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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:00 pm    Post subject:

Ellington took all Clarkson and Black's shots. Somehow Clarkson and Black definitely gets more touches playing with Lin.
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yeah, why did bs bring lin back in? the curious case of bs' rotation...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:01 pm    Post subject:

The Raptors starting backcourt wasn't better.

But they frontcourt and the bench outplayed the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:02 pm    Post subject:

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Player of the Game! Cabaclo. 2 TO and 1 Foul in 1 min! Way to get numbers on the board . . . worse, the camera is focusing on him. Clearly, the guy is nervous.


I felt bad for him.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:03 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:06 pm    Post subject:

so tank accomplished?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:11 pm    Post subject:

Even if you tank you don't have to be slaughtered. What is wrong with this coaching staff? Who is the bright one to put JC on point when all he does is ISO and shoot? Team assist 14 vs 25. You can tank and put on a show, but don't embarass the brand.

So we are paying how many millions to experiement? Well if they're experiementing then why are we wasting our time watching. Let us know when you're done experimenting LA... sshhhhish .

This lakers brand is mud right now.

This is a direct - a direct - reflection on the coaches (non-coaches), the GM who is allowing this to happen and the amateurish debautants of owners; and more importantly, on the "LAKERS' FANS" for allowing FO to think this is all right. Should change the name to "LA (Loosers Again) Lakers". Maybe the league should just send the entire franchise to the D-league - where they will fit just fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:16 pm    Post subject:

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....on the "LAKERS' FANS" for allowing FO to think this is all right.....


I agree with you on being embarrassed but I don't think it's fair to paint the entire Lakers' fan base agreeing with the tanking strategy


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:19 pm    Post subject:

sf2099 wrote:
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....on the "LAKERS' FANS" for allowing FO to think this is all right.....


I agree with you on being embarrassed but I at the same time, I don't think it's fair to paint the entire Lakers' fan base agreeing with the tanking strategy


Agreed. I'm not on team Tank.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:20 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson with 0 assists. Not a great showing for our PG of the future.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:20 pm    Post subject:

Clarkson with 0 assists. Not a great showing for our PG of the future.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:23 pm    Post subject:

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Clarkson with 0 assists. Not a great showing for our PG of the future.


Being a rookie, I would cut him a break.

I think he has the right stuff, but needs more polishing that comes with increased PT.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:26 pm    Post subject:

kastuul wrote:
Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball


Just stop my fd. Lin handled the ball 50% of the time this game. He doesn't need the ball 90% of the time to average 18/6 nowadays.

Do you really want him to duplicate the 25/9 game during Linsanity?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:28 pm    Post subject:

Anthony Peeler wrote:
Clarkson with 0 assists. Not a great showing for our PG of the future.


This is the comment that even annoyed me, as a huge Lin fan.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:44 pm    Post subject:

Lorenzomax wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball


Just stop my fd. Lin handled the ball 50% of the time this game. He doesn't need the ball 90% of the time to average 18/6 nowadays.

Do you really want him to duplicate the 25/9 game during Linsanity?


doesn't matter who handles the ball, as long as they are running BS offense more than 90% of the time, pg/sg means nothing.

but tankers will be happy.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:06 pm    Post subject:

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Oh great, now Ed Davis is in the game.

This is just great. Now winning on the road against a top 5 team in the East when this should be an easy loss for the Lakers.

GIVE ME A BREAK!


I missed the game, and just looked over game thread to see how it went.

Seems like a good loss. Nice.

I don't know if you all are aware how funny some of these posts are.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:09 pm    Post subject:

kastuul wrote:
Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball


The Lakers already have a SG in Kobe. Clarksonneeds to learn to play PG or he won't be a starter next season.

BTW, Clarkson's 6'5", taller than Ellington, but Ellingyon is a SG.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:10 pm    Post subject:

Lorenzomax wrote:
Anthony Peeler wrote:
Clarkson with 0 assists. Not a great showing for our PG of the future.


This is the comment that even annoyed me, as a huge Lin fan.


tru dat man, tru dat. sometimes i can not fault other fans ganging up and ridiculing us Lin fans for comments like this. no need to bring other players down just prop Lin.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:12 pm    Post subject:

did Lin have a block in this game? did not watch it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject:

maomao wrote:
Lorenzomax wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball


Just stop my fd. Lin handled the ball 50% of the time this game. He doesn't need the ball 90% of the time to average 18/6 nowadays.

Do you really want him to duplicate the 25/9 game during Linsanity?


doesn't matter who handles the ball, as long as they are running BS offense more than 90% of the time, pg/sg means nothing.

but tankers will be happy.


I think BS's offense changed quite a bit after the ASB. Though it is not all about pnrs, but they are finally allowed to play FAST. That's really important for Lin's style. If you have noticed, many of those assists by Lin were off the FASTBREAKS.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:21 pm    Post subject:

Great job tonight Lakers! Now lets lose the rest
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:31 pm    Post subject:

Lorenzomax wrote:
maomao wrote:
Lorenzomax wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball


Just stop my fd. Lin handled the ball 50% of the time this game. He doesn't need the ball 90% of the time to average 18/6 nowadays.

Do you really want him to duplicate the 25/9 game during Linsanity?


doesn't matter who handles the ball, as long as they are running BS offense more than 90% of the time, pg/sg means nothing.

but tankers will be happy.


