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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | LOL at those who couldn't care of him leaving couple years ago. that inability to keep Dwight has same if not more negative impact on Lakers these past couple seasons. you can say whatever you want about Dwight, childish, goofying around but the guy brings 17, 10 and 2 while sleep walking. and i have no doubt we'd be in the talks of most likely landing place for Lilliard, Westbrook, and Rondo right about now had Dwight stayed. |
An accurate description of Dwight's post game |
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Dladi Vidac Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | LOL at those who couldn't care of him leaving couple years ago. that inability to keep Dwight has same if not more negative impact on Lakers these past couple seasons. you can say whatever you want about Dwight, childish, goofying around but the guy brings 17, 10 and 2 while sleep walking. and i have no doubt we'd be in the talks of most likely landing place for Lilliard, Westbrook, and Rondo right about now had Dwight stayed. |
LOL at those who would want a piece of (bleep) weak minded punk ass loser on our team. _________________ "The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.", said Bret Hart regarding the Los Angeles Lakers. |
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Hard_Butter Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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DV cracks me up.... _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
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ocho Retired Number
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Pretty cocky for a guy who is breaking down. |
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lar9149 Star Player
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22 wrote: | I don't know what was more enjoyable, watching Blake sink that game winner in Dwight's face, or watching Lillard sink that 3 and crush his 2nd round dreams |
I am going to choose the latter because that look on Dwights face after the lost to Portland, will... |
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villavs Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | LOL at those who couldn't care of him leaving couple years ago. that inability to keep Dwight has same if not more negative impact on Lakers these past couple seasons. you can say whatever you want about Dwight, childish, goofying around but the guy brings 17, 10 and 2 while sleep walking. and i have no doubt we'd be in the talks of most likely landing place for Lilliard, Westbrook, and Rondo right about now had Dwight stayed. |
I'm not a Dwight fan, but just to add... Dwight was the only one from the Rockets who showed up in last year's playoff series against Portland. If last year's Harden played like this year's Harden (the one who plays defense).. who's to say what could have happened. |
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TheFranchise#24MVP Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Why are we talking about Dwight Howard still? Someone remind me _________________ "Scito Hoc Super Omni, Tempus neminem non manet."
"Know this above all else....Fully use every point, moment, and hour that you have. Time waits for no man...."
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Lakers 4 eva Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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villavs wrote: | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | LOL at those who couldn't care of him leaving couple years ago. that inability to keep Dwight has same if not more negative impact on Lakers these past couple seasons. you can say whatever you want about Dwight, childish, goofying around but the guy brings 17, 10 and 2 while sleep walking. and i have no doubt we'd be in the talks of most likely landing place for Lilliard, Westbrook, and Rondo right about now had Dwight stayed. |
I'm not a Dwight fan, but just to add... Dwight was the only one from the Rockets who showed up in last year's playoff series against Portland. If last year's Harden played like this year's Harden (the one who plays defense).. who's to say what could have happened. |
We'll see about Harden. He has been horrible his whole career in the playoffs. When the whistle disappears, we'll see if Harden shows up. |
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K28 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | I mean, I think I've said worse about this current squad. We can all insult Dwight (it's quite easy), but he did speak the truth. Our team is quite horrific based solely on the amount of potential we have on our roster. |
Well, of course. We're in a completely different position than the Rockets are. We're essentially paying the price for 2 titles (I'm sure Dwight remembers one of those) and 3 straight trips to the Finals. OTOH, Dwight's starting to feel the effects of how Father Time treats you when you don't have much of a skill set, and the Rockets aren't legitimate contenders. |
Just to be clear, we are not where we are because we won two titles.
When are the Spurs going to pay the price for their titles? |
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Lakers 4 eva Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | I mean, I think I've said worse about this current squad. We can all insult Dwight (it's quite easy), but he did speak the truth. Our team is quite horrific based solely on the amount of potential we have on our roster. |
Well, of course. We're in a completely different position than the Rockets are. We're essentially paying the price for 2 titles (I'm sure Dwight remembers one of those) and 3 straight trips to the Finals. OTOH, Dwight's starting to feel the effects of how Father Time treats you when you don't have much of a skill set, and the Rockets aren't legitimate contenders. |
Just to be clear, we are not where we are because we won two titles.
