I am disappointed in Russells performance against Arizona more than anyone, but I cannot and will not say Kris Dunn is a better prospect than him.
I don't think anyone is saying that. The debate is more Mudiay Vs. Dunn. Their games are much more similar. Dunn and Russell would actually compliment each other greatly. since they both excel where the other doesnt. Dunn has athleticism and the potential for defense, Russell has the shooting that most think Dunn lacks. If the lakers do indeed lose the top 5 pick, then I would definitely look to package the remaining picks together and move up to the 12-18 range to draft Dunn. But anyways, this should be debated once Dunn actually declares for the draft
I have Houston with 5 very losable games: Spurs (2x), Pelicans, Mavericks, and OKC
That could effectively drop them from the 27th pick to the 23rd. That would be absolutely huge. Cheering for Orlando to win every game, and cheering for the Rockets to lose. I think the best that Rockets pick turns out to be is 23, and you can definitely find a solid prospect there
Lakers are currently 4th from the bottom of the standings which doesn't give much insight to the lottery order except for odds. Looking through the past 5 drafts, the 4th place team had the following outcomes: 2014 (6th), 2013 (5th), 2012 (4th), 2011 (6th), and 2010 (6th). This translates to the 4th place team following out of the top5 - 3 out of 5.
Disregarding the extremely small sample size, if the Lakers lose the top5 pick, what should the absolute priority or next step be for the lakers?
I am disappointed in Russells performance against Arizona more than anyone, but I cannot and will not say Kris Dunn is a better prospect than him.
I don't think anyone is saying that. The debate is more Mudiay Vs. Dunn. Their games are much more similar. Dunn and Russell would actually compliment each other greatly. since they both excel where the other doesnt. Dunn has athleticism and the potential for defense, Russell has the shooting that most think Dunn lacks. If the lakers do indeed lose the top 5 pick, then I would definitely look to package the remaining picks together and move up to the 12-18 range to draft Dunn. But anyways, this should be debated once Dunn actually declares for the draft
I'd agree - I don't think Mudiay is top 5 at the moment. Though admittedly his stock is at an all time low because the other guys in the conversation are playing well in the tournament (WCS, Winslow) and Hezonja has also been getting a good amount of hype.
Lakers are currently 4th from the bottom of the standings which doesn't give much insight to the lottery order except for odds. Looking through the past 5 drafts, the 4th place team had the following outcomes: 2014 (6th), 2013 (5th), 2012 (4th), 2011 (6th), and 2010 (6th). This translates to the 4th place team following out of the top5 - 3 out of 5.
Disregarding the extremely small sample size, if the Lakers lose the top5 pick, what should the absolute priority or next step be for the lakers?
Obviously the priority next step would be nailing the Houston pick. Then after that would be getting a superstar in free agency.
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Laker_Lifer_25 wrote:
Lakers are currently 4th from the bottom of the standings which doesn't give much insight to the lottery order except for odds. Looking through the past 5 drafts, the 4th place team had the following outcomes: 2014 (6th), 2013 (5th), 2012 (4th), 2011 (6th), and 2010 (6th). This translates to the 4th place team following out of the top5 - 3 out of 5.
Disregarding the extremely small sample size, if the Lakers lose the top5 pick, what should the absolute priority or next step be for the lakers?
Obviously the priority next step would be nailing the Houston pick. Then after that would be getting a superstar in free agency.
