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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:00 pm    Post subject:

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I just wish we could see Clarkson start to make a positive impact for us... I know he's a rookie but I don't like seeing a player put up consistent -20's :/ hopefully he'll bulk up this offseason and watch some tape of Ellington so he can start to be net positive for us

Can't blame it all on him. Look who he has starting with him.


Very good point... I believe Lin's #s would not be as good with that "starting" lineup


Not sure about that. BS has been moving players back and forth between 1st and 2 unit. But the second unit always did better that the first. The least useful guy is probably Kelly though.


Lin would do well with the starters if Davis follows him there. We haven't had a legitimate starting lineup all year, not sure what Byron's logic has been. A true starting lineup should be

Lin
Ellington
Wes
Boozer
Davis

But of course this would never happen under BS, it's just too logical.


I agree, but I would give Clarkson more minutes than Ellington off the bench with most of his playing time as SG in addition to backing up Lin at PG. Soon it will become so painfully obvious that BS will not be able to keep Kelly and Sacre in and with a straight face say he's not tanking


Agreed, I would even start Clarkson at the 2 if we had another true pg to run the 2nd unit.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:03 pm    Post subject:

Anyway, we're trying to tank so the legitimize talk is moot. The lineup has never made sense from the getgo, why start now lol.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:04 pm    Post subject:

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Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:09 pm    Post subject:

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I just wish we could see Clarkson start to make a positive impact for us... I know he's a rookie but I don't like seeing a player put up consistent -20's :/ hopefully he'll bulk up this offseason and watch some tape of Ellington so he can start to be net positive for us


Clarkson plays with Boozer and sacre for 18 minutes a game, Clarkson won't be on the + side anytime soon

And normally I would agree with that but their +/- were only -6/-9
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:10 pm    Post subject:

lakerpr wrote:
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Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


that's how BS make sure the game will end as planned. Genius maneuver.


I know Lin should been 12/12 gosh such a scrub heh.

They both played decent and we already know that BS has pretty horrible time management.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:11 pm    Post subject:

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Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:13 pm    Post subject:

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Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:14 pm    Post subject:

I can't complain with Lin getting 30 mins/night and getting to finish off games. This way he can stay more consistent and not get run into the ground like with MDA.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:15 pm    Post subject:

maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.

Uhhhm Clarkson better than Wellington?? Maybe in five years with a bunch of refinement. I think he has the quickness where he could be if he learned Ellingtons composure and bulked up so he wouldn't be such a liability on defense
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:16 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
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kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers


Actually with the 3 guard rotation, both Lin and Clarkson have played SG for a few minutes: Lin at the end of the first and Clarkson at the end of 4th.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:18 pm    Post subject:

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kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?



What's the point?lay Ln 40 minutes so he can hit the IR?


Give it a break


The point is probably evening out the playing time? 35 each or something like that?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:28 pm    Post subject:

lakerpr wrote:
deal wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?



What's the point?lay Ln 40 minutes so he can hit the IR?


Give it a break


The point is probably evening out the playing time? 35 each or something like that?


I don't like losing to wade. The lakers suck some major dick right now
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:42 pm    Post subject:

43 FT vs 17... I don't really want to blame it on the ref but the difference is just too big to ignore. If we got a few calls in our favor than the outcome would be different. But a L is a L, I'll take it.

But seriously man, we really need a legit big next season. Hill & Sacre just ain't gonna cut it. That would be my first priority come off season, since BS looks to be here for good so nothing can be done there.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:43 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers



Lol...I will respect the old school mentality though. bs is a perfect match for you
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject:

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43 FT vs 17... I don't really want to blame it on the ref but the difference is just too big to ignore. If we got a few calls in our favor than the outcome would be different. But a L is a L, I'll take it.

But seriously man, we really need a legit big next season. Hill & Sacre just ain't gonna cut it. That would be my first priority come off season, since BS looks to be here for good so nothing can be done there.


We have davis and black, but black doesn't even get off the bench now.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:46 pm    Post subject:

maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers



Lol...I will respect the old school mentality though. bs is a perfect match for you


Looks like somebody doesn't understand the concept of positions....but I guess that goes with the territory of these new fans....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:47 pm    Post subject:

lakerpr wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers


Actually with the 3 guard rotation, both Lin and Clarkson have played SG for a few minutes: Lin at the end of the first and Clarkson at the end of 4th.


And they don't play SG as their primary positions because thats not their best strengths.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:48 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers


Lin is the 3rd PG after Clarkson and head of snake.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:49 pm    Post subject:

Current Keepers for next year....:

Ellington
Davis
Clarkson.....

the rest of the team on this roster will probably be on another squad next year........ I'm just happy that this dreadful season is coming to an end... and the sad part is that a healthy Randle/Nash and a productive Kobe would probably still put us out of the playoffs right now so the need to get better should be the plan.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:51 pm    Post subject:

lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers



Lol...I will respect the old school mentality though. bs is a perfect match for you


Looks like somebody doesn't understand the concept of positions....but I guess that goes with the territory of these new fans....



Are you serious? Did you ever watch the suns? Or how modern nba teams play?
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lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers



Lol...I will respect the old school mentality though. bs is a perfect match for you


Looks like somebody doesn't understand the concept of positions....but I guess that goes with the territory of these new fans....


Just so you know, you're not coming off as the knowledgeable one here.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:52 pm    Post subject:

Lin and Davis need to sign a combined contract like Morris Twins... they help each other tremendously... Davis is always there when Lin is driving, and Lin keeps finding Davis... Even Lin's missed layups often ended up Davis' rebound and putbacks...
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maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
maomao wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Wayne Ellington played 42mins with 14pt (6/15), 3ast, 0stl

Jeremy Lin played 29min with 12pt (5/12), 9ast, 4stl

Is it a joke?


Whats your point. They don't even play the same positions and Wayne is the only SG available this game. Nick Young is injured and Kobe is out for the year. Lin on the other hand shares duties with Clarkson.


except that lin/clarkson are better sg than ellington.
but it doesn't matter, it's the BS system. ellington is price's replacement.

it's much better than before though. at least ellington is still young and has much higher upside than price.


Stop it.
Lin and Clarkson aren't SG's....
Please don't make dumb comparisons like that again.
Here is a depth chart.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/lal/los-angeles-lakers



Lol...I will respect the old school mentality though. bs is a perfect match for you


Looks like somebody doesn't understand the concept of positions....but I guess that goes with the territory of these new fans....



Are you serious? Did you ever watch the suns? Or how modern nba teams play?


Please tell me how it worked out for the Suns....
oh, wait it blew up in their faces....
Dragic is gone, and so is Isiah Thomas because they were both unhappy with their roles....


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:54 pm    Post subject:

K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
Current Keepers for next year....:

Ellington
Davis
Clarkson.....

the rest of the team on this roster will probably be on another squad next year........ I'm just happy that this dreadful season is coming to an end... and the sad part is that a healthy Randle/Nash and a productive Kobe would probably still put us out of the playoffs right now so the need to get better should be the plan.


Davis? He'll be a FA at end of season.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:57 pm    Post subject:

Honeybadger81 wrote:
Lin and Davis need to sign a combined contract like Morris Twins... they help each other tremendously... Davis is always there when Lin is driving, and Lin keeps finding Davis... Even Lin's missed layups often ended up Davis' rebound and putbacks...


Lin plays well with Davis but honestly, he plays good with a lot of bigs. Tyson Chandler with NY, on Houston Jones, Smith and Asik and sometimes Howard and on the Lakers Davis, at times Black and not bad with Boozer and Hill though they Pick and pop more than roll.
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