When are the Spurs going to pay the price for their titles? |
When Duncan retires, the ship will be going down with him. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | I mean, I think I've said worse about this current squad. We can all insult Dwight (it's quite easy), but he did speak the truth. Our team is quite horrific based solely on the amount of potential we have on our roster. |
Well, of course. We're in a completely different position than the Rockets are. We're essentially paying the price for 2 titles (I'm sure Dwight remembers one of those) and 3 straight trips to the Finals. OTOH, Dwight's starting to feel the effects of how Father Time treats you when you don't have much of a skill set, and the Rockets aren't legitimate contenders. |
Just to be clear, we are not where we are because we won two titles.
When are the Spurs going to pay the price for their titles? |
Probably in the next year or two, although they've certainly been more sustainable than other teams because of their ability to snag stars in the second half of the 1st Round (Leonard, Parker), which have offset Duncan's decline. They've also been able to keep that core together and acquire quality depth because their stars have been willing to take less, which hasn't been the case in LA. Kobe, Pau, & Howard/Bynum have all made top dollar. We've always been a much more top heavy team as a result. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | LOL at those who couldn't care of him leaving couple years ago. that inability to keep Dwight has same if not more negative impact on Lakers these past couple seasons. you can say whatever you want about Dwight, childish, goofying around but the guy brings 17, 10 and 2 while sleep walking. and i have no doubt we'd be in the talks of most likely landing place for Lilliard, Westbrook, and Rondo right about now had Dwight stayed. |
Addition by subtraction. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | I mean, I think I've said worse about this current squad. We can all insult Dwight (it's quite easy), but he did speak the truth. Our team is quite horrific based solely on the amount of potential we have on our roster. |
Well, of course. We're in a completely different position than the Rockets are. We're essentially paying the price for 2 titles (I'm sure Dwight remembers one of those) and 3 straight trips to the Finals. OTOH, Dwight's starting to feel the effects of how Father Time treats you when you don't have much of a skill set, and the Rockets aren't legitimate contenders. |
Just to be clear, we are not where we are because we won two titles.
When are the Spurs going to pay the price for their titles? |
If you ignore salaries, which you do, then it is apples and oranges comparison. And the Spurs will pay, I think last season's visit to the Finals will be their last in years. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Honeybadger81 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Spurs develop their players, playing with Duncan also helps... Same thing can't be said to a lot of teams... Lakers is semi-decent in this regard. |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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lar9149 wrote: | 22 wrote: | I don't know what was more enjoyable, watching Blake sink that game winner in Dwight's face, or watching Lillard sink that 3 and crush his 2nd round dreams |
I am going to choose the latter because that look on Dwights face after the lost to Portland, will... |
agreed |
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Thugnomoe Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers 4 eva wrote: | villavs wrote: | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | LOL at those who couldn't care of him leaving couple years ago. that inability to keep Dwight has same if not more negative impact on Lakers these past couple seasons. you can say whatever you want about Dwight, childish, goofying around but the guy brings 17, 10 and 2 while sleep walking. and i have no doubt we'd be in the talks of most likely landing place for Lilliard, Westbrook, and Rondo right about now had Dwight stayed. |
I'm not a Dwight fan, but just to add... Dwight was the only one from the Rockets who showed up in last year's playoff series against Portland. If last year's Harden played like this year's Harden (the one who plays defense).. who's to say what could have happened. |
We'll see about Harden. He has been horrible his whole career in the playoffs. When the whistle disappears, we'll see if Harden shows up. |
that's what people don't understand about Harden.. playoff time.. it gets more intense.. touch fouls aren't called as much. so he won't get there 10 times a game like he normally does. i mean.. he leads the league in that category.. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thugnomoe wrote: | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | villavs wrote: | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | LOL at those who couldn't care of him leaving couple years ago. that inability to keep Dwight has same if not more negative impact on Lakers these past couple seasons. you can say whatever you want about Dwight, childish, goofying around but the guy brings 17, 10 and 2 while sleep walking. and i have no doubt we'd be in the talks of most likely landing place for Lilliard, Westbrook, and Rondo right about now had Dwight stayed. |
