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| Quote: | | But this dramatically changes the 2016 summer landscape —everyone is going to have money to spend. A lot of money. Teams like the Lakers and Knicks will be able to take on multiple max salaries if they desire, more than 20 teams will be able to add at least one. Kevin Durant and LeBron James will be among the free agents. From ESPN’s Brian Windhorst here is a description of the impending chaos. |
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| Quote: | After a meeting this week failed to produce a compromise, the NBA is now preparing itself for the largest salary-cap jump in league history for the 2016-17 season.
It's a move that could have significant implications for potential 2016 free agents such as Kevin Durant and LeBron James as well as teams that have positioned themselves to have cap space, most notably the Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks. |
| Quote: | | NBA teams using internal data are projecting the salary cap to jump to between $88 million and $92 million per team, sources told ESPN. To compare, this season the cap is set at $63 million and next season it is projected to land at about $66 million. To put it into perspective, the largest salary-cap jump in history is $7 million in one season. What happens in 2016 could triple that leap. |
| Quote: | Broadly, this development likely means two things for the short term of league business:
• There may be some free agents this summer who only accept one-year contracts so they can retest the market in 2016, when it will be awash with available cash.
• The likelihood of a lockout in 2017 when both sides can opt out of the current CBA just increased significantly, if not unexpectedly. |
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Teams with the most cap room in 2016-17 (the number is the committed salary):
| Quote: | 1 Portland Trail Blazers $3,219,579
2 Los Angeles Lakers $8,711,038
3 Boston Celtics $16,767,757
4 Philadelphia 76ers $20,525,553
5 Orlando Magic $ $21,954,549
6 Memphis Grizzlies $23,556,409
7 Detroit Pistons $25,198,750
8 New Orleans Pelicans $26,594,996
9 Cleveland Cavaliers $27,193,835
10 Atlanta Hawks $27,586,927
11 Milwaukee Bucks $29,730,603
12 Denver Nuggets $29,849,765
13 Dallas Mavericks $29,958,880
14 Charlotte Hornets $30,722,833
15 Toronto Raptors $31,060,960
16 Miami Heat $31,854,061
17 San Antonio Spurs $33,966,341
18 Indiana Pacers $34,403,001
19 Brooklyn Nets $36,996,439
20 New York Knicks $37,126,054
21 Oklahoma City Thunder $45,222,699
22 Washington Wizards $47,297,131
23 Utah Jazz $48,796,125
24 Chicago Bulls $49,657,018
25 Houston Rockets $50,150,130
26 Phoenix Suns $52,701,065
27 Minnesota Timberwolves $53,730,726
28 Sacramento Kings $56,550,248
29 Golden State Warriors $56,715,704
30 Los Angeles Clippers $58,102,296 |
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EDIT: This was before the trade palooza at the deadline. We should still be 2nd though. Will fact check and come back
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| We just now basically have to look at 10 million per year as MLE money because that's probably what it will end up being. So, if we sign somebody like Robin Lopez to a max contract, it won't be a big deal, it would be as if we signed him to a regular 10 million per year contract that more then serviceable 7 footers go for these days. 10 million per year for somebody like Danny Green don't sound too outlandish now. |
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I dont see smoothing having any effect on a cba opt out. The split to the players is the same in 16 with or without smoothing, and they were going to opt out for more regardless.
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| I think we might look in to dealing the Houston pick for somebody on a one year deal, like Hibbert or Brook Lopez. Or even, Nick Young, Ryan Kelly and Houston pick to Brooklyn for Deron Williams or Joe Johnson. |
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Checked it again, some other teams have moved around, we're still second  |
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| And people say that Mitch doesn't know what he's doing. |
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I know it's good to have a lot cap space. But you still need players that want to come here.
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| Troublesome626 wrote: | ^
I know it's good to have a lot cap space. But you still need players that want to come here. |
I'm sure that wont be an issue. Mitch has a plan and a timeline. Judging him before that will just make us feel silly after it all comes together. |
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| Troublesome626 wrote: | ^
I know it's good to have a lot cap space. But you still need players that want to come here. |
Players were willing to come here last year (and dragic put us at the top of his wishlist at the deadline), the front office just declined, knowing the class this year is deeper through all talent ranges.
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While the fear is top tier teams will gain advantages again(cba targeted the Lakers) it may not be so amazing for those teams. The established playoff teams will have max money while being contenders. Questions becomes do stars go to those stacked teams or to the Lakers. This will also let teams keep their restricted guys, not that it wasn't tough for them to stay.
