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AY2043
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:05 pm Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:

So using the number that 22 provided, and assuming we get all our picks this offseason and use all our cap space, we would be looking at $50-54 mil in cap space.

Well that's encouraging

danzag
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:13 pm Post subject:

AY2043 wrote:

venturalakersfan wrote:

So using the number that 22 provided, and assuming we get all our picks this offseason and use all our cap space, we would be looking at $50-54 mil in cap space.

Well that's encouraging

Very. If this plan works out Mitch & Jim are gonna set the franchise for the next 10 years or something.

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject:

Reflexx wrote:

Don Draper wrote:

Reflexx wrote:

LakersRGolden wrote:

This sort of makes it all-or-nothing. Everyone will have a max slot, so you either need 2+ Max guys colluding with another starter, or you need to be one star away from serious contention because anyone worth having will have 20+ teams to choose from.

So, this off-season will determine how screwed we are in '16

Not necessarily. The opportunity to be the franchise player for the Lakers is a big draw.

If there's a star on the Lakers we know that others will come because its just a great place to be. Stars know this too. They don't have to collude with anyone. Just being there will make the Lakers a hot spot for free agents.

It does mean that we REALLY need this year's pick. Sure, we get next year's if we miss out now, but there's no way we can tank next year and appear to be a respectable option for big FAs to go to.

If we have Randle, Clarkson, Davis, and Lin I think that's more than a decent supporting cast for someone like Durant to play with.

That's an awful cast to sell onto Durant. You'd need to convince two other stars to join him.

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:58 pm Post subject:

Randle, Clarkson, top 5 lotto pick, Dragic, D. Green/Carroll. A little more attractive, especially if that lineup can win 40 games next season. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:33 pm Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:

Randle, Clarkson, top 5 lotto pick, Dragic, D. Green/Carroll. A little more attractive, especially if that lineup can win 40 games next season.

Agreed. To be a contender in the West you need a solid solid solid team AND a superstar (or two). Attracting the latter half of the equation won't be easy without the former. Having a few of our better parts from this year and Randle won't cut it.

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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:43 pm Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:

Randle, Clarkson, top 5 lotto pick, Dragic, D. Green/Carroll. A little more attractive, especially if that lineup can win 40 games next season.

Agreed. We end up at .500 and FA's see that we're trending in an upward direction.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:15 am Post subject:

What this also provides is a situation similar to Miami where a pair or trio of stars can decide amongst themselves to come to L.A. In that scenario, the supporting cast matters a little less.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:38 am Post subject:

Don Draper wrote:

venturalakersfan wrote:

Randle, Clarkson, top 5 lotto pick, Dragic, D. Green/Carroll. A little more attractive, especially if that lineup can win 40 games next season.

We need 2 superstars or 4 all star (Spurs, Hawks, etc) to simply make the playoffs.

You need solid role players to compete and win.

magicfan
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:15 pm Post subject:

For salary cap experts..is this scenario possible? Sign Love and M. Gasol to 1 yr deal in 2015 and then resign both for max in 2016. Gives Kobe a chance win 1 more next year.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Historic salary cap increase set for 2016-17 (Lakers related discussion)

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But this dramatically changes the 2016 summer landscape —everyone is going to have money to spend. A lot of money. Teams like the Lakers and Knicks will be able to take on multiple max salaries if they desire, more than 20 teams will be able to add at least one. Kevin Durant and LeBron James will be among the free agents. From ESPN’s Brian Windhorst here is a description of the impending chaos.

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After a meeting this week failed to produce a compromise, the NBA is now preparing itself for the largest salary-cap jump in league history for the 2016-17 season.

It's a move that could have significant implications for potential 2016 free agents such as Kevin Durant and LeBron James as well as teams that have positioned themselves to have cap space, most notably the Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks.

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NBA teams using internal data are projecting the salary cap to jump to between $88 million and $92 million per team, sources told ESPN. To compare, this season the cap is set at $63 million and next season it is projected to land at about $66 million. To put it into perspective, the largest salary-cap jump in history is $7 million in one season. What happens in 2016 could triple that leap.

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Broadly, this development likely means two things for the short term of league business:

• There may be some free agents this summer who only accept one-year contracts so they can retest the market in 2016, when it will be awash with available cash.

• The likelihood of a lockout in 2017 when both sides can opt out of the current CBA just increased significantly, if not unexpectedly.

ESPN

Mitch knows what he is doing. If we can sign some places holders, 1 year max deals for guys like Rondo we could potentially put together a playoff roster in the short term then enter 2016 with room for THREE max contracts to add to a core of Randle, Top 5 Pick, Clarkson, Houston First, etc.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:24 pm Post subject:

kobe_luver wrote:

Reflexx wrote:

Don Draper wrote:

Reflexx wrote:

LakersRGolden wrote:

It does mean that we REALLY need this year's pick. Sure, we get next year's if we miss out now, but there's no way we can tank next year and appear to be a respectable option for big FAs to go to.

If we have Randle, Clarkson, Davis, and Lin I think that's more than a decent supporting cast for someone like Durant to play with.

Also Black and probably Brown.

Black, brown, yellow, white... it's all good.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:28 pm Post subject:

gng930 wrote:

Reflexx wrote:

Don Draper wrote:

Reflexx wrote:

LakersRGolden wrote:

It does mean that we REALLY need this year's pick. Sure, we get next year's if we miss out now, but there's no way we can tank next year and appear to be a respectable option for big FAs to go to.

