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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:56 pm Post subject: BUCKS -at- LAKERS - 2-27-15 - DIY Thoughts and :-)) Ratings |
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Sorry couldn't cover the game tonight, so it's DIY NIGHT. Post your recap comments here. |
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Charisma Starting Rotation
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Shaber Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, bugger. Was waiting for this...
But hey, we have a winning streak! Must be the first this year...!
Party time! _________________ .
Lakers depth chart
PG Johnson / Goodrich
SG Bryant / West / Scott
SF Baylor / Worthy / Cooper
PF Mikkelsen / Hairston / McAdoo / Gasol
C Chamberlain / Abdul-Jabbar / O'Neal / Mikan |
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fafan Star Player
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Taco day _________________ "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." --Sarah Cook. |
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Alright guys, trying to contribute ... It is a LAL game that I watched live for extended period after a long hiatus. Our guards played well tonight, heck almost every one played well. We are very short of 8 players hitting double figures -- Kelly and Davis got 8 a piece. JC - 16, Lin, WE, & J Hill - 14, Sacre - 12, Boozer - 10 . Lin and JC had a few nice 1 2 play. Lin found WE a few times towards the end of 4th. WE was 0-4 in the first half but getting red hot towards the end. He credited Lin for finding him. My favorite assist was probably Lin found WE for a wide open corner 3 with a very good vision. Lin also found J Hill for a dunk and Davis a few times with penetration pass. Davis missed converting a Lin assist by dribbling after the pass. A very enjoyable game, unless you are a
In the tradition, adding a few more emoticons after the writing ... _________________ "We have a lot of guys that have been kinda discarded ... Myself with the injury and the age. Jeremy ... a bunch of players who other teams really felt they had no use for. So we have that kind of attitude built into ourselves" -- Kobe Bryant |
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A Mad Chinaman Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:36 am Post subject: |
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The ball was moving and not sticking in anyone's hands (interesting the ball movement was happening without Swaggy P).
Even though the intensity was similar to a preseason game, it did provide an opportunity for the team to learn how to effectively play together to win games
Ed Davis was a beast
JLin might be better as a combo/SG
Ellington is firepower coming off the bench that can help in multiple ways
Clarkson continues to be a pleasant surprise
Johnson must have played in the game since he scored some points
What is happening with Black |
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fiendishoc Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:14 am Post subject: |
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- The Bucks started the game stagnant on offense. Their poor shooting let the Lakers pack the inside without consequence, and led to a lot of transition opportunities which Kelly, Clarkson and Boozer converted. For the 1st quarter they shot 26%.
- Clarkson continued his game by game improvement as a PG, confidently knocking down pull up jumpers off of screens, and even throwing a few bullet passes to get the ball inside. He kept his composure throughout and only made a few mistakes, and at times looked like the most skilled player on the floor.
- When Lin came in, he burned the rookie Ennis on a couple of drives. Later, Lin was reading the defense beautifully on the pick and roll. He found Ellington with a perfect cross court pass in the shooting pocket right at the exact instant when Dudley helped on a roll. The Bucks like to tag the roll man early with the weak side wing, but Lin and Davis simply didn't care and would keep heading inside, with Lin finding Ed inside a few times this way. He led the team with a +19 on/off.
- Wes had pretty much the opposite of his game against the Celtics. He threw quite a few questionable passes, and generally didn't look good putting the ball on the floor. However, he did have a run out dunk to seal the game.
- Hill didn't have a good shooting game, but he helped the team by going inside, coming up with several offensive rebounds. He also was working the baseline this time, freeing up space for the guards to penetrate.
- Boozer was solid as always, getting some important buckets when the team got out of rhythm.
- Ellington was cold all game, before absolutely catching fire in the 4th. A transition bucket and a wide open 3 got him going and after that, he was nailing jumpers off screens.
- The game seesawed back and forth with Milwaukee coming from behind to take a double digit lead behind Plumlee's energy. Eventually they closed the game similarly to the way they started, throwing up a lot of bricks, while the Lakers rode Ellington's shooting and Hill's hustle, as well as scoring on fast breaks to close it out. |
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ADA32 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Interesting development!
1. Clarkson helping to lead his team to a win - even if he's on the bench at the end - is a positive part of his development as a player and BScott's plan.
2. Wellington got super hot in 4Q and Lin combo seems work well.
3. Like to se more Clark/Lin push the ball.
4. How about a 3 guard rotation of Lin, Clarkson, and Ellington for an up tempo game.
5. Looks like team chemistry is forming now!
6. This game won by total team effort!
Go Lakers but make sure we have the Top Five pick!
