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Lakerfan 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:29 pm Post subject: Report: George Karl Controls Kings’ Personnel, Wants Ty Lawson, Willing To Move DeMarcus Cousins |
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Quote: | George Karl's first power move as Sacramento Kings coach was to trade for Andre Miller, a trusted old hand from his Denver days. Expect more of the same this summer. Sources say Karl would love to acquire Ty Lawson—if the rebuilding Nuggets were to make him available—or any other members of his last Nuggets team, which won 57 games in 2012-13. Karl wants players who move the ball and push the tempo, and that could mean wild upheaval on the Kings roster. Even DeMarcus Cousins, their franchise center, is not untouchable, according to a source with insight into Karl's thinking. "At the trade deadline, everyone was available," the person said. Including Cousins? "Every single person (on the Kings roster) was available." Although Karl does not hold a front office title, "he definitely has control" of future personnel decisions, the source said. |
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2378041-nba-insider-is-it-numbers-or-talent-sorting-fact-fiction-in-nba-stats-wave |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Don't want Demarcus. Hopefully someone else gets him should he be available |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:50 am Post subject: |
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Um I will GLADLY take Cousins off their hands. He gets dinged up and has an attitude, but he has talent and produces. You don't just get a 24pt/12reb/2blk/3ast/1.5stl center available to you....at all. His shooting is down a bit and he turns it over some, but LA is the environment he needs, even if it takes Kobe slapping it into him in practice. I'd be interested to see what it would take to land him, he does have a contract in the 15-16 range the next few years. |
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:44 am Post subject: |
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I'll take Cousins. Have Kobe be his mentor ... Shaq 2.0 _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 35946 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:42 am Post subject: |
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It's been proven that Kobe isn't the right mentor for everyone. Howard was just childish, but Cousins takes it to another level. |
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70sdude Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | It's been proven that Kobe isn't the right mentor for everyone. Howard was just childish, but Cousins takes it to another level. |
I notice that winning hasn't followed Cousins wherever he's been but that locker room discord that he causes - has. We want that, and at some high price ? Noooooooo. |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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Like I said, it's an affordable deal in the range of 15-16/yr so he's worth the gamble as you'd still have a lot of room left with the new cap. Just think of who else you could put around Cousins. The big question is just how much you'd have to give up. |
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Tony Anapolis Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:28 am Post subject: |
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I want him, three way deal...
LAL/DEN/SAC
Sac receives: Ty Lawson, K. Faried, Kelly, HOU pick
Den receives: Stauskas, Collison, Top 5 pick,
Lakers receive: Cousins, Nelson
Karl gets what he want Ty, Faried, ,a player that fits his system (Kelly). Don't forget they have a nice lottery pick this year as well: WCS? Ty,Mclemore, Gay, Faried, WCS? That's a George Karl team
Den gets a bunch of assets for their two players, LA 2nd rounder. Have their own lottery pick: Porzingis? Mudiay/Stauskas/Chandler/Porzingis/Nurkic
LAL get Cousins, Nelson And have their 2nd rounders. Clarkson/Kobe/T.Harris/Randle/Cousins |
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Tony Anapolis Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:14 am Post subject: |
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70sdude wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | It's been proven that Kobe isn't the right mentor for everyone. Howard was just childish, but Cousins takes it to another level. |
I notice that winning hasn't followed Cousins wherever he's been but that locker room discord that he causes - has. We want that, and at some high price ? Noooooooo. |
Kentucky went 35-3 when cousins went there. That is pretty good.
He was way better than Karl Anthony Towns as well. |
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ozzie Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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70sdude wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | It's been proven that Kobe isn't the right mentor for everyone. Howard was just childish, but Cousins takes it to another level. |
I notice that winning hasn't followed Cousins wherever he's been but that locker room discord that he causes - has. We want that, and at some high price ? Noooooooo. |
Locker room discord? When, where? His issues are on the court. By all accounts he's a good guy behind the scenes. As well the community. |
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The Shadow King Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Tony Anapolis wrote: | I want him, three way deal...
LAL/DEN/SAC
Sac receives: Ty Lawson, K. Faried, Kelly, HOU pick
Den receives: Stauskas, Collison, Top 5 pick,
Lakers receive: Cousins, Nelson
Karl gets what he want Ty, Faried, ,a player that fits his system (Kelly). Don't forget they have a nice lottery pick this year as well: WCS? Ty,Mclemore, Gay, Faried, WCS? That's a George Karl team
Den gets a bunch of assets for their two players, LA 2nd rounder. Have their own lottery pick: Porzingis? Mudiay/Stauskas/Chandler/Porzingis/Nurkic
LAL get Cousins, Nelson And have their 2nd rounders. Clarkson/Kobe/T.Harris/Randle/Cousins |
No. _________________ Lakers, today. Lakers, tomorrow. Lakers, forever. |
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Dladi Vidac Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Give me Cousins. I'm sick and tired of all these wimps. _________________ "The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.", said Bret Hart regarding the Los Angeles Lakers. |
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Sting Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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trade houston and 2nd rounder ed davis for lawson
flip lawson and top 5 pick for cousins
Cousins
Randle
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Kobe
Clarkson |
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Lakers lotto pick to Denver
Denver sends Ty Lawson to Kings
Kings send DumbMarcus to Lakers
BOOM _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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captain jack Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:32 am Post subject: |
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The Faceman wrote: | Tony Anapolis wrote: | I want him, three way deal...