I think BS's offense changed quite a bit after the ASB. Though it is not all about pnrs, but they are finally allowed to play FAST. That's really important for Lin's style.


Byron usually gives his players freedom in offense, the lakers pace is relatively fast all season... he does not spread the offense, he likes bigs more involved in operating, he does not like PnR dominating the whole offense which means the two men game..... the philosophy is not necessarily wrong, might be a good one, but they are lack of versatile bigs who can operate in the elbow, the high post, like Gasols...and his sets are lack of variety...
now, the approach is relatively simple, let Lin and JC push the tempo, attack in transition and Lin's PnRs...
Byron knows Lin's game, he said Lin is a guy that he can play him PnR all day... it just is that he does not like Lin's PnR dominating his whole offense... to some degree, you can't fault Byron on this
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:52 pm    Post subject:

Honeybadger81 wrote:
Lorenzomax wrote:
maomao wrote:
Lorenzomax wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball


Just stop my fd. Lin handled the ball 50% of the time this game. He doesn't need the ball 90% of the time to average 18/6 nowadays.

Do you really want him to duplicate the 25/9 game during Linsanity?


doesn't matter who handles the ball, as long as they are running BS offense more than 90% of the time, pg/sg means nothing.

but tankers will be happy.


I think BS's offense changed quite a bit after the ASB. Though it is not all about pnrs, but they are finally allowed to play FAST. That's really important for Lin's style.


Byron usually gives his players freedom in offense, the lakers pace is relatively fast all season... he does not spread the offense, he likes bigs more involved in operating, he does not like PnR dominating the whole offense which means the two men game..... the philosophy is not necessarily wrong, might be a good one, but they are lack of versatile bigs who can operate in the elbow, the high post, like Gasols...and his sets are lack of variety...
now, the approach is relatively simple, let Lin and JC push the tempo, attack in transition and Lin's PnRs...
Byron knows Lin's game, he said Lin is a guy that he can play him PnR all day... it just is that he does not like Lin's PnR dominating his whole offense... to some degree, you can't fault Byron on this


well, I don't care what he said, I'm just not seeing it on the court.

there is absolutely 0 reason to give to ball to black/sacre and even davis at the 3 point line and ask them to be merc gasol.

with the personal that we have, every play should be lin/clarkson pnr ball handler and black sets the pick up top, then you have 3 shooters all spread around.


tell me what % of plays are like that?

instead? we get one on one iso's, can't fault BS for this? come on
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:55 pm    Post subject:

purple.23 wrote:
yeah, why did bs bring lin back in? the curious case of bs' rotation...


Because Lin was sick. Scott was he's getting tough, let's make him tougher.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:55 pm    Post subject:

Honeybadger81 wrote:
Lorenzomax wrote:
maomao wrote:
Lorenzomax wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball


Just stop my fd. Lin handled the ball 50% of the time this game. He doesn't need the ball 90% of the time to average 18/6 nowadays.

Do you really want him to duplicate the 25/9 game during Linsanity?


doesn't matter who handles the ball, as long as they are running BS offense more than 90% of the time, pg/sg means nothing.

but tankers will be happy.


I think BS's offense changed quite a bit after the ASB. Though it is not all about pnrs, but they are finally allowed to play FAST. That's really important for Lin's style.


Byron usually gives his players freedom in offense, the lakers pace is relatively fast all season... he does not spread the offense, he likes bigs more involved in operating, he does not like PnR dominating the whole offense which means the two men game..... the philosophy is not necessarily wrong, might be a good one, but they are lack of versatile bigs who can operate in the elbow, the high post, like Gasols...and his sets are lack of variety...
now, the approach is relatively simple, let Lin and JC push the tempo, attack in transition and Lin's PnRs...
Byron knows Lin's game, he said Lin is a guy that he can play him PnR all day... it just is that he does not like Lin's PnR dominating his whole offense... to some degree, you can't fault Byron on this


That's what I tried to say but you detailed it very well here.

But one thing I'm so sure is ... the Lakers is a much better defensive team post the All Star weekend. They improved their speed on getting back to the other end and actually fought for the rebounds.

Lakers' DRTG, TO% & PACE
Pre-ASB 108.4 , 13.3 & 96.61
Post-ASB 103.0 , 14.0 & 95.99

PACE rises if you can't defend no one and being lazy to get back.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:58 pm    Post subject:

Lorenzomax wrote:
maomao wrote:
Lorenzomax wrote:
kastuul wrote:
Clarkson has 0 assist.
Maybe he should learn as a SG and let Lin handle the ball


Just stop my fd. Lin handled the ball 50% of the time this game. He doesn't need the ball 90% of the time to average 18/6 nowadays.

Do you really want him to duplicate the 25/9 game during Linsanity?


doesn't matter who handles the ball, as long as they are running BS offense more than 90% of the time, pg/sg means nothing.

but tankers will be happy.


I think BS's offense changed quite a bit after the ASB. Though it is not all about pnrs, but they are finally allowed to play FAST. That's really important for Lin's style. If you have noticed, many of those assists by Lin were off the FASTBREAKS.



agree, but 50% of the time lin doesn't get to bring the ball up. clarkson bringing it up is fine for development, but ellington dribbles too much, if he just be a spot up shooter, he would have higher fg %
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