We will be back in reality in Sunday with OKC! |
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meows a lot Starting Rotation
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Have to give credit to Byron for sticking with the unit that was mounting a comeback and doing great on the floor.
1. Clarkson: thought he played really well, his jumper is falling and he is making pretty great decisions out there. you can see him slowing down his game and learning on the go.
2. Wes: this guy is most turnover prone guy I have seen. He made a few poor passes that were picked off. However, he did have a few key moments where he came out big - hitting a big 3, a off rebound adn there were a few other plays.
3. Bruce Wayne: came out on fire in the 4th. what I liked was his confidence and that he made the right play. he stole the ball, fast break 2on1 and i thought he might be selfish to take it to the rim instead of passing to open man but he passed it to lin for the easy bucket.
4. Lin: played well under control, looked for wayne in the 4th to feed him cuz he was hot. lin had a nice all around game. one thing to note is, i haven't seen a played chuck up so many air balls in my life...the next person that comes to mind is boozer and young. At least every few games these guys including lin will throw one up. I think lin needs to work on timing of the shot. usually these are desperation heaves when the defender is all up in their grill... hopefully lin keeps up his play. as commentator said: you can see him not think as much out there and his decision making is quicker. he seems very comfortable
5. davis: one of my favorite players, hustled, played good D, had some nice plays with lin and cleaned up some of his shots
6. jhill: this guy is as inconsistent as lin was. he had a terrible fg with i think at least 18 shots - but had some key important offensive rebounds for 2nd chance opportunity. at times hill tends to force the issue and tries to go 1on1, but that isn't his game.
7. sacre: made most out of his minutes, thought he hit his open shots quite well and contributed when he was on the floor
8. boozer: similar to sacre - made most of his minutes while he was on the floor
Overall, the offense was staganant when the bigs would stand around and clog up the lane, because there were also 3 bucks wiating for Lin or Clarkson to drive. ending up in someone taking a bad outside shot that didn't fall.
Clarkson is visibly the poorest player out there - not playing his position and it seems awkward to watch.
Some people say Clarkson and Lin play well together but I actually think they play better when only 1 of them is on the floor (i could be wrong). both somewhat need the ball in their hands to be effective.
feel free to edit this or add to it - sorry for no stats just writing from memory
ps i prefer wayne over nick any day. _________________ “We do have a lot in common.
The same air, the same Earth, the same sky.
Maybe if we started looking at
what's the same instead of
always looking at what's different,
...well, who knows?”
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EddieJonesss Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:31 am Post subject: |
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s_habe wrote: | Oh, bugger. Was waiting for this...
But hey, we have a winning streak! Must be the first this year...!
Party time! |
Definitely our first 3 game streak.
We've won back to back maybe twice. |
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xiaozhugong Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:41 am Post subject: |
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ADA32 wrote: | Interesting development!
1. Clarkson helping to lead his team to a win - even if he's on the bench at the end - is a positive part of his development as a player and BScott's plan.
2. Wellington got super hot in 4Q and Lin combo seems work well.
3. Like to se more Clark/Lin push the ball.
4. How about a 3 guard rotation of Lin, Clarkson, and Ellington for an up tempo game.
5. Looks like team chemistry is forming now!
6. This game won by total team effort!
Go Lakers but make sure we have the Top Five pick!
We will be back in reality in Sunday with OKC! |
Say "Clarkson helping to lead his team to a win" is little miss leading. He played really good in first half, but he left game after the third quarter with Lakers had 9 points behind Bucks. Lin and the second unit turned game around and won the game in 4th quarter. |
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fafan Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:49 am Post subject: |
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xiaozhugong wrote: | ADA32 wrote: | Interesting development!
1. Clarkson helping to lead his team to a win - even if he's on the bench at the end - is a positive part of his development as a player and BScott's plan.
2. Wellington got super hot in 4Q and Lin combo seems work well.
3. Like to se more Clark/Lin push the ball.
4. How about a 3 guard rotation of Lin, Clarkson, and Ellington for an up tempo game.
5. Looks like team chemistry is forming now!
6. This game won by total team effort!
Go Lakers but make sure we have the Top Five pick!
We will be back in reality in Sunday with OKC! |
Say "Clarkson helping to lead his team to a win" is little miss leading. He played really good in first half, but he left game after the third quarter with Lakers had 9 points behind Bucks. Lin and the second unit turned game around and won the game in 4th quarter. |
Correct, Lin and Ellington did the most. _________________ "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." --Sarah Cook. |
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[quote="fafan"][quote="xiaozhugong"] ADA32 wrote: | Interesting development!
1. Clarkson helping to lead his team to a win - even if he's on the bench at the end - is a positive part of his development as a player and BScott's plan.
