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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:29 pm    Post subject: LAKERS -at- SUNS - 1-19-15 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

Too Many Turnovers… “You aren’t going to win a whole lot of games when you have 23 turnovers,” Scott said after the 115-100 loss to the Suns.

Again no Kobe and no Price in this game. The Lakers held strong in the first half, opening up a 6-point lead at one point and finishing the half tied behind a balanced attack.

The Suns scored 12 points on the break as the Lakers had 6 turnovers in the third quarter. L.A. trailed by 10 heading into the fourth and then lost the first few minutes. The blowout was about in session as the Lakers trailed by 17.

“Any little bit of pressure on us and we seemed to fold,” Scott said, not liking the Lakers poise.

Nick Young didn’t give up. He caught fire with a series of threes and 16 straight points in the fourth. It brought the Lakers back to within single digits. Close but no room for error and the Lakers weren’t playing error-free ball. They faded down the stretch. Losing those first few minutes of the fourth ended up too tough to come back from.


Hill -- -- He led the Lakers with 6 turnovers. That’s never a good thing from your bigman, but we’ve been depending on him a little more to create and his hands and decision making weren’t great tonight. Nearly a double-double, but he needed to clean it up. Defensively, the Lakers were pretty soft all game on their rotations in the half court. The Stats: He scored 12 points on 5-11 shooting (2-3 from the line) to go with 9 boards, 3 assists, 6 turnovers and 3 fouls in 27 minutes. He was a -11. The Action: He missed an 18-footer off the two-man game. He got tapped on a jumphook in the middle of the lane. He threw a pass away. He was stripped on a post move, layup the other way. He hit a floater off a nice Laker passing sequence as they were cycling threw their offense. Great job running the floor and Lin found him for the dunk. He sank a 21-footer off the two-man game next time down. He was stripped on the high post for a layup the other way. He missed a wing jumper next time down. He missed a 20-footer. He cut down the lane off Wes’s rebound of his miss and he drew FTs on the foul at the rim after a handoff, he made one. He iso’d at the end of the quarter and missed a layup he probably should have finished better. Second Half: He scored an And-1 layup when Lin found him under the hoop, he made the FT. He missed an elbow face-up jumper. He swished the top-of-the-key jumper off the Young kickout. He tapped a jumpball too far out and it led to a breakaway score.

Lin -- -- Better game from Lin as he orchestrated the offense with the ball in his hands a little more. This led to a team-high 10 assists. He also did a good job making sure Nick got the ball when he was on fire in the fourth quarter. On how Scott wants him to run the offense: “He wants me to get everyone involved and get them set up and get everyone going in way that’s their strength,” Lin said. He said the trick for him is finding a balance with the screen-roll and mentioned trying to get some early offense opportunities in that and finding a balance with everything else. Defensively, the Lakers had their hands full with a trio of Suns guards. Some foul trouble for Lin in the first half but he didn’t pick up another foul the rest of the way. The Stats: He scored 10 points on 4-9 shooting (1-2 from three, 1-2 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 10 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers and 3 fouls in 31 minutes. He was a -4. The Action: He got tapped on a layup at the front of the rim. He sank a quick-fire three off the early offense screen. He found Davis in the lane on a lob for FTs. He attacked from the wing strong and scored the layup. He was blocked trying to score on a quick counter strike after a made basket. He hit Hill running the floor for the dunk. He found him on the two-man game for the 21-footer. Off mark on a lob to Davis who was left open. He pounded the dribble too much, then attacked and was blocked. He then picked up his third foul with 31 seconds left in the half and had to sit. Second Half: He probed baseline, kept his dribble alive and found Hill under the hoop for the And-1. He looked obviously fouled on a pass with no call, layup the other way. He scored a layup when Davis scooped up a loose ball and hit him in transition. He attacked the paint strong and came down hard in a pile for FTs, he made one. He found Davis pop free at the elbow he was able to attack for a dunk. He pushed out the break and hit Ellington for FTs. He missed a sideline three. He pushed up the break and threw a bad pass that Hill couldn’t finish (looked like a sure layup before that). We got it back and this time Lin’s bad pass was picked off. He attacked to his left off the screen and scored the layup. He lost his man and gave up a three. Great job pushing up the break and finding a hot Young for the And-1 three. He missed a big step-back jumper with over 2 minutes left.

