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DuncanIdaho Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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When Jan Brewer vetoes the same bill, you know you messed up bad. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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I read in another thread that this isn't bigoted, merely narrow minded... _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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ElginBaylor Franchise Player
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Please don't judge the people of Indiana by how stupid our legislators are. At least not those of us who live in Bloomington. _________________ Not a legend |
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DuncanIdaho wrote: | When Jan Brewer vetoes the same bill, you know you messed up bad. |
She only vetoed it because of all the businesses that would've fled the state. Not to mention the bad PR that came with it. Don't forget the sway of the NFL who had threatened to put the Super Bowl elsewhere. |
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lakerjoshua Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:22 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't mind letting a few states go. Let them be their own toothless, broke, racist, bible thumping nation. We can put up big fences to keep them from trying to migrate and even create an armed militia to patrol the border in case them toothless bastards try and sneak across.... |
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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ElginBaylor wrote: | Please don't judge the people of Indiana by how stupid our legislators are. At least not those of us who live in Bloomington. |
+1 and in Indianapolis too (although I think its fair to judge those who voted for these idiots though)
That being said this should be vetoed by the SC and hopefully torpedo any c chance of Mike Pence ever being elected anywhere again.
I think people miss Mitch Daniels more than ever now. |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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24 wrote: | I read in another thread that this isn't bigoted, merely narrow minded... |
_________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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ElginBaylor wrote: | Please don't judge the people of Indiana by how stupid our legislators are. At least not those of us who live in Bloomington. |
I live in Bloomington. I don't even consider it a part of Indiana. IU makes it an island of sanity in a sea of bumbling, narrow-minded ignorance. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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lakerjoshua wrote: | I wouldn't mind letting a few states go. Let them be their own toothless, broke, racist, bible thumping nation. We can put up big fences to keep them from trying to migrate and even create an armed militia to patrol the border in case them toothless bastards try and sneak across.... |
And they are all about smaller Government as well. Let them have their own small Government . . . and all the logistics involved in making up for it. |
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Lakers_2000 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Title of this thread: "Indiana law that allows biz to reject gays"
Can you please show me where in the legislation business is allowed to "reject gays". Thank you. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | ElginBaylor wrote: | Please don't judge the people of Indiana by how stupid our legislators are. At least not those of us who live in Bloomington. |
I live in Bloomington. I don't even consider it a part of Indiana. IU makes it an island of sanity in a sea of bumbling, narrow-minded ignorance. |
I wouldn't exactly refer to you as a sea...
Jk _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Lakers_2000 wrote: | Title of this thread: "Indiana law that allows biz to reject gays"
Can you please show me where in the legislation business is allowed to "reject gays". Thank you. |
Ok, I'll take a few days hit for this. This is a stupid post by someone who is too stupid for words. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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24 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | ElginBaylor wrote: | Please don't judge the people of Indiana by how stupid our legislators are. At least not those of us who live in Bloomington. |
I live in Bloomington. I don't even consider it a part of Indiana. IU makes it an island of sanity in a sea of bumbling, narrow-minded ignorance. |
I wouldn't exactly refer to you as a sea...
Jk |
No prob, just go easy on the suspension _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know if this law means card carrying atheists can refuse to do business with Bible thumpers? |
Atheist's wouldn't really refuse to do business with bible thumpers since Atheist's aren't really exclusionary types. They don't generally try to hide behind some dogma to excuse their misbehaviour. What's more likely is Atheist's might use it to have a little fun. Perhaps take their money and then hand them a note that reads:
"God was hungry and decided eat your bagel and drink your Latte. He said you can take it up with him next sunday".