2. Wellington got super hot in 4Q and Lin combo seems work well.
3. Like to se more Clark/Lin push the ball.
4. How about a 3 guard rotation of Lin, Clarkson, and Ellington for an up tempo game.
5. Looks like team chemistry is forming now!
6. This game won by total team effort!
Go Lakers but make sure we have the Top Five pick!
We will be back in reality in Sunday with OKC! |
lol u blind? didn't see the third quarter? Yea Clarkson is more of a combo/SG, the kid can score no doubt when he is feeling it, but he cannot control the pace of the game.
This game proved that Lin PG skillz and decision making has become SOLID GOLD . brought the game up from -10 points to win. Lets hope this is for real. It looks legit, cause he wasn't really balling it, very controlled. It's like he pulled the throttle back instead of going afterburners and loo and behodl his game has improved |
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fiendishoc Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Sigh. Clarkson played really well. Plus minus is meaningful sometimes, but you can't use it to diminish a good performance when he shares the floor with Kelly and Sacre and happened to be on the floor during a run. |
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_________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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rockets killer wrote: |
lol u blind? didn't see the third quarter? Yea Clarkson is more of a combo/SG, the kid can score no doubt when he is feeling it, but he cannot control the pace of the game.
This game proved that Lin PG skillz and decision making has become SOLID GOLD . brought the game up from -10 points to win. Lets hope this is for real. It looks legit, cause he wasn't really balling it, very controlled. It's like he pulled the throttle back instead of going afterburners and loo and behodl his game has improved |
Lets not get too crazy here. Clarkson is still learning the game and from a good teacher in nash so he should be improving not to mention that hes statline since the ASB has been really good even more so for a rookie.
Lin has been play pretty well recently but lets not jump the gun yet. Most of the teams we've played against since the ASB have been either eastern conf teams or not really good teams. Even in out next game its against OKC without their 2 main stars. If lin can keep up hos production till the end of the season that'd be great but until then lets keep our expectations tempered. |
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A Mad Chinaman Star Player
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Hurrican wrote: | rockets killer wrote: | lol u blind? didn't see the third quarter? Yea Clarkson is more of a combo/SG, the kid can score no doubt when he is feeling it, but he cannot control the pace of the game.
This game proved that Lin PG skillz and decision making has become SOLID GOLD . brought the game up from -10 points to win. Lets hope this is for real. It looks legit, cause he wasn't really balling it, very controlled. It's like he pulled the throttle back instead of going afterburners and loo and behodl his game has improved | Lets not get too crazy here. Clarkson is still learning the game and from a good teacher in nash so he should be improving not to mention that hes statline since the ASB has been really good even more so for a rookie.
Lin has been play pretty well recently but lets not jump the gun yet. Most of the teams we've played against since the ASB have been either eastern conf teams or not really good teams. Even in out next game its against OKC without their 2 main stars. If lin can keep up hos production till the end of the season that'd be great but until then lets keep our expectations tempered. | JLin has started playing more consistent against non-elite teams playing SG and PG. With no "black holes" on offense and only three guards, it has allowed them to play freely |
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meows a lot wrote: | Have to give credit to Byron for sticking with the unit that was mounting a comeback and doing great on the floor.
1. Clarkson: thought he played really well, his jumper is falling and he is making pretty great decisions out there. you can see him slowing down his game and learning on the go.
2. Wes: this guy is most turnover prone guy I have seen. He made a few poor passes that were picked off. However, he did have a few key moments where he came out big - hitting a big 3, a off rebound adn there were a few other plays.
3. Bruce Wayne: came out on fire in the 4th. what I liked was his confidence and that he made the right play. he stole the ball, fast break 2on1 and i thought he might be selfish to take it to the rim instead of passing to open man but he passed it to lin for the easy bucket.
4. Lin: played well under control, looked for wayne in the 4th to feed him cuz he was hot. lin had a nice all around game. one thing to note is, i haven't seen a played chuck up so many air balls in my life...the next person that comes to mind is boozer and young. At least every few games these guys including lin will throw one up. I think lin needs to work on timing of the shot. usually these are desperation heaves when the defender is all up in their grill... hopefully lin keeps up his play. as commentator said: you can see him not think as much out there and his decision making is quicker. he seems very comfortable
5. davis: one of my favorite players, hustled, played good D, had some nice plays with lin and cleaned up some of his shots
6. jhill: this guy is as inconsistent as lin was. he had a terrible fg with i think at least 18 shots - but had some key important offensive rebounds for 2nd chance opportunity. at times hill tends to force the issue and tries to go 1on1, but that isn't his game.