Davis -- -- “They’re a handful. Way too many turnovers,” Davis said, mentioning the number of easy layups the Suns got out of it. Good job on the offensive glass with a game-high 5 offensive boards (and game-high 11 total). He had 4 of those offensive boards in the first quarter. A lot of garbage man work. He and Lin had slightly more chemistry this game, but they still need to work on it. It just hasn’t been there like it should. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 2-7 shooting (4-6 from the line) to go with 11 boards (5 offensive), 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block and 2 fouls in 22 minutes. He was a -7. The Action: Bogus foul on a rejection on the first defensive stand. He drew FTs trying to power up on an offensive board, he made both. He drew FTs off the lob from Lin, he missed both. He was blocked on a layup off the two-man game, layup the other way. He grabbed an offensive board and kicked to Wes for the open three. He kicked out to Ellington for the three. He missed an And-1 layup he should have finished on the break, he made both FTs. He swiped a ball but missed the short jumper badly. Second Half: He blocked a jumper, but we couldn’t recover. He missed a point-blank putback he should have had. He scooped up a loose ball and hit Lin breaking out for the layup. He popped free at the elbow and Lin found him, he attacked for a dunk. He ripped a post entry pass away and dunked.

Johnson -- -- There was a stretch when he was sinking shot after shot from the perimeter in the second half. He looked pretty automatic. Very controlled game from him, taking the simple shot for the most part and not trying to do too much. Late in the game, he had a wide open sideline three the Lakers could have used that he missed. That just about sealed the Lakers fate after falling behind so much. Good job moving the ball, but he had 4 turnovers. “We’ve been careless with the ball. We’ve got to value the basketball,” Wes said, mentioning the Suns gamble for steals. The Stats: He scored 12 points on 5-10 shooting (1-3 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 4 assists, 4 turnovers and no fouls in 30 minutes. He was a -19. The Action: He sank a 17-foot jumper off the pindown to start the quarter. He sank a tech FT. Nice feed to Hill off the two-man game for the score. He missed a sideline three, got it back and sank the second one, both wide open. He was called for a carry. He was stripped in the post. He grabbed an offensive board and it led to Hill FTs. Second Half: He was blocked on a pull-up in a crowd. He swished a 20-footer working off the split play. He popped out and hit the wing jumper. He spotted Davis open under the hoop for a dunk. He sank a 20-footer off a handoff. Poor kickout, layup the other way on the turnover. He missed a jumper standing on the three line after taking a dribble. He threw a pass away in the backcourt. He missed a wide open sideline three (big miss with under 4 minutes left). He missed a tough heave from three.

Ellington -- -- No Kobe again, so he got the starter’s job. He was on fire briefly for a stretch in the first half. But that can be hard to exploit since he can’t create shots for himself. Our Young/Ellington SG duo tonight combed for 33 points on 10-19 shooting. The Stats: He scored 9 points on 3-7 shooting (1-2 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 22 minutes. He was a -7. The Action: He missed a turnaround on iso. He missed an open three. He probed the lane and wrapped a pass around a defender to set up Black for FTs. He swished an elbow turnaround jumper. He drained a three on the next trip down on a kickout. He swished a baseline catch and shoot off the inbounds. Second Half: He missed a baseline jumper off the inbounds. He drew FTs filling the lane with Lin on the break, he made both. He was picked trying to push out the break, And-1 layup the other way (slow it down!).

Young -- -- “I had a spiritual walk, I keep telling y’all,” Nick said of his turnaround. A very controlled start to the game. He wasn’t jacking a ton of off-balance shots. Later in the fourth, he started stroking the threes, several swishes in a short stretch to go long with some points at the line. Once he gets in the zone it doesn’t matter how he shoots it, it’s going down. He said Kobe inspired him with the passing, so he got 3 assists tonight. Unfortunately, the Lakers were already out of this one when he got it going (including a 4-pointer). “Hopefully, he can take this game and kind of build on it,” Scott said. The Stats: He scored 24 points on 7-12 shooting (4-7 from three, 6-7 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 3 assists, 2 steals, 4 turnovers and 3 fouls in 26 minutes. He was a -8. The Action: He was held on the perimeter for FTs, he made both. He swished a pull-up at the FT line. He missed a three, but crashed the glass and tipped in a miss. He missed an off-balance wing three. Second Half: He swished an elbow fade on the catch and shoot. He was blocked on a layup trying to ball fake and score (faked no one). He missed a tough post fade. He drew FTs on a perimeter reach, he made one FT. He swished a wing three on the catch and shoot. He drew FTs off ball and made both. He swished a sideline three. He swished another three next time down. He swished another And-1 three when Lin found him in transition, he made the FT. Wow, bail out call against Nick after he made a nice challenge forcing his man into a bad shot (he was ticked). He missed a tough three trying to beat the shotclock. He attacked and hit Hill for the jumper. He fumbled away a dribble trying to attack the paint. He was called for an offensive foul, thinking he got tripped and earned FTs.

