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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:34 pm    Post subject: Minister asks for $65 million in donations for a new jet

http://globalgrind.com/2015/03/13/minister-creflo-dollar-asks-for-65-million-to-buy-private-jet/

Seriously can't fly coach? Gas bill is 10k just to fly coast to coast. How many families you can help with 65M dollars?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:07 pm    Post subject:

All completely tax free, as well...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:14 pm    Post subject:

Let's see if he breaks $6,500.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:24 pm    Post subject:

I'm an insider on this and his millions of followers around the world will gladly make it happen as he is one of the most prominent Christian teachers. He built his $18 million church cash back in 1996.

15 years ago, his ministry employed 300 people. His campus electricity bill was $400,000 a month. His yearly television bill was $23 million.

His ministry grew substantially since then so $65 million won't take long to get, all he had to do is ask.

He already had at least 2 smaller private jets, he might sell those and put it toward the G6.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:25 pm    Post subject:

There's a reason that Minister is only one letter removed from sinister.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:44 pm    Post subject:

Most Rappers and Ballers can't even afford this type of expense....
Remember when Justin Beiber tried to pose with a private jet.......
Thats a whole another level of hustle there...

South Park was right again.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:00 pm    Post subject:

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Most Rappers and Ballers can't even afford this type of expense....
Remember when Justin Beiber tried to pose with a private jet.......
Thats a whole another level of hustle there...

South Park was right again.


Yep. Mesmerizing the masses and creating a cult of personality is about two tiers above being a basic entertainer like Bieber and others.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:39 pm    Post subject:

God damns you if you make me fly coach.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 6:47 pm    Post subject:

Fools and their money are soon parted.

More power to him, getting away with it because he got his degree from Jesus U.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:05 pm    Post subject:

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Fools and their money are soon parted.

More power to him, getting away with it because he got his degree from Jesus U.


Why?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 7:41 pm    Post subject:

I went to his well designed website, which has seemingly limitless content.

In the "about us" section, it talks about how Creflo Augustus Dollar's (his actual name) objective is to establish 500 churches worldwide, which is apparently mandated by God. I'm not familiar with any biblical verse that says that, but there might indeed be one, I don't know. But it tells you right away that he's found a way to legitimize his never-ending demands for more and more money, if he's short of 500.

It says he has degrees in education and counseling. Nowhere does it say that he's qualified to teach people about the Bible. Does he speak Koine Greek? Is he familiar with Early Christian history? It doesn't say. But when someone like Deoin Sanders qualifies to be a Christian Minister these days, it tells you everything about that profession.

It says his wife, Taffi, is the CEO of a "cutting edge" Christian recording company. And when we think of religious music, we think of cutting edge, of course. Her qualifications to teach the Bible? She has a degree in Mental Health.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:21 pm    Post subject:

his last name is "Dollar" ??? haha
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:54 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
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Fools and their money are soon parted.

More power to him, getting away with it because he got his degree from Jesus U.


Why?


Was kinda being facetious.

But at the same time... If sheeple are willingly going to hand out money to this guy in hopes of being delivered from evil ... Well, that's on them.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:14 pm    Post subject:

Lots of haters, but the donations come from people's appreciation for his teachings that have brought personal improvement to their lives, marriage, relationships, finances, health etc.

His ministry is likely well over $100 million dollar a year cost operation with all the over head. The demand of his life and ministry require him to fly all over the world on a constant basis. He needs to get around efficiently. His previous lower end jet had 2 failures that nearly cost people their lives. Here he is making positive impacts on people all over the world and people have a problem with that. Well it takes money to get things done and he has plenty of supporters who understand that and gladly help the cause. Not everyone can feed the hungry around the world and clothe them and bring them a positive message, so they make contributions cause that is what these ministries do. His ministry has many outreaches to help people not only in the local community but all over the world. That takes money to get done.

People think people have jets for leisure. This guy busts his balls using a jet to work. Its a business tool.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:47 pm    Post subject:

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Lots of haters, but the donations come from people's appreciation for his teachings that have brought personal improvement to their lives, marriage, relationships, finances, health etc.

His ministry is likely well over $100 million dollar a year cost operation with all the over head. The demand of his life and ministry require him to fly all over the world on a constant basis. He needs to get around efficiently. His previous lower end jet had 2 failures that nearly cost people their lives. Here he is making positive impacts on people all over the world and people have a problem with that. Well it takes money to get things done and he has plenty of supporters who understand that and gladly help the cause. Not everyone can feed the hungry around the world and clothe them and bring them a positive message, so they make contributions cause that is what these ministries do. His ministry has many outreaches to help people not only in the local community but all over the world. That takes money to get done.