The immediate priority would be to draft well with the picks you have, and to get maximum value in free agency. That might mean a star, but in the short term it might also be some combination of impact, value, and depth. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
I'm really starting to like George Lucus. I didn't like him much at first but his handle is legit and he's a true pg. Okafor and lucus with the first two picks would be amazing. Maybe grab luuwawu with the second rounder
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I would love to gamble on Lucas or Upshaw with the Houston pick. Either one could result in tremendous value in the next 2-3 seasons. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
I'm really starting to like George Lucus. I didn't like him much at first but his handle is legit and he's a true pg. Okafor and lucus with the first two picks would be amazing. Maybe grab luuwawu with the second rounder
Theres a picture of him on his draft express page where his arms damn near hang down to the floor lol. And extremely long foreign players seems to be the correct way to gamble in the draft nowadays, judging from the success of Gobert qnd Giannis. So, I'm all for it as long as we keep our top 5. If not, I'd rather try to get more of a sure thing
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I'm really starting to like George Lucus. I didn't like him much at first but his handle is legit and he's a true pg. Okafor and lucus with the first two picks would be amazing. Maybe grab luuwawu with the second rounder
Theres a picture of him on his draft express page where his arms damn near hang down to the floor lol. And extremely long foreign players seems to be the correct way to gamble in the draft nowadays, judging from the success of Gobert qnd Giannis. So, I'm all for it as long as we keep our top 5. If not, I'd rather try to get more of a sure thing
Imagine hving a pg with a 7'1 wingspan 😳 and okafor behind him with a 7'6 wingspan
my lakers have become the new raiders. shocked we are on the verge of losing our pick by just few wins that easily could have been losses 3 pick would have been lock to keep the pick. now we have a 50/50 shot at best. next year we will have randle, a free agent or two, kobe back, young players getting better. we will be bad non playoffs but not bottom 3 bad.. the current system of how hard it is to land star players you have to draft them. its so hard to watch the lakers suck and play meaningless ball. 3 years in a row really
Hopefully we keep our pick and draft Mudiay/Winslow and Upshaw with our Houston pick, the more I read about Upshaw the more I think he's the 3rd best center in this draft, hopefully he matures..
my lakers have become the new raiders. shocked we are on the verge of losing our pick by just few wins that easily could have been losses 3 pick would have been lock to keep the pick. now we have a 50/50 shot at best. next year we will have randle, a free agent or two, kobe back, young players getting better. we will be bad non playoffs but not bottom 3 bad.. the current system of how hard it is to land star players you have to draft them. its so hard to watch the lakers suck and play meaningless ball. 3 years in a row really
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I noticed that in 2K15 drafts, Hezonja nearly always has the highest rating and is usually the default #1 pick. Thought it was a fluke, but now I'm hearing his name thrown around in real life more often.
my lakers have become the new raiders. shocked we are on the verge of losing our pick by just few wins that easily could have been losses 3 pick would have been lock to keep the pick. now we have a 50/50 shot at best. next year we will have randle, a free agent or two, kobe back, young players getting better. we will be bad non playoffs but not bottom 3 bad.. the current system of how hard it is to land star players you have to draft them. its so hard to watch the lakers suck and play meaningless ball. 3 years in a row really
Not 50/50 we keep it.
Also, 3 spot does not guarantee we keep it...we can drop up to 3 spots, so 3rd could drop to 6th.
my lakers have become the new raiders. shocked we are on the verge of losing our pick by just few wins that easily could have been losses 3 pick would have been lock to keep the pick. now we have a 50/50 shot at best. next year we will have randle, a free agent or two, kobe back, young players getting better. we will be bad non playoffs but not bottom 3 bad.. the current system of how hard it is to land star players you have to draft them. its so hard to watch the lakers suck and play meaningless ball. 3 years in a row really
Not 50/50 we keep it.
Also, 3 spot does not guarantee we keep it...we can drop up to 3 spots, so 3rd could drop to 6th.
3rd CAN drop to 6th, but that scenario is highly UNLIKELY. Your pretty safe at 3. At four there is a reasonable chance that you drop out of the top 5, and at 5, forget about it. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest
https://www.youtube.com/embed/S5z8CwpEkNI Porzingis vs. Barcelona 2 days ago.. ... He put on 3 pounds.. Looks like a smooth criminal. Wish we didn't already have a future all star Pf
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uLrPWbWkzy0# Here's the full game (first half) and 20 seconds into the game they mention Mitch Kupchack "manager de Los Lakers" .. Uh, my Spanish speaking freinds, what else did they say?
Good game for Mitch to watch, Hezonja vs Porzingis. Assuming Hezonja was allowed to play this time
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3 pick would have been lock to keep the pick. now we have a 50/50 shot at best. next year we will have randle, a free agent or two, kobe back, young players getting better. we will be bad non playoffs but not bottom 3 bad.. the current system of how hard it is to land star players you have to draft them. its so hard to watch the lakers suck and play meaningless ball. 3 years in a row really
