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What color is it?
Blue and Black
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White and Gold
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:43 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
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This sounds like the color theory lesson from an art class I took a long time ago. The lighting and exposure makes it hard to determine what color it's supposed to be in real life. Take a photo of, say, a blue bucket in a cool- or dimly-lit setting, color pick the bucket in Photoshop or MS Paint, and some or most of the object might be green, brown or gray.

If you color-pick the photo, the dress is "brown" and "pale blue." The rod/cone stuff sounds like nonsense "Facebook science" to me. When your brain processes the information your rods and cones picked up, your experience says that the pale blue and brown could mean a white and gold dress on an overcast day, or blue and black on a bright, sunny day.


I was teaching color theory and freaking students out with color tricks like this.


This is less an issue of color theory and more an issue of light. Color theory is based on how colors relate to each other - Primary Colors, Secondary Colors and Tertiary Colors all react differently when combined together. They can enhance each other when placed side by side, but as they are mixed together they increasingly grow darker and less colorful.

Then there is the added element of Additive Color versus Subtractive Color. The print worlds is about mixing inks/pigments etc. subtractively. When creating an image on a canvas, you typically work from light to dark. You can easily make your image get darker, but building light out of the darkness that has already been laid down is increasingly difficult as the process goes on. The print world has a subtractive process. The more color you add, the darker and muddier things get. Whether it is painting and combining pigments or the print world where everything is based on a CMYK (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black), combining things means darker and less definitive color.

Additive color results from the combination of light. In that world colors are created by adding brightness to colors in the RGB (Red, Green, Blue) spectrum. Color starts at black because no color of light has been added. As you add color from the three spectrums, you build color.

This particular illusion is not about color theory. It's about perception of light. Everyone who has seen this debate has done so from a computer, which by definition is an addictive color world. It's also an artificial world in that is is dictated by the light source it emanates from and the fact that humans are adapting to this world where Additive Light is a factor thanks to artificial light sources.

Our collective brains are still trying to adapt to seeing color and light portrayed in ways that were't possible a century ago.

The bottom line is that if we all saw the dress in our natural world, outside of those with color blindness, we would all see it the same.



Exactly, and for us, it's a whole nother ball game.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:05 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
Reflexx wrote:
PrairieAve wrote:
This sounds like the color theory lesson from an art class I took a long time ago. The lighting and exposure makes it hard to determine what color it's supposed to be in real life. Take a photo of, say, a blue bucket in a cool- or dimly-lit setting, color pick the bucket in Photoshop or MS Paint, and some or most of the object might be green, brown or gray.

If you color-pick the photo, the dress is "brown" and "pale blue." The rod/cone stuff sounds like nonsense "Facebook science" to me. When your brain processes the information your rods and cones picked up, your experience says that the pale blue and brown could mean a white and gold dress on an overcast day, or blue and black on a bright, sunny day.


I was teaching color theory and freaking students out with color tricks like this.


This is less an issue of color theory and more an issue of light. Color theory is based on how colors relate to each other - Primary Colors, Secondary Colors and Tertiary Colors all react differently when combined together. They can enhance each other when placed side by side, but as they are mixed together they increasingly grow darker and less colorful.

Then there is the added element of Additive Color versus Subtractive Color. The print worlds is about mixing inks/pigments etc. subtractively. When creating an image on a canvas, you typically work from light to dark. You can easily make your image get darker, but building light out of the darkness that has already been laid down is increasingly difficult as the process goes on. The print world has a subtractive process. The more color you add, the darker and muddier things get. Whether it is painting and combining pigments or the print world where everything is based on a CMYK (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black), combining things means darker and less definitive color.

Additive color results from the combination of light. In that world colors are created by adding brightness to colors in the RGB (Red, Green, Blue) spectrum. Color starts at black because no color of light has been added. As you add color from the three spectrums, you build color.

This particular illusion is not about color theory. It's about perception of light. Everyone who has seen this debate has done so from a computer, which by definition is an addictive color world. It's also an artificial world in that is is dictated by the light source it emanates from and the fact that humans are adapting to this world where Additive Light is a factor thanks to artificial light sources.

Our collective brains are still trying to adapt to seeing color and light portrayed in ways that were't possible a century ago.

The bottom line is that if we all saw the dress in our natural world, outside of those with color blindness, we would all see it the same.


I include some lectures on light because I feel that it helps to understand why we see anything at all.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:40 pm    Post subject:

Pretty good article on it here:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:16 pm    Post subject:

LarryCoon wrote:
Pretty good article on it here:

LINK


Pretty cool.

The colors I saw are exactly the same as the "Dress stripes, out of context" illustration. Dingy powder blue and puke brown/gold. I have to squint fairly hard to loose enough detail for the brown highlights to smear into a black band but it does.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:03 pm    Post subject:

LarryCoon wrote:
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Larry quoting Taylor swift. This place has gone to hell!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 11:29 am    Post subject:

Definitely black and blue
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:36 pm    Post subject:

xxsicrokerxx wrote:
Definitely black and blue


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:39 pm    Post subject:

Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
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Definitely black and blue


dead memes = best memes


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
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xxsicrokerxx wrote:
Definitely black and blue


dead memes = best memes


Yanni.


You mean Laurel.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:05 am    Post subject:

It's still black n blue.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:12 am    Post subject:

four years later and I still can't see anything besides white and gold, even though I know it's wrong
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