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A 51-55 pick is unlikely to amount to anything besides another Sacre, but if we can get 3 picks in the top 35 (one top 5, one top 20, etc) then we'll look a lot better next year. Especially if we unload our terrible players, keep the serviceable ones, and sign an FA or two. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Don Draper wrote: | A 51-55 pick is unlikely to amount to anything besides another Sacre, but if we can get 3 picks in the top 35 (one top 5, one top 20, etc) then we'll look a lot better next year. Especially if we unload our terrible players, keep the serviceable ones, and sign an FA or two. |
I think that great Tankathon site (which I hope to never have to visit again after this season) had the Lakers at #4 in terms of its "power rankings," which aggregates the value of the picks. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Troublesome626 Star Player
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you should join the discussion in the team tank thread there is panic basically every time we win a game lol _________________
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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That top 5 has to count this year. We need to find someone who can be something special and it's going to come down to combine/interview/individual workouts. I have a feeling that we may pick someone like hezonja. I've read somewhere that he's a lot like kobe in that he's introverted, obsessed with perfecting his game, and doesn't have a life outside of basketball. From what I read that's where all the reports of him having an "attitude" come from. If any of this is true and he test out athletically, I think he may be our guy. Personally, I don't know much about him other that some highlights on YouTube. Any input would be appreciated. |
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jjangx27 Star Player
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Yea all of this has already been discussed extensively |
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:46 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | A 51-55 pick is unlikely to amount to anything besides another Sacre, but if we can get 3 picks in the top 35 (one top 5, one top 20, etc) then we'll look a lot better next year. Especially if we unload our terrible players, keep the serviceable ones, and sign an FA or two. |
I think that great Tankathon site (which I hope to never have to visit again after this season) had the Lakers at #4 in terms of its "power rankings," which aggregates the value of the picks. |
Actually we were #2 for a large part of the year but have been #3 since Minnesota got the #1 seed _________________ Kobe |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Chronicle wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | A 51-55 pick is unlikely to amount to anything besides another Sacre, but if we can get 3 picks in the top 35 (one top 5, one top 20, etc) then we'll look a lot better next year. Especially if we unload our terrible players, keep the serviceable ones, and sign an FA or two. |
I think that great Tankathon site (which I hope to never have to visit again after this season) had the Lakers at #4 in terms of its "power rankings," which aggregates the value of the picks. |
Actually we were #2 for a large part of the year but have been #3 since Minnesota got the #1 seed |
I think we have a chance to move ahead of the 76ers/Knicks. If we can get that 2nd worst record... _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Oliver Reed Star Player
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Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
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Nick the Quick Starting Rotation
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Don Draper wrote: | A 51-55 pick is unlikely to amount to anything besides another Sacre, but if we can get 3 picks in the top 35 (one top 5, one top 20, etc) then we'll look a lot better next year. Especially if we unload our terrible players, keep the serviceable ones, and sign an FA or two. |
the 51-55 pick (if we even get it), should be used on an overseas guys who is raw and that you can keep developing for a few years. if he ends up being decent in a couple years, then you've essentially gotten value out of the pick. if not, then oh well, it was a late 2nd to begin with. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
Top 4.
Worst record-no worse than #4.
2nd worst: no worse than #5...BINGO
3rd worst: no worse than #6... _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Nick the Quick wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | A 51-55 pick is unlikely to amount to anything besides another Sacre, but if we can get 3 picks in the top 35 (one top 5, one top 20, etc) then we'll look a lot better next year. Especially if we unload our terrible players, keep the serviceable ones, and sign an FA or two. |
the 51-55 pick (if we even get it), should be used on an overseas guys who is raw and that you can keep developing for a few years. if he ends up being decent in a couple years, then you've essentially gotten value out of the pick. if not, then oh well, it was a late 2nd to begin with. |
What's Ater Majok's brother doing these days? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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jjangx27 Star Player
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Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
No. Top 4 |
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Clarkson was #46 _________________ Kobe |
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Nick the Quick Starting Rotation
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Nick the Quick wrote: | Don Draper wrote: | A 51-55 pick is unlikely to amount to anything besides another Sacre, but if we can get 3 picks in the top 35 (one top 5, one top 20, etc) then we'll look a lot better next year. Especially if we unload our terrible players, keep the serviceable ones, and sign an FA or two. |
the 51-55 pick (if we even get it), should be used on an overseas guys who is raw and that you can keep developing for a few years. if he ends up being decent in a couple years, then you've essentially gotten value out of the pick. if not, then oh well, it was a late 2nd to begin with. |
What's Ater Majok's brother doing these days? |
haha, fair enough. but you can't bring in 4 rookies, 5 if you include randle.
might as well let them sit overseas.
the only other reasonable option w/ that pick is to trade it for a future 2nd rounder. |
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Oliver Reed Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:59 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
Top 4.