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"God said he had better use for that 50" Flatscreen than doing what you'd planned on doing with it. That's right, God knows what kind of porn you're into". _________________ I'm On point, On task, On message, and Off drugs. A Streetwise Smart Bomb, Out of rehab and In denial. Over the Top, On the edge, Under the Radar, and In Control. Behind the 8 ball, Ahead of the Curve and I've got a Love Child who sends me Hate mail. |
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Lakers_2000 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Lakers_2000 wrote: | Title of this thread: "Indiana law that allows biz to reject gays"
Can you please show me where in the legislation business is allowed to "reject gays". Thank you. |
Ok, I'll take a few days hit for this. This is a stupid post by someone who is too stupid for words. |
Your inability to answer a civil question with any civility or intelligence says enough about you. |
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Legacy Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers_2000 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Lakers_2000 wrote: | Title of this thread: "Indiana law that allows biz to reject gays"
Can you please show me where in the legislation business is allowed to "reject gays". Thank you. |
Ok, I'll take a few days hit for this. This is a stupid post by someone who is too stupid for words. |
Your inability to answer a civil question with any civility or intelligence says enough about you. |
Quote: | "Proponents have argued the bill doesn't target gays and lesbians specifically -- but that it does protect businesses that don't support same-sex marriage from having to provide services for those ceremonies." |
It's not in the bill itself bud. It's in the suggested religious beliefs. Hopefully you can understand that. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers_2000 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Lakers_2000 wrote: | Title of this thread: "Indiana law that allows biz to reject gays"
Can you please show me where in the legislation business is allowed to "reject gays". Thank you. |
Ok, I'll take a few days hit for this. This is a stupid post by someone who is too stupid for words. |
Your inability to answer a civil question with any civility or intelligence says enough about you. |
There are two options here:
A: KBCB is spot on about you.
B: You are taking being disingenuous to epic proportions.
Take your pick. |
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rwongega Franchise Player
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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rwongega wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | ElginBaylor wrote: | Please don't judge the people of Indiana by how stupid our legislators are. At least not those of us who live in Bloomington. |
I live in Bloomington. I don't even consider it a part of Indiana. IU makes it an island of sanity in a sea of bumbling, narrow-minded ignorance. |
My condolences. |
it's not bad. The university always has something going on. Jacobs School of Music is one of the best in the country. My daughters have seen more live Jazz than most people will ever see in their lives. There are great music teachers and my daughter has an incredible violin instructor. There is an incredible food scene in town and all kinds of cultural things going on. And the cost of living compared to my income is sweet. All, in all, I'd rather live in LA, DC or ATL, but with shared custody, we're here for at least 12 more years. I'm cool. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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Lakers_2000 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Legacy wrote: | Lakers_2000 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Lakers_2000 wrote: | Title of this thread: "Indiana law that allows biz to reject gays"
Can you please show me where in the legislation business is allowed to "reject gays". Thank you. |
Ok, I'll take a few days hit for this. This is a stupid post by someone who is too stupid for words. |
Your inability to answer a civil question with any civility or intelligence says enough about you. |
Quote: | "Proponents have argued the bill doesn't target gays and lesbians specifically -- but that it does protect businesses that don't support same-sex marriage from having to provide services for those ceremonies." |
It's not in the bill itself bud. It's in the suggested religious beliefs. Hopefully you can understand that. |
Since religious freedom distinction has been federal law for 20 years, and about 30 other states have their own similar law on top of it, you should be able to offer more than speculation if in fact this law is a stalking horse to discriminate against gays. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | Lakers_2000 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Lakers_2000 wrote: | Title of this thread: "Indiana law that allows biz to reject gays"
Can you please show me where in the legislation business is allowed to "reject gays". Thank you. |
Ok, I'll take a few days hit for this. This is a stupid post by someone who is too stupid for words. |
Your inability to answer a civil question with any civility or intelligence says enough about you. |
There are two options here:
A: KBCB is spot on about you.
B: You are taking being disingenuous to epic proportions.
Take your pick. |
Reiterating juvenile insults does not constitute an argument on your part.
If you believe that protecting religious freedom is not what the law is about, even though the law explicitly states that's what it does; and that it's really about "rejecting gays", even though the law says nothing about it, then you've got 20 years of federal law and 30 other states worth of data to prove your point. The standard name-calling does not suffice. |
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