LAL/DEN/SAC
Sac receives: Ty Lawson, K. Faried, Kelly, HOU pick
Den receives: Stauskas, Collison, Top 5 pick,
Lakers receive: Cousins, Nelson
Karl gets what he want Ty, Faried, ,a player that fits his system (Kelly). Don't forget they have a nice lottery pick this year as well: WCS? Ty,Mclemore, Gay, Faried, WCS? That's a George Karl team
Den gets a bunch of assets for their two players, LA 2nd rounder. Have their own lottery pick: Porzingis? Mudiay/Stauskas/Chandler/Porzingis/Nurkic
LAL get Cousins, Nelson And have their 2nd rounders. Clarkson/Kobe/T.Harris/Randle/Cousins |
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Yes. |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:07 am Post subject: |
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captain jack wrote: | The Faceman wrote: | Tony Anapolis wrote: | I want him, three way deal...
LAL/DEN/SAC
Sac receives: Ty Lawson, K. Faried, Kelly, HOU pick
Den receives: Stauskas, Collison, Top 5 pick,
Lakers receive: Cousins, Nelson
Karl gets what he want Ty, Faried, ,a player that fits his system (Kelly). Don't forget they have a nice lottery pick this year as well: WCS? Ty,Mclemore, Gay, Faried, WCS? That's a George Karl team
Den gets a bunch of assets for their two players, LA 2nd rounder. Have their own lottery pick: Porzingis? Mudiay/Stauskas/Chandler/Porzingis/Nurkic
LAL get Cousins, Nelson And have their 2nd rounders. Clarkson/Kobe/T.Harris/Randle/Cousins |
No. |
Yes. |
No thanks. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: |
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22 wrote: | captain jack wrote: | The Faceman wrote: | Tony Anapolis wrote: | I want him, three way deal...
LAL/DEN/SAC
Sac receives: Ty Lawson, K. Faried, Kelly, HOU pick
Den receives: Stauskas, Collison, Top 5 pick,
Lakers receive: Cousins, Nelson
Karl gets what he want Ty, Faried, ,a player that fits his system (Kelly). Don't forget they have a nice lottery pick this year as well: WCS? Ty,Mclemore, Gay, Faried, WCS? That's a George Karl team
Den gets a bunch of assets for their two players, LA 2nd rounder. Have their own lottery pick: Porzingis? Mudiay/Stauskas/Chandler/Porzingis/Nurkic
LAL get Cousins, Nelson And have their 2nd rounders. Clarkson/Kobe/T.Harris/Randle/Cousins |
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No thanks. |
A lot of players and moving pieces, but in this hypothetical, I'm fairly certain the Lakers would gladly move all their draft picks for Cousins. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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CBaller8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers give up: Hill, Ed Davis, top 5, 2nd rd Houston 1st
Lakers get: Cousins, Denver 1st
Denver gives up: Lawson, 1st rd
Denver gets: Collison, Ed Davis, 2nd rd, Houston 1st
Sac gives up: Collison, Cousins
Sac gets: Hill, Ty Lawson, LAL top 5 |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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CBaller8 wrote: | Lakers give up: Hill, Ed Davis, top 5, 2nd rd Houston 1st
Lakers get: Cousins, Denver 1st
Denver gives up: Lawson, 1st rd
Denver gets: Collison, Ed Davis, 2nd rd, Houston 1st
Sac gives up: Collison, Cousins
Sac gets: Hill, Ty Lawson, LAL top 5 |
Doubtful that George Karl would be thrilled to have Hill at $9 million next season.
Does Ed Davis want to go to Denver and does Denver want him?
Pre Lottery, the Lakers are picking at #4 and the Nuggets are picking at #8.
Doubtful that Denver would be interested in sending out both Lawson and and their Mid Lottery pick for the package that you have suggested. |
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a2j1m Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers get: 6th and 7th picks
Kings get: 3rd pick, 26th pick, Ty Lawson, Tarik Black, and Ryan Kelly
Nuggets get: Demarcus Cousins |
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lugo175 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: |
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man COUSINS for 15mil next season is a deal
he's a head case but still can ball with the right coach
just have to work with him |
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