Boozer -- -- Quiet game from Boozer. We should be relying on him more, not less with Lin now in the starting lineup. The second unit needs his offensive production. It could be that the guys are gravitating a little more toward Tarik with how he sets screens and can be a weapon rolling. Clarkson needs to work on orchestrating the ball to him a little more. Defensively, Boozer nearly had a highlight jumping into a passing lane for a steal, but then he tried to push it out and booted it out of bounds. So much for the rare defensive highlight. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 3-6 shooting (1-4 from the line) to go with 7 boards, 1 steal, 2 turnovers and 3 fouls in 26 minutes. He was a -8. The Action: He tapped out a FT miss to regain a possession. He attacked and missed a short bank. He missed a short one in the paint. Quick first step and he drew FTs on the baseline, he made one. He sank a turnaround in the low post, just beating the shotclock. He drew FTs on a turnaround from the mid post, he missed both. Second Half: He faked a handoff, attacked left and hit the layup. He swished an elbow jumper off the bounce pass from Clarkson. He swiped a pass and kicked it out of bounds trying to push it out. He missed a 15-footer. He was called for an offensive foul backing his man down in the paint.

Black -- -- He punched the floor with his fist several times as he grimaced in pain midway through the fourth quarter. He sprained his ankle like a pretty good one, coming down hard. Difficult to say if or how much this could sideline him right now. The x-rays were negative. He said he thinks it’s a regular sprain. “We’ll see what happens,” he said of the injury. He’s one of the more intriguing things to watch on the floor as we chalk up the losses. Hopefully, it’s not too long. Wish he could have been more of a threat on the glass. We can’t have 3-rebound games from him in as many minutes. He has to have the motor going and outworking guys. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 2-3 shooting (2-4 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 1 steal, 1 block, 1 turnover and 4 fouls in 21 minutes. He was a -4. The Action: He drew FTs on the interior feed from Ellington, he made one. He got lost on an up fake and gave up a dunk. He missed a jumphook up against the shotclock. He reversed around his man in early offense next time down. Great help D on Kelly’s man to reject the drive out of bounds (more please). Second Half: His pass to Clarkson under the hoop was a little too hot to handle, turnover. He drew FTs trying to attack the paint, he made one. He out-muscled his man for an offensive board and powered it back in. Nice read on help D to swipe a pass that we’d normally give up a dunk on.

Clarkson -- -- He had a highlight-reel two-handed putback slam. He struggled to finish around the rim other than that and also missed both threes he took. That was very nice, though. Some good moments on the glass, probably more than the 3 boards shows. He didn’t cause a lot of problems for the opponent, just 1 assist in the game as the backup PG. I’d like to see him work with Boozer a little more. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 2-7 shooting (0-2 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 1 assist, 1 turnover and no fouls in 17 minutes. He was a -11. The Action: He was held on the perimeter off ball and drew FTs, he made both. He missed a long three when Nick dumped the ball to him at the end of the quarter to create. He two-hand slammed back down a missed shot with a scream. He attacked the paint and was rejected for a layup the other way. Second Half: He hit Boozer for the elbow jumper. He attacked but couldn’t finish over the help D. He missed a wing three on a handoff. He sank a step-back 20-footer up against the shotclock. He worked the ball to Black on the two-man game for FTs. He was swatted on a layup after faking the initial defender. Too hot a pass in close quarters, three pointer the other way in transition.