I'm not a Dwight fan, but just to add... Dwight was the only one from the Rockets who showed up in last year's playoff series against Portland. If last year's Harden played like this year's Harden (the one who plays defense).. who's to say what could have happened. |
We'll see about Harden. He has been horrible his whole career in the playoffs. When the whistle disappears, we'll see if Harden shows up. |
that's what people don't understand about Harden.. playoff time.. it gets more intense.. touch fouls aren't called as much. so he won't get there 10 times a game like he normally does. i mean.. he leads the league in that category.. |
Last season had nothing to do with how the games are called, Harden was definitley muting his game. My guess it was to please their new toy, Dwight Howard. Look where that got them. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thugnomoe wrote: | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | villavs wrote: | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | LOL at those who couldn't care of him leaving couple years ago. that inability to keep Dwight has same if not more negative impact on Lakers these past couple seasons. you can say whatever you want about Dwight, childish, goofying around but the guy brings 17, 10 and 2 while sleep walking. and i have no doubt we'd be in the talks of most likely landing place for Lilliard, Westbrook, and Rondo right about now had Dwight stayed. |
I'm not a Dwight fan, but just to add... Dwight was the only one from the Rockets who showed up in last year's playoff series against Portland. If last year's Harden played like this year's Harden (the one who plays defense).. who's to say what could have happened. |
We'll see about Harden. He has been horrible his whole career in the playoffs. When the whistle disappears, we'll see if Harden shows up. |
that's what people don't understand about Harden.. playoff time.. it gets more intense.. touch fouls aren't called as much. so he won't get there 10 times a game like he normally does. i mean.. he leads the league in that category.. |
Don't get me wrong, I noticed a big difference with Harden now compared to the beginning of this season. He's scoring easier. Making more jumpshots. Beginning of the season, he was shooting like 37% while averaging a ton of FT's. I didn't even know that was possible. Usually, a guy that shoots alot of FT's have a better FG% than he did at the beginning fo this year. He's improved though. Still, like I said, playoffs. |
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K28 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | I mean, I think I've said worse about this current squad. We can all insult Dwight (it's quite easy), but he did speak the truth. Our team is quite horrific based solely on the amount of potential we have on our roster. |
Well, of course. We're in a completely different position than the Rockets are. We're essentially paying the price for 2 titles (I'm sure Dwight remembers one of those) and 3 straight trips to the Finals. OTOH, Dwight's starting to feel the effects of how Father Time treats you when you don't have much of a skill set, and the Rockets aren't legitimate contenders. |
Just to be clear, we are not where we are because we won two titles.
When are the Spurs going to pay the price for their titles? |
Probably in the next year or two, although they've certainly been more sustainable than other teams because of their ability to snag stars in the second half of the 1st Round (Leonard, Parker), which have offset Duncan's decline. They've also been able to keep that core together and acquire quality depth because their stars have been willing to take less, which hasn't been the case in LA. Kobe, Pau, & Howard/Bynum have all made top dollar. We've always been a much more top heavy team as a result. |
The Spurs will keep winning even without their big three. Their entire system is predicated on drafting well and finding great role players who fit their system. |
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akk7 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | I mean, I think I've said worse about this current squad. We can all insult Dwight (it's quite easy), but he did speak the truth. Our team is quite horrific based solely on the amount of potential we have on our roster. |
Well, of course. We're in a completely different position than the Rockets are. We're essentially paying the price for 2 titles (I'm sure Dwight remembers one of those) and 3 straight trips to the Finals. OTOH, Dwight's starting to feel the effects of how Father Time treats you when you don't have much of a skill set, and the Rockets aren't legitimate contenders. |
Just to be clear, we are not where we are because we won two titles.
