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Karmaloop
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| Absolutely. Would be a great gesture by the Lakers. |
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misterrunon
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He can be traded.. everyone who says he can't is spreading FUD. 30 days after claiming a player who is amnestied, a player can be traded.
The problem is that no contender would really want Boozer, because his defense is really, really bad.
Larry Coon said "most likely" in 2011, and I also found a separate source confirming http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/33976/what-we-know-about-the-amnesty-provision
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| misterrunon wrote: | He can be traded.. everyone who says he can't is spreading FUD. 30 days after claiming a player who is amnestied, a player can be traded.
The problem is that no contender would really want Boozer, because his defense is really, really bad. |
Why don't you bring it up with Eric pincus then.
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misterrunon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | misterrunon wrote: | He can be traded.. everyone who says he can't is spreading FUD. 30 days after claiming a player who is amnestied, a player can be traded.
The problem is that no contender would really want Boozer, because his defense is really, really bad. |
Why don't you bring it up with Eric pincus then. |
If he sees this, then let's see him clarify http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/33976/what-we-know-about-the-amnesty-provision |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| misterrunon wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | misterrunon wrote: | He can be traded.. everyone who says he can't is spreading FUD. 30 days after claiming a player who is amnestied, a player can be traded.
The problem is that no contender would really want Boozer, because his defense is really, really bad. |
Why don't you bring it up with Eric pincus then. |
If he sees this, then let's see him clarify http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/33976/what-we-know-about-the-amnesty-provision |
So Larry states that whether the player can be traded hasn't been confirmed. Why not ask larry coon?
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misterrunon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | misterrunon wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | misterrunon wrote: | He can be traded.. everyone who says he can't is spreading FUD. 30 days after claiming a player who is amnestied, a player can be traded.
The problem is that no contender would really want Boozer, because his defense is really, really bad. |
Why don't you bring it up with Eric pincus then. |
If he sees this, then let's see him clarify http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/33976/what-we-know-about-the-amnesty-provision |
So Larry states that whether the player can be traded hasn't been confirmed. Why not ask larry coon? |
this link also confirms it http://allsportseverything.com/2011/12/the-nbas-new-amnesty-clause-explained-cause-youve-asked/
| Quote: | Can teams trade players they’ve claimed via amnesty or are they stuck with them?
Yes, teams can trade their newly acquired players but must wait 30-days before doing so. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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So we have several disputed accounts. Far from settled imo but I've never seen a trade of an amnestied player nor have I heard about it being permitted.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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Is there a deadline for this to happen?
#FREEBOOZE!
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K28
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| If we can trade him for assets we should. Otherwise, your kindness is a weakness. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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No good reason to wave him actually...if we are fortunate and the FO sends Hill out, he could fill a need until next season...
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misterrunon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | | No good reason to wave him actually...if we are fortunate and the FO sends Hill out, he could fill a need until next season... |
no need really. we have tarik, ryan kelly, ed davis, and jordan hill already. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever. |
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Bard207
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I would think this link is both more accurate and more current since Larry maintains the web site.
NBA Salary CAP FAQ
Copyright © 1999-2015, Larry Coon
69. What is the Amnesty provision?
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...The waiving team may not re-sign or re-acquire the player for the length of his contract (which includes seasons following an ETO or option), and the claiming team is prohibited from trading the player until the following July 1. If the player is eventually traded, his new team becomes the claiming team... |
Larry does actively maintain the web site because the terms of the Boozer Amnesty are listed within the same section:
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Team Year Amnestied player Claimed by Bid amount
Chicago 2014 Carlos Boozer LA Lakers $3,251,000
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Axshun
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Voted yes instantly without looking through the thread.
Theres no need for us or reason to keep him if he wants to play anywhere else.
What more is there to say? |
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misterrunon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Axshun wrote: | Voted yes instantly without looking through the thread.
Theres no need for us or reason to keep him if he wants to play anywhere else.
What more is there to say? |
well, we could trade him and possibly get a 2nd rounder.. though it's unlikely. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| misterrunon wrote: | | Axshun wrote: | Voted yes instantly without looking through the thread.
Theres no need for us or reason to keep him if he wants to play anywhere else.
What more is there to say? |
well, we could trade him and possibly get a 2nd rounder.. though it's unlikely. |
Read bard's post above.
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| Bard207 wrote: | I would think this link is both more accurate and more current since Larry maintains the web site.
NBA Salary CAP FAQ
Copyright © 1999-2015, Larry Coon
69. What is the Amnesty provision?
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...The waiving team may not re-sign or re-acquire the player for the length of his contract (which includes seasons following an ETO or option), and the claiming team is prohibited from trading the player until the following July 1. If the player is eventually traded, his new team becomes the claiming team... |
Larry does actively maintain the web site because the terms of the Boozer Amnesty are listed within the same section:
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Team Year Amnestied player Claimed by Bid amount
Chicago 2014 Carlos Boozer LA Lakers $3,251,000
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Boozer CANNOT be traded. This info you posted is the most recent and up to date.
ESPN trade machine also reflects the restriction on Boozer. |
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Bard207
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | So we have several disputed accounts. Far from settled imo but I've never seen a trade of an amnestied player nor have I heard about it being permitted. |
Houston waived Luis Scola in Summer 2012 and Phoenix claimed him.
Scola appeared in 82 games (started 67) for the Suns during the 2012 - 2013 season.
Luis Scola
He was then traded in late July 2013 to the Pacers. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Gotcha so basically a one year moratorium which doesn't apply to boozer.
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Bard207
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Gotcha so basically a one year moratorium which doesn't apply to boozer. |
Yes.
If I was in charge, I would be looking hard at D-League rosters at 4 - 5 types and give Boozer his release so that he would be able to go elsewhere and possibly be in the Playoffs.
The deadline for Boozer to be released and still be eligible for the Playoffs is March 1. So the Lakers still have about a month to work with if they plan on doing that Goodwill gesture for Carlos. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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We can trade him to get a second-round pick?
He is a terrible instability x factor |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I say yes. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Portland might be a good fit for him. |
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| Bard207 wrote: | I would think this link is both more accurate and more current since Larry maintains the web site.
NBA Salary CAP FAQ
Copyright © 1999-2015, Larry Coon
69. What is the Amnesty provision?
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...The waiving team may not re-sign or re-acquire the player for the length of his contract (which includes seasons following an ETO or option), and the claiming team is prohibited from trading the player until the following July 1. If the player is eventually traded, his new team becomes the claiming team... |
Larry does actively maintain the web site because the terms of the Boozer Amnesty are listed within the same section:
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Team Year Amnestied player Claimed by Bid amount
Chicago 2014 Carlos Boozer LA Lakers $3,251,000
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Thank you Bard. That is the correct citation.
FYI: There is no dispute. Eric is careful and Larry is generous with his time. Eric will clear any matter impacted by the CBA with Larry. |
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Charisma
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| But do we have enough healthy bodies to get through the season? |
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