Kelly -- -- Still at the backup SF spot, he’s getting slightly more comfortable there. He had some awkward moments pulling up around the FT line and trying to score on leaners. Not an easy shot. He did hit his only three of the night, wish he would have gotten one or two more up instead of passing them up. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 1-3 shooting (1-1 from three, 3-4 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 1 block, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 18 minutes. He was a +4. The Action: He sank a wing three in early offense (looked fouled too). He curled down the lane and missed a little flip in (should have tried to finish stronger). He drew FTs trying to pull up on a drive, he made one. He missed a floater from the FT line. He attacked with the shotclock low and drew FTs, he made both. Second Half: Green blew past him for a layup. He swatted Green’s jumper on the sideline on iso. No box out and he gave up an offensive board. He stepped on a sideline trying to push off.

Scott -- -- The Lakers led 15-14 midway through the quarter when the timeout came. The Suns pushing tempo, the Lakers playing along with it… He brought in Boozer and Black out of that timeout… Clarkson for Lin… Young in for Johnson… He brought in Kelly to get the full bench out there, Lakers up 1 with 3 minutes left… The Lakers trailed 26-25 after the first quarter… Same unit to start the second quarter… Both teams trading hoops… He brought in Lin for Clarkson, Lakers up 2… He brought in Hill and Davis again, Lakers up 1… Some good Laker D for a stretch… Starters back in, Lakers up 2 with 5 minutes left… Feels like the Lakers could go on a run here, but can’t quite string it together… He sat Lin for Clarkson with 31 seconds left when Lin picked up his third foul, Lakers up 3… The Lakers were tied 51-51 at the half… Pace favoring the Suns despite the Lakers trying to slow it down (mostly). The Suns started to pull out to a lead with a bunch of layups and dunks… The Lakers trailed by 4 when the timeout came… Down 7, he brought in Black and Boozer with 4 minutes left… Young in for Ellington… Down 6, he sat Lin for Clarkson with over 2 minutes left… Scott going a little longer with Wes this quarter as he’s hitting some shots. Lakers still can’t get pace under control… The Lakers fading… The Lakers trailed 87-77 heading into the fourth quarter… He started the Black, Boozer, Kelly, Young, Clarkson unit… The Suns continued to get scores in transition and just about broke open the game for good by winning the first few minutes of the fourth… He brought back Lin with over 7 minutes left for Clarkson, Lakers down 17… Suns lighting it up from three… Nick, too… Black out with the sprained ankle for Hill with 5 minutes left, Lakers down 11… Young with 16 straight points to bring the Lakers closer, but still too big a hole… Lakers gave up multiple offensive board sin the final minute…


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Second! #thanksDB
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Thanks as always!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:40 pm    Post subject:

db as always

“Any little bit of pressure on us and we seemed to fold,” Scott said, not liking the Lakers poise.

The more BS talks, the more his true colors show. Definitely cup is half-empty kind of guy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:56 pm    Post subject:

+ nick young is shooting well again
+ lin had a decent game
- sloppy passing - team seems like it has low bbiq
- where is the defense? most frustrating thing to watch - no hustle, no grit
- in the final possession for the suns, they stood around and did nothing gave up - then on offense they tried to put in one more shot.. to do what? give up on D and try to score one more bucket? what does that prove

so many minuses...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:58 pm    Post subject:

It's 115-100.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:07 pm    Post subject:

I liked the fight in the team as they clawed back. Black getting hurt hindered the comeback attempt as the interior D and hustle went with him.

As for turnovers, they tend to call too many high post splits with Kobe out, and Hill is definitely not a great distributor. Plus, unlike the Adelman corner offense, they don't get a lot of variety out of it, with 90% of the splits ending up on the strong side with the wing in the corner (usually Johnson) getting a handoff from the big up top and then trying to create with it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:14 pm    Post subject:

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I periodically peruse-google the opposing teams newspapers, forums, et. al. to get an idea how the other teams fans and media see the games. I've haven't had time to check EVERY other cities alternatives but of the ones I have, NOTHING comes close to the decisive critique that DB gives. i don't know what his day job is but it seems clear he could quit it in favor of bb commentary. He is so good, thanks DB.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:22 pm    Post subject:

Thanks, DB! Lovely read.

One of the most remarkable failures of coach Scott has been the defense of the Lakers.
Could it be blamed on the personnel mostly? I doubt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:28 pm    Post subject:

catman2u wrote:
summerly wrote:
Login and say thank you to DB


I periodically peruse-google the opposing teams newspapers, forums, et. al. to get an idea how the other teams fans and media see the games. I've haven't had time to check EVERY other cities alternatives but of the ones I have, NOTHING comes close to the decisive critique that DB gives. i don't know what his day job is but it seems clear he could quit it in favor of bb commentary. He is so good, thanks DB.