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| Reflexx wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | ^
I know it's good to have a lot cap space. But you still need players that want to come here. |
I'm sure that wont be an issue. Mitch has a plan and a timeline. Judging him before that will just make us feel silly after it all comes together. |
I am definitely not misjudging or underestimating Mitch. We all know he has done some incredible things in the past. I am just being objective. There are a lot of other perspectives that need to be looked at. For instance our coaching situation dose not look to attractive also we need to have some sort of winning culture to attract big free agent name. It is really hard to get a super star to come and join a team that has been doing a lot of losing in over the past few seasons.
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| 22 wrote: | Teams with the most cap room in 2016-17 (the number is the committed salary):
| Quote: | 1 Portland Trail Blazers $3,219,579
2 Los Angeles Lakers $8,711,038
3 Boston Celtics $16,767,757
4 Philadelphia 76ers $20,525,553
5 Orlando Magic $ $21,954,549
6 Memphis Grizzlies $23,556,409
7 Detroit Pistons $25,198,750
8 New Orleans Pelicans $26,594,996
9 Cleveland Cavaliers $27,193,835
10 Atlanta Hawks $27,586,927
11 Milwaukee Bucks $29,730,603
12 Denver Nuggets $29,849,765
13 Dallas Mavericks $29,958,880
14 Charlotte Hornets $30,722,833
15 Toronto Raptors $31,060,960
16 Miami Heat $31,854,061
17 San Antonio Spurs $33,966,341
18 Indiana Pacers $34,403,001
19 Brooklyn Nets $36,996,439
20 New York Knicks $37,126,054
21 Oklahoma City Thunder $45,222,699
22 Washington Wizards $47,297,131
23 Utah Jazz $48,796,125
24 Chicago Bulls $49,657,018
25 Houston Rockets $50,150,130
26 Phoenix Suns $52,701,065
27 Minnesota Timberwolves $53,730,726
28 Sacramento Kings $56,550,248
29 Golden State Warriors $56,715,704
30 Los Angeles Clippers $58,102,296 |
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EDIT: This was before the trade palooza at the deadline. We should still be 2nd though. Will fact check and come back |
It's all but certain that the Blazers are going to be re-signing Aldridge and Lillard by then. We should have the most cap when the time comes.
Maybe Aldridge takes a one year deal this summer to maximize his earnings when the cap rises? |
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| ^Portland will without a doubt be playing a win-now strategy and throwing serious money at Lillard and Aldridge. They might not have to offer as much on Matthews with the Achilles tear factoring in, but no way the Blazers stay on top of this list. |
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| 22 wrote: | Teams with the most cap room in 2016-17 (the number is the committed salary):
| Quote: | 1 Portland Trail Blazers $3,219,579
2 Los Angeles Lakers $8,711,038
3 Boston Celtics $16,767,757
4 Philadelphia 76ers $20,525,553
5 Orlando Magic $ $21,954,549
6 Memphis Grizzlies $23,556,409
7 Detroit Pistons $25,198,750
8 New Orleans Pelicans $26,594,996
9 Cleveland Cavaliers $27,193,835
10 Atlanta Hawks $27,586,927
11 Milwaukee Bucks $29,730,603
12 Denver Nuggets $29,849,765
13 Dallas Mavericks $29,958,880
14 Charlotte Hornets $30,722,833
15 Toronto Raptors $31,060,960
16 Miami Heat $31,854,061
17 San Antonio Spurs $33,966,341
18 Indiana Pacers $34,403,001
19 Brooklyn Nets $36,996,439
20 New York Knicks $37,126,054
21 Oklahoma City Thunder $45,222,699
22 Washington Wizards $47,297,131
23 Utah Jazz $48,796,125
24 Chicago Bulls $49,657,018
25 Houston Rockets $50,150,130
26 Phoenix Suns $52,701,065
27 Minnesota Timberwolves $53,730,726
28 Sacramento Kings $56,550,248
29 Golden State Warriors $56,715,704
30 Los Angeles Clippers $58,102,296 |
Mitch is smarter than the average bear
EDIT: This was before the trade palooza at the deadline. We should still be 2nd though. Will fact check and come back |
just wondering, what good are these numbers right now? I mean, we still have the 2015 offseason. Are we expecting more 1-year contracts this offseason? If not, then showing these figures right now doesn't mean that much for the 2016 offseason, right? or am I missing something? |
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This sort of makes it all-or-nothing. Everyone will have a max slot, so you either need 2+ Max guys colluding with another starter, or you need to be one star away from serious contention because anyone worth having will have 20+ teams to choose from.