People think people have jets for leisure. This guy busts his balls using a jet to work. Its a business tool.


Not sure if sarcastic or serious.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:06 am    Post subject:

rwongega wrote:
Laker Lover wrote:
Lots of haters, but the donations come from people's appreciation for his teachings that have brought personal improvement to their lives, marriage, relationships, finances, health etc.

His ministry is likely well over $100 million dollar a year cost operation with all the over head. The demand of his life and ministry require him to fly all over the world on a constant basis. He needs to get around efficiently. His previous lower end jet had 2 failures that nearly cost people their lives. Here he is making positive impacts on people all over the world and people have a problem with that. Well it takes money to get things done and he has plenty of supporters who understand that and gladly help the cause. Not everyone can feed the hungry around the world and clothe them and bring them a positive message, so they make contributions cause that is what these ministries do. His ministry has many outreaches to help people not only in the local community but all over the world. That takes money to get done.

People think people have jets for leisure. This guy busts his balls using a jet to work. Its a business tool.


Not sure if sarcastic or serious.


Probably a donor, trying to rationalize his contribution.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:22 am    Post subject:

How brainwashed or stupid can thousands of people be to donate money to an obvious scam artist?

Laker Lover, lmao, what the hell is a matter with you kid? I've seen you post the most nonsensical (bleep) on this site. You make pnp look like Newton. These last two post are easily in your top 18 or 19 Most Idiotic List.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:32 am    Post subject:

As the good folk at Jonestown once said, "Mmmmm, Kool-Aid."
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:43 am    Post subject:

I saw an article in which he actually said when he built his church he wanted a system that when someone paid their tithes a light would shine on them and music would play, when someone didnt red and blue light would shine on them and guards with uzis would gather them all in the front and they would shoot them out and then dump the bodies in a hole outside the church. He said he wanted to do this so he could have the maximum annointing in his church but Jesus compassion stops him from doing it


Dude is a con artist and a nut job
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:45 am    Post subject:

here is the actual quote and web page

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Now, you know, we’re under the Blood of Jesus, so we can’t shoot and stone people like we used to. All we have to do is repent and God will forgive us and take us where we need to be. But I can tell you, man, if it wasn’t for the Blood, there’d be a whole lot of us being stoned and being in Hell right now over the tithe. But for [“if not for”?] the Blood of Jesus, we’d be doomed.

I mean, I thought about when we first built “The Dome,” I wanted to put some of those little moving bars and give everybody a little card. They’d stick it in a little computer slot. If they were tithing, beautiful music would go off and, you know, [Creflo sings] “Welcome, welcome, welcome to the World Dome.” [Congregation laughs.]

But…if they were non-tithers, the bar would lock up, the red and blue lights would start going, the siren would go off, and a voice would go out throughout the entire dome, “Crook, crook, crook, crook!” [Congregation laughs.] Security would go and apprehend them, and once we got them all together, we’d line them up in the front and pass out Uzis by the ushers and point our Uzis right at all those non-tithing members ’cause we want God to come to church, and at the count of three “Jesus”-es we’d shoot them all dead. And then we’d take them out the side door there, have a big hole, bury them, and then go ahead and have church and have the anointing. [Mostly silence in the congregation, but one or two still actually laugh.]

Aren’t you glad we’re under the Blood of Jesus? [“Yeah, yeah,” from the congregation.] Because if we were not under the Blood of Jesus, I would certainly try it.

Folks, this is a serious thing.


http://kennethcopelandblog.com/2011/06/15/creflo-dollar-says-shoot-them-all-dead/


how can ya support and defend that
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:54 am    Post subject:

What exactly is the difference between him and most people who proselytize? This dude is makes a lot more money. Not much more.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:39 am    Post subject:

He's no different from Jim Bakker and the other televangelists you see on TV. These guys get rich while using religion as a business tool.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:23 pm    Post subject:

Anyone who profits from religion is not religious /eos
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:59 pm    Post subject:

Dladi Vidac wrote:
How brainwashed or stupid can thousands of people be to donate money to an obvious scam artist.


How do you think religion has been surviving for thousands of years? This guy just made it to the majors, that's all.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:30 pm    Post subject:

PLATNUM wrote:
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Fools and their money are soon parted.

More power to him, getting away with it because he got his degree from Jesus U.


Why?


Was kinda being facetious.

But at the same time... If sheeple are willingly going to hand out money to this guy in hopes of being delivered from evil ... Well, that's on them.


Being naive and easily manipulated is hardly something that makes it acceptable for dishonest people to exploit you - particularly under the guise of your religious beliefs.
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