True, DB is one of the reasons why I think LG is a great forum and I'd love to stay.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:35 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Great job as usual. Missed the game due to work but your write-ups really help.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:42 pm    Post subject:

the refs also did a fine job helping the lakers... tank
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:57 pm    Post subject:

s_habe wrote:
Thanks, DB! Lovely read.

One of the most remarkable failures of coach Scott has been the defense of the Lakers.
Could it be blamed on the personnel mostly? I doubt.


Numerous times when Thomas/Dragic get their pick and find a clear path to the rim, our big guys were slow motion and soft like charmin. Point in paint we gave up 52.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:08 am    Post subject:

Ellington's defense was just god awful. letting Goron go off on him in the 1st half for 17pts! hell, every one he guarded scored on him. that's just sad. but the game was lost when the 2nd unit came in near the end of 3rd quarter and the deficit ballooned to 18pts in the 4th until Byron finally decided to call a TO to get the starters back in. oh well, maybe he can use the saved timeouts for the next game vs Pelicans
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catman2u wrote:
summerly wrote:
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I periodically peruse-google the opposing teams newspapers, forums, et. al. to get an idea how the other teams fans and media see the games. I've haven't had time to check EVERY other cities alternatives but of the ones I have, NOTHING comes close to the decisive critique that DB gives. i don't know what his day job is but it seems clear he could quit it in favor of bb commentary. He is so good, thanks DB.



This times a hundred.

The Suns are a good team with better personnel and coaching.
To get as close it was could be a moral victory, I guess.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:11 am    Post subject:

Very winnable game had we some sort of system in place. Both offense and defense were a mess.

Offense was stagnant and all we did was try to look for the hot hand for ISOs. Lin did an excellent job getting people decent looks with penetration, but couldnt do much for himself since the lane was clogged and people weren't moving. TBH alot of his assists are the meh variety, pass off to a shooter and hope they hit a bucket. Alot of Price's assists are that way primarily, as he doesnt really play make so much as just make an initial pass and run off to the corner waiting for a final option bailout pass. Not to mention Davis suddenly getting fumblelitis all of a sudden, he usually vacuums up passes nearby and finishes strong. At least players, when they got the ball close to the basket were attacking strong and getting FTs. 2nd half when the refs decided to swallow the whistles we couldnt hang.

Defensively was just pure ugh. Basically it was switch Lin to the hottest of the trio of PGs and pray they miss their open outside shots when they kick out. Lin did what he could to stay in front for the most part but the team defense was just dreadful. Late or oftentimes NO rotation leaving Suns shooters wide open or an uncontested lane to the bucket. Refs didnt help as they basically screwed over Lin on phantom calls or gifting Bledsoe FTs for his wild out of control attacks into the paint. Interior defense was non-existant as Laker bigs were constantly out of position or didnt bother to contest (I'm looking at you Hill you selfish lazy (bleep)). Suns were ice cold in the 1st half from range but as expected started to heat up in the 2nd, i mean wtf do u expect if u keep leaving them wide open.

Hopefully Scott lets Lin play with the starters and have Price backup. Clarkson simply isn't ready, although its good to see HOW unready he is in real live gametime against good guards. Lin's outside shot is getting steadier and i'd like to have Kobe have an extra perimeter threat for a pass instead of the woeful shooting Price.

If Young is gonna ISO chuck it's better to use Price to do the initial pass off, since apparently Clarkson can't make a simple wing pass without it being an adventure.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:19 am    Post subject:

summerly wrote:
catman2u wrote:
summerly wrote:
Login and say thank you to DB
I periodically peruse-google the opposing teams newspapers, forums, et. al. to get an idea how the other teams fans and media see the games. I've haven't had time to check EVERY other cities alternatives but of the ones I have, NOTHING comes close to the decisive critique that DB gives. i don't know what his day job is but it seems clear he could quit it in favor of bb commentary. He is so good, thanks DB.
True, DB is one of the reasons why I think LG is a great forum and I'd love to stay.
Agree about the comment about how great are the breakdowns following most games!