So, this off-season will determine how screwed we are in '16 |
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| 3peat_pete wrote: | | 22 wrote: | Teams with the most cap room in 2016-17 (the number is the committed salary):
| Quote: | 1 Portland Trail Blazers $3,219,579
2 Los Angeles Lakers $8,711,038
3 Boston Celtics $16,767,757
4 Philadelphia 76ers $20,525,553
5 Orlando Magic $ $21,954,549
6 Memphis Grizzlies $23,556,409
7 Detroit Pistons $25,198,750
8 New Orleans Pelicans $26,594,996
9 Cleveland Cavaliers $27,193,835
10 Atlanta Hawks $27,586,927
11 Milwaukee Bucks $29,730,603
12 Denver Nuggets $29,849,765
13 Dallas Mavericks $29,958,880
14 Charlotte Hornets $30,722,833
15 Toronto Raptors $31,060,960
16 Miami Heat $31,854,061
17 San Antonio Spurs $33,966,341
18 Indiana Pacers $34,403,001
19 Brooklyn Nets $36,996,439
20 New York Knicks $37,126,054
21 Oklahoma City Thunder $45,222,699
22 Washington Wizards $47,297,131
23 Utah Jazz $48,796,125
24 Chicago Bulls $49,657,018
25 Houston Rockets $50,150,130
26 Phoenix Suns $52,701,065
27 Minnesota Timberwolves $53,730,726
28 Sacramento Kings $56,550,248
29 Golden State Warriors $56,715,704
30 Los Angeles Clippers $58,102,296 |
Mitch is smarter than the average bear
EDIT: This was before the trade palooza at the deadline. We should still be 2nd though. Will fact check and come back |
just wondering, what good are these numbers right now? I mean, we still have the 2015 offseason. Are we expecting more 1-year contracts this offseason? If not, then showing these figures right now doesn't mean that much for the 2016 offseason, right? or am I missing something? |
We might have some 1 yr contracts. But many teams will be in the exact same situation.
I think we bring back Wes and Ellington on longer cheap deals.
Davis and Lin on longer medium deals. Maybe even Booz.
We can afford to sign some medium sized contracts because Kobe's huge salary comes off he books. |
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| 3peat_pete wrote: | | 22 wrote: | Teams with the most cap room in 2016-17 (the number is the committed salary):
| Quote: | 1 Portland Trail Blazers $3,219,579
2 Los Angeles Lakers $8,711,038
3 Boston Celtics $16,767,757
4 Philadelphia 76ers $20,525,553
5 Orlando Magic $ $21,954,549
6 Memphis Grizzlies $23,556,409
7 Detroit Pistons $25,198,750
8 New Orleans Pelicans $26,594,996
9 Cleveland Cavaliers $27,193,835
10 Atlanta Hawks $27,586,927
11 Milwaukee Bucks $29,730,603
12 Denver Nuggets $29,849,765
13 Dallas Mavericks $29,958,880
14 Charlotte Hornets $30,722,833
15 Toronto Raptors $31,060,960
16 Miami Heat $31,854,061
17 San Antonio Spurs $33,966,341
18 Indiana Pacers $34,403,001
19 Brooklyn Nets $36,996,439
20 New York Knicks $37,126,054
21 Oklahoma City Thunder $45,222,699
22 Washington Wizards $47,297,131
23 Utah Jazz $48,796,125
24 Chicago Bulls $49,657,018
25 Houston Rockets $50,150,130
26 Phoenix Suns $52,701,065
27 Minnesota Timberwolves $53,730,726
28 Sacramento Kings $56,550,248
29 Golden State Warriors $56,715,704
30 Los Angeles Clippers $58,102,296 |
Mitch is smarter than the average bear
EDIT: This was before the trade palooza at the deadline. We should still be 2nd though. Will fact check and come back |
just wondering, what good are these numbers right now? I mean, we still have the 2015 offseason. Are we expecting more 1-year contracts this offseason? If not, then showing these figures right now doesn't mean that much for the 2016 offseason, right? or am I missing something? |
It more or less just shows their flexibility, and how much combined spending power they can have between now and then.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | This sort of makes it all-or-nothing. Everyone will have a max slot, so you either need 2+ Max guys colluding with another starter, or you need to be one star away from serious contention because anyone worth having will have 20+ teams to choose from.
So, this off-season will determine how screwed we are in '16 |
Not necessarily. The opportunity to be the franchise player for the Lakers is a big draw.
If there's a star on the Lakers we know that others will come because its just a great place to be. Stars know this too. They don't have to collude with anyone. Just being there will make the Lakers a hot spot for free agents. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Reflexx wrote: | | LakersRGolden wrote: | This sort of makes it all-or-nothing. Everyone will have a max slot, so you either need 2+ Max guys colluding with another starter, or you need to be one star away from serious contention because anyone worth having will have 20+ teams to choose from.