Worst record-no worse than #4.
2nd worst: no worse than #5...BINGO
3rd worst: no worse than #6... |
Man, i am not wired to want to lose. But, we need that 2nd or 1st. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
Top 4.
Worst record-no worse than #4.
2nd worst: no worse than #5...BINGO
3rd worst: no worse than #6... |
Man, i am not wired to want to lose. But, we need that 2nd or 1st. |
With a few trades, we can get to 2nd worst IMO. Philly/Knicks may start winning more games than us. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Oliver Reed Star Player
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:06 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
Top 4.
Worst record-no worse than #4.
2nd worst: no worse than #5...BINGO
3rd worst: no worse than #6... |
Man, i am not wired to want to lose. But, we need that 2nd or 1st. |
With a few trades, we can get to 2nd worst IMO. Philly/Knicks may start winning more games than us. |
Ok, so, I know if the Lakers get the top 5 pick, the draft pick that went to Phoenix drops to 2016, what happens then? |
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Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
Top 4.
Worst record-no worse than #4.
2nd worst: no worse than #5...BINGO
3rd worst: no worse than #6... |
Man, i am not wired to want to lose. But, we need that 2nd or 1st. |
With a few trades, we can get to 2nd worst IMO. Philly/Knicks may start winning more games than us. |
Ok, so, I know if the Lakers get the top 5 pick, the draft pick that went to Phoenix drops to 2016, what happens then? |
Top 3 protected in 2016. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Oliver Reed Star Player
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
Top 4.
Worst record-no worse than #4.
2nd worst: no worse than #5...BINGO
3rd worst: no worse than #6... |
Man, i am not wired to want to lose. But, we need that 2nd or 1st. |
With a few trades, we can get to 2nd worst IMO. Philly/Knicks may start winning more games than us. |
Ok, so, I know if the Lakers get the top 5 pick, the draft pick that went to Phoenix drops to 2016, what happens then? |
Top 3 protected in 2016. |
(bleep). That one might be gone. Jesus, who the hell agreed to this crap? |
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I would like to buy a later 2nd round pick and go for Rakeem Christmas, I think he would be a decent trade chip in a couple of years. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
Top 4.
Worst record-no worse than #4.
2nd worst: no worse than #5...BINGO
3rd worst: no worse than #6... |
Man, i am not wired to want to lose. But, we need that 2nd or 1st. |
With a few trades, we can get to 2nd worst IMO. Philly/Knicks may start winning more games than us. |
Ok, so, I know if the Lakers get the top 5 pick, the draft pick that went to Phoenix drops to 2016, what happens then? |
Top 3 protected in 2016. |
(bleep). That one might be gone. Jesus, who the hell agreed to this crap? |
AGREED, the FO royally screwed up on both of those picks.
If we qualify to keep the 2016 pick we will be mired in mediocrity for many years to come. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Oliver Reed wrote: | Is it true if you have the worst record int he league, you are guaranteed to be in the top 3? |
Top 4.
Worst record-no worse than #4.
2nd worst: no worse than #5...BINGO
3rd worst: no worse than #6... |
Man, i am not wired to want to lose. But, we need that 2nd or 1st. |
With a few trades, we can get to 2nd worst IMO. Philly/Knicks may start winning more games than us. |
Ok, so, I know if the Lakers get the top 5 pick, the draft pick that went to Phoenix drops to 2016, what happens then? |
Top 3 protected in 2016. |
(bleep). That one might be gone. Jesus, who the hell agreed to this crap? |
I'm not happy about the draft protections, but remember at the time the deal was made, we basically had kobe/pau/Dwight/nash/Jamison/hill/meeks. So not much reason to think in the next 2 years we would be in the situation we are now.
But at least if 2015 is another devastating year, we will have 3 shots at keeping the pick, however remote that is. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | I would like to buy a later 2nd round pick and go for Rakeem Christmas, I think he would be a decent trade chip in a couple of years. |
NBADraft.net currently has the Lakers selecting Rakeem Christmas with the 34th pick. |
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onthedownlow Sixth Man
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I doubt we could do it, but if we can, I would gladly deal pick 34 and the Houston pick to move up to get Grant from Notre Dame. He's a do it all player with a great B-Ball IQ. |
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