When are the Spurs going to pay the price for their titles? |
Probably in the next year or two, although they've certainly been more sustainable than other teams because of their ability to snag stars in the second half of the 1st Round (Leonard, Parker), which have offset Duncan's decline. They've also been able to keep that core together and acquire quality depth because their stars have been willing to take less, which hasn't been the case in LA. Kobe, Pau, & Howard/Bynum have all made top dollar. We've always been a much more top heavy team as a result. |
The Spurs will keep winning even without their big three. Their entire system is predicated on drafting well and finding great role players who fit their system. |
It took them 7 years to win their last one. In those 7 years there were a few sweeps, first round exists, choke jobs, etc.
Everyone who keeps harping on the Spurs have very short memories. That's typically what happens when you win a championship though. Expect the same for the Lakers. Hopefully sooner than later. |
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K28 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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akk7 wrote: | kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | I mean, I think I've said worse about this current squad. We can all insult Dwight (it's quite easy), but he did speak the truth. Our team is quite horrific based solely on the amount of potential we have on our roster. |
Well, of course. We're in a completely different position than the Rockets are. We're essentially paying the price for 2 titles (I'm sure Dwight remembers one of those) and 3 straight trips to the Finals. OTOH, Dwight's starting to feel the effects of how Father Time treats you when you don't have much of a skill set, and the Rockets aren't legitimate contenders. |
Just to be clear, we are not where we are because we won two titles.
When are the Spurs going to pay the price for their titles? |
Probably in the next year or two, although they've certainly been more sustainable than other teams because of their ability to snag stars in the second half of the 1st Round (Leonard, Parker), which have offset Duncan's decline. They've also been able to keep that core together and acquire quality depth because their stars have been willing to take less, which hasn't been the case in LA. Kobe, Pau, & Howard/Bynum have all made top dollar. We've always been a much more top heavy team as a result. |
The Spurs will keep winning even without their big three. Their entire system is predicated on drafting well and finding great role players who fit their system. |
It took them 7 years to win their last one. In those 7 years there were a few sweeps, first round exists, choke jobs, etc.
Everyone who keeps harping on the Spurs have very short memories. That's typically what happens when you win a championship though. Expect the same for the Lakers. Hopefully sooner than later. |
By "winning" I meant that they stayed competitive and respectable and didn't fall into the lottery. The Spurs were able to reload without rebuilding. The Lakers thought they could do the same too....but with drastically different results. Whenever they tried to "buy" their way to a championship, the result hasn't been good. |
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Enjoy not ever winning a ring, and having to pay child support out the ass, you (bleep) made loser. |
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thurloly Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Before talking, at least, win something first? |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | kray28_ wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | I mean, I think I've said worse about this current squad. We can all insult Dwight (it's quite easy), but he did speak the truth. Our team is quite horrific based solely on the amount of potential we have on our roster. |
Well, of course. We're in a completely different position than the Rockets are. We're essentially paying the price for 2 titles (I'm sure Dwight remembers one of those) and 3 straight trips to the Finals. OTOH, Dwight's starting to feel the effects of how Father Time treats you when you don't have much of a skill set, and the Rockets aren't legitimate contenders. |
Just to be clear, we are not where we are because we won two titles.
When are the Spurs going to pay the price for their titles? |
If you ignore salaries, which you do, then it is apples and oranges comparison. And the Spurs will pay, I think last season's visit to the Finals will be their last in years. |
If there's one thing I've learned about the Spurs organization the last few years it's never doubt them. The system that they run will always be effective and will always be attractive to free agents imo. |
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leor_77 Franchise Player
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Better to not add fuel to the fire. It will be very hard for Houston to win a title anyway...just let them expose themselves in the playoffs. |
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