So, this off-season will determine how screwed we are in '16 |
Not necessarily. The opportunity to be the franchise player for the Lakers is a big draw.
If there's a star on the Lakers we know that others will come because its just a great place to be. Stars know this too. They don't have to collude with anyone. Just being there will make the Lakers a hot spot for free agents. |
It does mean that we REALLY need this year's pick. Sure, we get next year's if we miss out now, but there's no way we can tank next year and appear to be a respectable option for big FAs to go to. |
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| 3peat_pete wrote: | | 22 wrote: | Teams with the most cap room in 2016-17 (the number is the committed salary):
| Quote: | 1 Portland Trail Blazers $3,219,579
2 Los Angeles Lakers $8,711,038
3 Boston Celtics $16,767,757
4 Philadelphia 76ers $20,525,553
5 Orlando Magic $ $21,954,549
6 Memphis Grizzlies $23,556,409
7 Detroit Pistons $25,198,750
8 New Orleans Pelicans $26,594,996
9 Cleveland Cavaliers $27,193,835
10 Atlanta Hawks $27,586,927
11 Milwaukee Bucks $29,730,603
12 Denver Nuggets $29,849,765
13 Dallas Mavericks $29,958,880
14 Charlotte Hornets $30,722,833
15 Toronto Raptors $31,060,960
16 Miami Heat $31,854,061
17 San Antonio Spurs $33,966,341
18 Indiana Pacers $34,403,001
19 Brooklyn Nets $36,996,439
20 New York Knicks $37,126,054
21 Oklahoma City Thunder $45,222,699
22 Washington Wizards $47,297,131
23 Utah Jazz $48,796,125
24 Chicago Bulls $49,657,018
25 Houston Rockets $50,150,130
26 Phoenix Suns $52,701,065
27 Minnesota Timberwolves $53,730,726
28 Sacramento Kings $56,550,248
29 Golden State Warriors $56,715,704
30 Los Angeles Clippers $58,102,296 |
Mitch is smarter than the average bear
EDIT: This was before the trade palooza at the deadline. We should still be 2nd though. Will fact check and come back |
just wondering, what good are these numbers right now? I mean, we still have the 2015 offseason. Are we expecting more 1-year contracts this offseason? If not, then showing these figures right now doesn't mean that much for the 2016 offseason, right? or am I missing something? |
Well, yeah. But we'll still have minimum 2 max slots available in 2016, one coming from the cap increase and another coming from Kobe's contract expiring.
If we were to lose this year's pick, trade Young, and sign a bunch of 1 year deals again this off-season, we could have as many as 4 max slots. If that's the worst case scenario, it's not all that terrible I guess.. Correct me if I'm wrong... |
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| Don Draper wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: | | LakersRGolden wrote: | This sort of makes it all-or-nothing. Everyone will have a max slot, so you either need 2+ Max guys colluding with another starter, or you need to be one star away from serious contention because anyone worth having will have 20+ teams to choose from.
So, this off-season will determine how screwed we are in '16 |
Not necessarily. The opportunity to be the franchise player for the Lakers is a big draw.
If there's a star on the Lakers we know that others will come because its just a great place to be. Stars know this too. They don't have to collude with anyone. Just being there will make the Lakers a hot spot for free agents. |
It does mean that we REALLY need this year's pick. Sure, we get next year's if we miss out now, but there's no way we can tank next year and appear to be a respectable option for big FAs to go to. |
If we have Randle, Clarkson, Davis, and Lin I think that's more than a decent supporting cast for someone like Durant to play with. |
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| Reflexx wrote: | | Don Draper wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: | | LakersRGolden wrote: | This sort of makes it all-or-nothing. Everyone will have a max slot, so you either need 2+ Max guys colluding with another starter, or you need to be one star away from serious contention because anyone worth having will have 20+ teams to choose from.
So, this off-season will determine how screwed we are in '16 |
Not necessarily. The opportunity to be the franchise player for the Lakers is a big draw.
If there's a star on the Lakers we know that others will come because its just a great place to be. Stars know this too. They don't have to collude with anyone. Just being there will make the Lakers a hot spot for free agents. |
It does mean that we REALLY need this year's pick. Sure, we get next year's if we miss out now, but there's no way we can tank next year and appear to be a respectable option for big FAs to go to. |
If we have Randle, Clarkson, Davis, and Lin I think that's more than a decent supporting cast for someone like Durant to play with. |
Also Black and probably Brown. |
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| The Lakers are in great position. Specially if we keep our top 5 pick this year. |
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So using the number that 22 provided, and assuming we get all our picks this offseason and use all our cap space, we would be looking at $50-54 mil in cap space.
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