7. sacre: made most out of his minutes, thought he hit his open shots quite well and contributed when he was on the floor
8. boozer: similar to sacre - made most of his minutes while he was on the floor
Overall, the offense was staganant when the bigs would stand around and clog up the lane, because there were also 3 bucks wiating for Lin or Clarkson to drive. ending up in someone taking a bad outside shot that didn't fall.
Clarkson is visibly the poorest player out there - not playing his position and it seems awkward to watch.
Some people say Clarkson and Lin play well together but I actually think they play better when only 1 of them is on the floor (i could be wrong). both somewhat need the ball in their hands to be effective.
feel free to edit this or add to it - sorry for no stats just writing from memory
ps i prefer wayne over nick any day. |
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A Mad Chinaman Star Player
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fiendishoc wrote: | Sigh. Clarkson played really well. Plus minus is meaningful sometimes, but you can't use it to diminish a good performance when he shares the floor with Kelly and Sacre and happened to be on the floor during a run. | Agree.
Clarkson is learning how to play under control and with a purpose
JLin's play seems to start having signs of being more consistent and effective while noting Clarkson's growth and the absense of Swaggy P while playing against the NBA's lower tier teams.
Ellington's ability to influence the game in more ways than scoring seemingly has exposed a telling weakness in Swaggy P's game |
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fiendishoc wrote: | Sigh. Clarkson played really well. Plus minus is meaningful sometimes, but you can't use it to diminish a good performance when he shares the floor with Kelly and Sacre and happened to be on the floor during a run. |
I agree, Clarkson is handicapped with Kelly and Sacre in his unit. Kelly just hasn't really come into his own yet, maybe because he's out of position. Sacre is Sacre. |
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A Mad Chinaman wrote: | Hurrican wrote: | rockets killer wrote: | lol u blind? didn't see the third quarter? Yea Clarkson is more of a combo/SG, the kid can score no doubt when he is feeling it, but he cannot control the pace of the game.
This game proved that Lin PG skillz and decision making has become SOLID GOLD . brought the game up from -10 points to win. Lets hope this is for real. It looks legit, cause he wasn't really balling it, very controlled. It's like he pulled the throttle back instead of going afterburners and loo and behodl his game has improved | Lets not get too crazy here. Clarkson is still learning the game and from a good teacher in nash so he should be improving not to mention that hes statline since the ASB has been really good even more so for a rookie.
Lin has been play pretty well recently but lets not jump the gun yet. Most of the teams we've played against since the ASB have been either eastern conf teams or not really good teams. Even in out next game its against OKC without their 2 main stars. If lin can keep up hos production till the end of the season that'd be great but until then lets keep our expectations tempered. | JLin has started playing more consistent against non-elite teams playing SG and PG. With no "black holes" on offense and only three guards, it has allowed them to play freely |
You're always good for a back-handed complement on Lin.
Lin's playing well. He's playing team ball and was a huge contributor to 2 of the 3 wins in the winning streak. Whatever with the opponent. When he plays team ball he plays well. He still has to deal with tough long defenders better and when there's a shot blocker at the rim, but those are challenges to a lot of players, especially penetrators or guys that don't have elite dribbling and handling skills. |
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bws94 wrote: | A Mad Chinaman wrote: | Hurrican wrote: | rockets killer wrote: | lol u blind? didn't see the third quarter? Yea Clarkson is more of a combo/SG, the kid can score no doubt when he is feeling it, but he cannot control the pace of the game.
This game proved that Lin PG skillz and decision making has become SOLID GOLD . brought the game up from -10 points to win. Lets hope this is for real. It looks legit, cause he wasn't really balling it, very controlled. It's like he pulled the throttle back instead of going afterburners and loo and behodl his game has improved | Lets not get too crazy here. Clarkson is still learning the game and from a good teacher in nash so he should be improving not to mention that hes statline since the ASB has been really good even more so for a rookie.
Lin has been play pretty well recently but lets not jump the gun yet. Most of the teams we've played against since the ASB have been either eastern conf teams or not really good teams. Even in out next game its against OKC without their 2 main stars. If lin can keep up hos production till the end of the season that'd be great but until then lets keep our expectations tempered. | JLin has started playing more consistent against non-elite teams playing SG and PG. With no "black holes" on offense and only three guards, it has allowed them to play freely |
You're always good for a back-handed complement on Lin.
Lin's playing well. He's playing team ball and was a huge contributor to 2 of the 3 wins in the winning streak. Whatever with the opponent. When he plays team ball he plays well. He still has to deal with tough long defenders better and when there's a shot blocker at the rim, but those are challenges to a lot of players, especially penetrators or guys that don't have elite dribbling and handling skills. |
Makes his teammates better. |
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In the absence of DB, others stepped up, thanks! Also makes for more colorful commentary. |
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