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DeeAgeaux
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It is helpful when anybody without special skill or warming up the rear tires by burning $20 of Pirelli P-Zero Nero rubber can run repeatable 3.1s and 11.5s.
P85D Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 come with 20k mile warranty
Hellcat's P Zero Nero has no mileage warranty.
Tesla 86 MPGe City and 94 MPGe highway
Dodge 13 city and 22 highway.
Boosting performance by switching out Tesla's porky 35 lbs low pressure cast aerodynamic wheels for forged wheels with more aggressive rubber is easy.
Boosting performance on the Dodge that already comes with forged fork wheels,aggressive rubber and boosted(at 11.6 psi) engine is not.
And don't get me started on NVH. |
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lakersken80
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| DeeAgeaux wrote: | It is helpful when anybody without special skill or warming up the rear tires by burning $20 of Pirelli P-Zero Nero rubber can run repeatable 3.1s and 11.5s.
P85D Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 come with 20k mile warranty
Hellcat's P Zero Nero has no mileage warranty.
Tesla 86 MPGe City and 94 MPGe highway
Dodge 13 city and 22 highway.
Boosting performance by switching out Tesla's porky 35 lbs low pressure cast aerodynamic wheels for forged wheels with more aggressive rubber is easy.
Boosting performance on the Dodge that already comes with forged fork wheels,aggressive rubber and boosted(at 11.6 psi) engine is not.
And don't get me started on NVH. |
Still doesn't comprehend that the driver in the Hellcat doesn't know how to drive the car.
At the end of the day, the critical component, the driver is the one who realizes the full potential of the equipment they are given. BTW, it is much easier to drive an AWD than a RWD car. |
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DeeAgeaux
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | DeeAgeaux wrote: | It is helpful when anybody without special skill or warming up the rear tires by burning $20 of Pirelli P-Zero Nero rubber can run repeatable 3.1s and 11.5s.
P85D Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 come with 20k mile warranty
Hellcat's P Zero Nero has no mileage warranty.
Tesla 86 MPGe City and 94 MPGe highway
Dodge 13 city and 22 highway.
Boosting performance by switching out Tesla's porky 35 lbs low pressure cast aerodynamic wheels for forged wheels with more aggressive rubber is easy.
Boosting performance on the Dodge that already comes with forged fork wheels,aggressive rubber and boosted(at 11.6 psi) engine is not.
And don't get me started on NVH. |
Still doesn't comprehend that the driver in the Hellcat doesn't know how to drive the car.
At the end of the day, the critical component, the driver is the one who realizes the full potential of the equipment they are given. BTW, it is much easier to drive an AWD than a RWD car. |
True and True.
Hellcat driver does not know how to drive.
Tesla is much much easier to drive. AWD is easier to drive.
These are not selling points for the Dodge.
Neither is the requirement you send smoke signals to the police before you can get the traction to fully take advantage of the drivetrain. |
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Mike@LG
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Electric will always have an advantage when the power is similar.
Don't forget, the Tesla has 2 motors and four wheel drive getting power to the ground.
You think there's any slip by an electric car?
ICEs overpower the grip easily and don't get the power to the ground. Sure, it takes some limited skill to get consistent runs.
But it takes absolutely no skill on the Tesla to get great repeatable runs.
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lakersken80
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| Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| DeeAgeaux wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | DeeAgeaux wrote: | It is helpful when anybody without special skill or warming up the rear tires by burning $20 of Pirelli P-Zero Nero rubber can run repeatable 3.1s and 11.5s.
P85D Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 come with 20k mile warranty
Hellcat's P Zero Nero has no mileage warranty.
Tesla 86 MPGe City and 94 MPGe highway
Dodge 13 city and 22 highway.
Boosting performance by switching out Tesla's porky 35 lbs low pressure cast aerodynamic wheels for forged wheels with more aggressive rubber is easy.
Boosting performance on the Dodge that already comes with forged fork wheels,aggressive rubber and boosted(at 11.6 psi) engine is not.
And don't get me started on NVH. |
Still doesn't comprehend that the driver in the Hellcat doesn't know how to drive the car.
At the end of the day, the critical component, the driver is the one who realizes the full potential of the equipment they are given. BTW, it is much easier to drive an AWD than a RWD car. |
True and True.
Hellcat driver does not know how to drive.
Tesla is much much easier to drive. AWD is easier to drive.
These are not selling points for the Dodge.
Neither is the requirement you send smoke signals to the police before you can get the traction to fully take advantage of the drivetrain. |
BTW, I never said the Tesla was slower or faster than the Hellcat. Just making an observation. |
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| lakersken80 wrote: |
Still doesn't comprehend that the driver in the Hellcat doesn't know how to drive the car. |
You know, if PNP was driving the Dodge, different story. Just sayin.
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It's all about instant torque. The moment the motor engages on the Tesla it is at peak torque. The result is some serious acceleration.
The ICE on the Dodge has variable torque and will never achieve acceleration like that. |
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Yeah, but start them both off at a 30 mph roll and it's not going to even be close. The Tesla will be left in the dust.
But still... what Tesla has done in just a few years is impressive. I wonder how much more improvements they'll have all-around in another 10 yrs. |
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That torque + all wheel drive = crazy off the line acceleration. If 1/4 mile performance is all you cared about then...I guess. But taking into account the trap speed, the Tesla seems to be fizzling out. I know the Hellcat is heavy as hell...never looked into the Tesla nor plan to.
Personally, how a car does on the track is what I base performance figures on, mostly. Drag strip performance is just an indicator...like the slalom or skidpad.
That new Mustang GT350R though...
I really want to see how that performs in all categories. |
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Mike@LG
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It doesn't seem to fizzle out.
It does.
Electric powered cars are max torque <1 rpm and decrease all the way through.
Gas powered cars peak normally around 4250 or so, so it's normal to have higher top end speeds.
But, if you have a Tesla D, you can afford Carbon Fiber wheels...
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| LOL dumbass jumped, stopped, then got a HORRIBLE start, then spun halfway down the friggen track!!! SUCH a DODGE driver! |
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