The Lakers play hard, just not hard enough
(Kenny Smith)

Who are the most mentally toughest on the roster?

Which players need to display the needed/greater mental toughness?

Since this forum have often complained about not sharing the ball, what are the thoughts of Swaggy playing like Kobe without the same success at critical times of this game?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:31 am    Post subject:

Decent game from Lin today. Would have been better, but he got screwed on some calls as he got hammered a couple of times driving the lane and got an undeserved turnover when the refs missed a pretty obvious grab on his arm as he was trying to throw a pass.

Hill has been great lately, but today was pretty poor as he had trouble holding onto the ball today. Just straight fumbled it a few times. Ugly.

Teams are figuring Davis out. They sit on his left hand now, so he isn't getting the same easy finishes he was getting earlier on. He needs some counters.

Great to see Nick finally show some signs of life. It helped a lot that a lot of his makes came off of catch and shoot situations today too, IMO.

Clarkson showing flashes, but he's still raw. But I really, really want him to get more time on the floor. He's the main guy in the backcourt who is likely to have a long future with the Lakers. I'd like him to get as much learning and development experience as possible.

I hope Tarik is okay. I'm not sure I can take more Sacre now that I've watched Black play. Get well soon.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:53 am    Post subject:

A Mad Chinaman wrote:
summerly wrote:
catman2u wrote:
summerly wrote:
Login and say thank you to DB
I periodically peruse-google the opposing teams newspapers, forums, et. al. to get an idea how the other teams fans and media see the games. I've haven't had time to check EVERY other cities alternatives but of the ones I have, NOTHING comes close to the decisive critique that DB gives. i don't know what his day job is but it seems clear he could quit it in favor of bb commentary. He is so good, thanks DB.
True, DB is one of the reasons why I think LG is a great forum and I'd love to stay.
Agree about the comment about how great are the breakdowns following most games!

The Lakers play hard, just not hazard enough
(Kenny Smith)

Who are the most mentally toughest on the roster?

Which players need to display the needed/greater mental toughness?

Since this forum have often complained about not sharing the ball, what are the thoughts of Swaggy playing like Kobe without the same success at critical times of this game?


I agree on NY being able to make his own offense, kinda like Kobe used to do and sometimes still does. I still think though they are both much better if they occasionally create their own shot but instead more often play within a system for better looks and maybe even a give and go here and there. I lay this all on BS. Does he realy think that style of play would EVER get the lakers in the playoffs? If not why does he not so SOMETHING about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:22 am    Post subject:

catman2u wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
summerly wrote:
catman2u wrote:
summerly wrote:
Login and say thank you to DB
I periodically peruse-google the opposing teams newspapers, forums, et. al. to get an idea how the other teams fans and media see the games. I've haven't had time to check EVERY other cities alternatives but of the ones I have, NOTHING comes close to the decisive critique that DB gives. i don't know what his day job is but it seems clear he could quit it in favor of bb commentary. He is so good, thanks DB.
True, DB is one of the reasons why I think LG is a great forum and I'd love to stay.
Agree about the comment about how great are the breakdowns following most games!

The Lakers play hard, just not hard enough
(Kenny Smith)

Who are the most mentally toughest on the roster?

Which players need to display the needed/greater mental toughness?

Since this forum have often complained about not sharing the ball, what are the thoughts of Swaggy playing like Kobe without the same success at critical times of this game?
I agree on NY being able to make his own offense, kinda like Kobe used to do and sometimes still does. I still think though they are both much better if they occasionally create their own shot but instead more often play within a system for better looks and maybe even a give and go here and there. I lay this all on BS. Does he realy think that style of play would EVER get the lakers in the playoffs? If not why does he not so SOMETHING about it.
BScott has mentioned often that Swaggy needs to move the ball. Kobe has mentioned to Swaggy to be more time efficient in creating his own shots. There is a system in place, as noted by their play in the first half.

Whose responsibility is it to calm the team down and not fold under the increased pressure of the opposing team?

If everybody knows that Swaggy is going to dribble the ball for 5-10 seconds and shoot the ball and shoot an outside shot (often a 3pt shot) why should anyone move?

When he was playing with Nash, who demands a doubleteam, Kobe allowed him to initiate the offense. If he had a PG that places consistent pressure and threat, Kobe will be glD to let go - as noted by the few preseason games this year where Nash and Kobe played together
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