is, we need a starting caliber C. And so far only Hill has been at this level. So if Hill goes, we definitely need a new starting C.

Then again, for Sacre we could not get much back. He is better than just a second round pick.

If Mitch would manage to package both Hill and Sacre (wtih Nash?) ... that could bring some interesting players to the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:21 am    Post subject:

I'd prefer if we could keep Sacre. He actually makes our team slightly better when he is on the court. He seems to be a good guy, the players all love him, he has legit C size, and he is dirt cheap. We should hold on to him for a few years. If his play continues to improve each season, he could very well become a good backup C.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:36 am    Post subject:

Scare will probably stay on, he's a serviceable C and has worked hard to earn a spot on the bench. If they ever call up Vander Blue from the DFenders, watch out for the Sacre Blue connection.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:41 am    Post subject:

I'm fine with him on the team as long as he doesn't play more than 5 minutes per game.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:49 am    Post subject:

Is Sacre better than Mbenga?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:53 am    Post subject:

Reflexx wrote:
Is Sacre better than Mbenga?


I think so, Mbenga actually is more athletic than Sacre but never did progressed. Sacre now has a decent turn around jumper, knows where/how to box out, doesn't turn ball over and decent limited D... of course on a back up big standard
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:10 am    Post subject:

We can definitely get a PG with some upside for Sacre. There are a few warming the bench on some NBA Teams. Tyler Enis, Norris Cole, Jameer Nelson, Sessions and Farmar who was just released. The key is if we want a PG, knowing where Clarkson will play?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:23 am    Post subject:

lakurluv wrote:
We can definitely get a PG with some upside for Sacre. There are a few warming the bench on some NBA Teams. Tyler Enis, Norris Cole, Jameer Nelson, Sessions and Farmar who was just released. The key is if we want a PG, knowing where Clarkson will play?


you're not getting ennis for Sacre. the best you can get is a mid 2nd round pick value. jameer nelson is old. sessions probably not likely, he already had his shot here. norris cole? maybe, depends on how desperate miami is.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Sacre is complete and utter garbage. He plays soft by not utilizing his size, doesnt rebound worth a damn, lacks strength to hold position on both offense/defense, lacks basic interior moves, and doesnt make smart plays when he has the ball. He SHOULD NOT BE SHOOTING TURNAROUND Js!!! On offense his picks are weak and he doesnt roll well and i NEVER see him try to outwork his opponents by establishing interior positioning to give the ballhandler (whereever they might be) an extra pass option in a set. Doing such takes ALOT of energy (which any big man who plays ball at any level knows) and since he's a at most 15 min player he has no excuse for not doing it every second while on the court!

Tarik Black otoh while severely lacking height fulfills most of the requisite skills needed from a big man. He plays strong by preferring to bang inside instead of floating around. Thus giving a penetrator an extra dump off option or puts himself in best offensive rebounding position. Has excellent strength to fight for rebounds (although im not quite sure how athletic he is relative to his peers). Sets strong picks and rolls well thus providing plenty of threat to either receive a pass to score or give the ball handler a clearer lane to the basket by drawing attention. He's a player who plays within himself and doesnt do silly crap like try to ISO against a decent and set defender or shoot turnaround jumpers. Tarik sadly is not starting quality as he lacks height, polished post game, and likely a non existant mid range game. However for an energy big off the bench he fits that role very well.

Face it, we played Sacre a whole bunch early on trying to puff up his trade value, but it doesnt look like any teams were dumb enough to trade for him. Playing him anymore right now is a complete waste of time now that we have Black to try to develop now instead and Davis as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:13 pm    Post subject:

sacre is an end of the bench big, who is in no danger of destroying a game. at 25, he's probably never going to blow anyone away with his development, but being the last pick in the 2n round, i don't think anyone was ever expecting him to. or shouldn't have.

at a measly 900k, he should be limited to 5 minutes and DNPs to soak up fouls and grab some boards, if he is ever able to figure how to use his frame.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Sacre's future with the Lakers

pio2u wrote:
After not seeing action in the last four games one has to think that Bob's days as a Laker could be numbered.

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Why Robert Sacre Could Be the Los Angeles Lakers' Unlikeliest Trade Candidate:
While much of the trade talk this season involving the Lakers has focused on such players as Jordan Hill, Jeremy Lin and even Steve Nash, the stark reality is that Sacre may very well be the best and easiest candidate to move before the NBA trading deadline February 19.


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Seems like this is some idle speculation of a writer who doesn't know anything we don't know.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:36 pm    Post subject:

Sacre is a great (read: cheap) insurance big. Hill is the one that needs to go ASAP.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:54 pm    Post subject:

I dont see any reason to trade Sacre. They would only get a 2nd round pick or another guy that won't get minutes. There are only enough minutes to go aroumd for 9 guys or so. The others are insurance.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:24 pm    Post subject:

Treble Clef wrote:
I dont see any reason to trade Sacre. They would only get a 2nd round pick or another guy that won't get minutes. There are only enough minutes to go aroumd for 9 guys or so. The others are insurance.


A second round pick is pretty much all you will get for just about any player on our team.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:13 am    Post subject:

Tarik Black's injury mean Sacre can put down the pom-poms and get ready for more playing time. I'm sure he's fired up and ready to go after sitting for so long.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:15 pm    Post subject:

Everyone wants a piece of Roberto!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:19 pm    Post subject:



A little tribute for our man Rob Sacre.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:24 pm    Post subject:

sacre is cheap not bad for 12th man... improved every year. wish he was more of goon. goons can get by with strength and intimidation
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:15 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Reflexx wrote:
Is Sacre better than Mbenga?


I think so, Mbenga actually is more athletic than Sacre but never did progressed. Sacre now has a decent turn around jumper, knows where/how to box out, doesn't turn ball over and decent limited D... of course on a back up big standard


Jimbo and Mitch need to take a trip and find us the next Dieng!

What a find for the Wolves.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:55 am    Post subject:

R. Sacre is a mirror-image of the team this season.
He's not quite the worst player in the league and the Lakers are not quite the worst team in the NBA.
However both are hovering somewhere near the bottom of the barrel this season.
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