If we have Randle, Clarkson, Davis, and Lin I think that's more than a decent supporting cast for someone like Durant to play with.

That's an awful cast to sell onto Durant. You'd need to convince two other stars to join him.

But you don't need to convince those other two stars before him.

Durant knows that LA is an easier place to recruit players from than just about anywhere else.

If Durant comes here, him plus the supporting cast here will be enough to attract at least one other star.

But we greatly reduce our chances of getting someone like Durant if we don't even have some decent role players here first.

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:18 pm Post subject:

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New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax

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NBA Salary cap projected to rise by over 22 million between 2015 and 2016. That's a pretty big jump. Not official until audit around July 10

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Further projections sent out: 2018-19: 100 million salary cap, 121 tax , 2019-20: 102 salary cap, 124 tax, 2020-2021:107 salary cap, 130 tax

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Obviously a 40 million dollar jump in the salary cap between 2016 and 2018 is going to be very very interesting for teams, players & agents.

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Would be shocked if better players decide to sign four year deals this summer (w/no outs) with amount of money coming in the next few years.

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VanCity
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:24 pm Post subject:

Those numbers are crazy

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:44 pm Post subject:

32 wrote:

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New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax

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NBA Salary cap projected to rise by over 22 million between 2015 and 2016. That's a pretty big jump. Not official until audit around July 10

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Further projections sent out: 2018-19: 100 million salary cap, 121 tax , 2019-20: 102 salary cap, 124 tax, 2020-2021:107 salary cap, 130 tax

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Obviously a 40 million dollar jump in the salary cap between 2016 and 2018 is going to be very very interesting for teams, players & agents.

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Would be shocked if better players decide to sign four year deals this summer (w/no outs) with amount of money coming in the next few years.

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress

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44TheLogo
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:51 pm Post subject:

even if we suck and don't show progress, if we have enough cap space for 3 max players and a blank slate, that is an attractive platform for potential free agents.

Lakers2015
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:06 pm Post subject:

Reflexx wrote:

Don Draper wrote:

Reflexx wrote:

LakersRGolden wrote:

It does mean that we REALLY need this year's pick. Sure, we get next year's if we miss out now, but there's no way we can tank next year and appear to be a respectable option for big FAs to go to.

If we have Randle, Clarkson, Davis, and Lin I think that's more than a decent supporting cast for someone like Durant to play with.

I don't see Durant choosing that cast over OKC unless we keep the pick.

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject:

gng930 wrote:

Reflexx wrote:

Don Draper wrote:

Reflexx wrote:

LakersRGolden wrote:

It does mean that we REALLY need this year's pick. Sure, we get next year's if we miss out now, but there's no way we can tank next year and appear to be a respectable option for big FAs to go to.

If we have Randle, Clarkson, Davis, and Lin I think that's more than a decent supporting cast for someone like Durant to play with.

That's an awful cast to sell onto Durant. You'd need to convince two other stars to join him.

It's not awful. Two promising young prospects and a couple of solid role players. I don't think it's enough to beat OKC, but with another lotto pick it can be.

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:19 pm Post subject:

Clarkson, Randle, Top 5 pick, Houston pick, Black along with cap space to be able to sign 3 max players will be huge going into 2016 FA.

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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:57 pm Post subject:

Missed your thread... $108M in 3 years!!! http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237470/NBA-Projects-Salary-Cap-To-Reach-$108M-For-17-18-Season _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again #Avatar-gate

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:09 pm Post subject:

CBS SPORTS ARTICLE ABOUT CAP INCREASE

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Sources told ESPN.com that, based on current projections, league officials expect the salary cap to increase from its current $63.1 million figure to $67.1 million next season, $89 million in 2016-17, and $108 million in 2017-18. The jumps represent massive increases largely triggered by the influx of television money that will begin pouring in after the 2015-16 season when the NBA's new nine-year, $24 billion TV deal kicks in.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25153150/report-teams-told-salary-cap-could-rise-above-100-million-in-2017-

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:29 pm Post subject:

44TheLogo wrote:

even if we suck and don't show progress, if we have enough cap space for 3 max players and a blank slate, that is an attractive platform for potential free agents.

On the flip side, teams that are stacked now would have a max slot themselves and could sign stars and be better than ever. I'm really not sure if the TV deal helps us or hurts us because of exactly that.

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:54 pm Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:

44TheLogo wrote:

even if we suck and don't show progress, if we have enough cap space for 3 max players and a blank slate, that is an attractive platform for potential free agents.

I agree. It is not about the money. It is making sure you get the right players and it remains be seen if this FO can build a team from scratch.

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:55 pm Post subject:

Reflexx wrote:

And people say that Mitch doesn't know what he's doing.

Mitch plays chess and the NBA tries to thwart him while the rest of the league plays checkers. But some people here can't get over drafting Brian Cook, Luke Walton and Sasha Vujacic.

He was drafting for position under Jackson where Jackson clearly wasn't going to let the best players available tamper with his core team mojo by coaching them up and, thereby, rocking the boat.

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:58 pm Post subject:

danzag wrote:

AY2043 wrote:

venturalakersfan wrote:

So using the number that 22 provided, and assuming we get all our picks this offseason and use all our cap space, we would be looking at $50-54 mil in cap space.

Well that's encouraging

Very. If this plan works out Mitch & Jim are gonna set the franchise for the next 10 years or something.

It's time to find three pillars to build on like the Spurs have done and like the Lakers did under Riley. We never had a third pillar under Jackson.

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