Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:20 am Post subject: Crazy stat Bill and Stu mentioned I had to check
Kobe leads the team in field goal attempts still, at only 35 games played. Hill and Boozer, in 30 more games,have almost reached Kobe's pretty astounding and very depressing 713 field goal attempts but aren't quite there. Wow.
A little surprised people are surprised. Early in the year his usage rate was leading the league by a wide margin. What's surprising isn't that he took so many shots (he's always done that); it's that he combined taking so many shots with such a low TS% (worse than the average for any team). But he had an enabler as a coach.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:28 am Post subject:
Rugbar wrote:
A little surprised people are surprised. Early in the year his usage rate was leading the league by a wide margin. What's surprising isn't that he took so many shots (he's always done that); it's that he combined taking so many shots with such a low TS% (worse than the average for any team). But he had an enabler as a coach.
Since Kobe's been hurt, we've had one of the worse records in the league.
That tells me his high usage rate is a reflection on the roster talent as a whole...or lack thereof. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
A little surprised people are surprised. Early in the year his usage rate was leading the league by a wide margin. What's surprising isn't that he took so many shots (he's always done that); it's that he combined taking so many shots with such a low TS% (worse than the average for any team). But he had an enabler as a coach.
Since Kobe's been hurt, we've had one of the worse records in the league.
That tells me his high usage rate is a reflection on the roster talent as a whole...or lack thereof.
Since the Lakers were 12-31 when Kobe went out I would say they had one of the worst records before he got hurt too. Including some of the worst beat downs and widest margins were early in the season.
The roster was and is still limited. No starting level Centers or SFs on the roster. Kobe has always been a high volume shooter why would we be surprised with this group. It is an interesting statistic though.
I only hope if he decides to return next year he comes with the attitude to play nice with others. And embraces his mentoring role in his final season. Not sure he can do it but he needs to be more of the facilitator then the scorer IMO. Just not sure it is in his DNA.
A little surprised people are surprised. Early in the year his usage rate was leading the league by a wide margin. What's surprising isn't that he took so many shots (he's always done that); it's that he combined taking so many shots with such a low TS% (worse than the average for any team). But he had an enabler as a coach.
Since Kobe's been hurt, we've had one of the worse records in the league.
That tells me his high usage rate is a reflection on the roster talent as a whole...or lack thereof.
We were bad with him too. But it's hardly surprising we were worse without him. The roster is thin. What's more, we weren't tanking when Kobe was playing. The team has been in a "developmental tank" since the break, giving Clarkson loads of minutes despite a poor +/- until recently. (A move I applaud, by the way.) Now we're going full out on the tank by giving Hill's and Boozer's minutes to Sacre, Kelly and Black.
The offense was best when Kobe decided to become more of a facilitator. He should have been taking about 60-70% of the shots he was earlier in the year. And he should have been playing well under 30 minutes a game, considering his age and that he was coming off an injury. And when Kobe wasn't on the floor, Lin and Davis should have always been on the floor, making ample use of the pick and roll. Though the Lakers probably wouldn't have gone anywhere anyway, that would have given the team the best shot.
BS has made many bad decisions, especially with regard to handling Kobe.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:11 am Post subject:
Rugbar wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Rugbar wrote:
A little surprised people are surprised. Early in the year his usage rate was leading the league by a wide margin. What's surprising isn't that he took so many shots (he's always done that); it's that he combined taking so many shots with such a low TS% (worse than the average for any team). But he had an enabler as a coach.
Since Kobe's been hurt, we've had one of the worse records in the league.
That tells me his high usage rate is a reflection on the roster talent as a whole...or lack thereof.
We were bad with him too. But it's hardly surprising we were worse without him. The roster is thin. What's more, we weren't tanking when Kobe was playing. The team has been in a "developmental tank" since the break, giving Clarkson loads of minutes despite a poor +/- until recently. (A move I applaud, by the way.) Now we're going full out on the tank by giving Hill's and Boozer's minutes to Sacre, Kelly and Black.
The offense was best when Kobe decided to become more of a facilitator. He should have been taking about 60-70% of the shots he was earlier in the year. And he should have been playing well under 30 minutes a game, considering his age and that he was coming off an injury. And when Kobe wasn't on the floor, Lin and Davis should have always been on the floor, making ample use of the pick and roll. Though the Lakers probably wouldn't have gone anywhere anyway, that would have given the team the best shot.
BS has made many bad decisions, especially with regard to handling Kobe.
BS has made bad decisions.
But Kobe initially tore his rotator cuff pre-season. And he only played 32 minutes and 8 out of 16 games the month leading up to his last game (where he tore his cuff to the point of not being able to play anymore). That's a 16 MPG average over all games his last month of play. Wouldn't call that running him into the ground. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
A little surprised people are surprised. Early in the year his usage rate was leading the league by a wide margin. What's surprising isn't that he took so many shots (he's always done that); it's that he combined taking so many shots with such a low TS% (worse than the average for any team). But he had an enabler as a coach.
Since Kobe's been hurt, we've had one of the worse records in the league.
That tells me his high usage rate is a reflection on the roster talent as a whole...or lack thereof.
We were bad with him too. But it's hardly surprising we were worse without him. The roster is thin. What's more, we weren't tanking when Kobe was playing. The team has been in a "developmental tank" since the break, giving Clarkson loads of minutes despite a poor +/- until recently. (A move I applaud, by the way.) Now we're going full out on the tank by giving Hill's and Boozer's minutes to Sacre, Kelly and Black.
The offense was best when Kobe decided to become more of a facilitator. He should have been taking about 60-70% of the shots he was earlier in the year. And he should have been playing well under 30 minutes a game, considering his age and that he was coming off an injury. And when Kobe wasn't on the floor, Lin and Davis should have always been on the floor, making ample use of the pick and roll. Though the Lakers probably wouldn't have gone anywhere anyway, that would have given the team the best shot.
BS has made many bad decisions, especially with regard to handling Kobe.
BS has made bad decisions.
But Kobe initially tore his rotator cuff pre-season. And he only played 32 minutes and 8 out of 16 games the month leading up to his last game (where he tore his cuff to the point of not being able to play anymore). That's a 16 MPG average over all games his last month of play. Wouldn't call that running him into the ground.
But he had already been run into the ground earlier in the season...
He was definitely gunning for Jordan. The Lakers have been playing better without him for this particularly season. The only reason they have fewer wins than when Kobe was playing is because we're "developing young players" as opposed to trying to win games when he was playing.
He was definitely gunning for Jordan. The Lakers have been playing better without him for this particularly season. The only reason they have fewer wins than when Kobe was playing is because we're "developing young players" as opposed to trying to win games when he was playing.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:16 pm Post subject:
trunkz08 wrote:
He was definitely gunning for Jordan. The Lakers have been playing better without him for this particularly season. The only reason they have fewer wins than when Kobe was playing is because we're "developing young players" as opposed to trying to win games when he was playing.
Oh that's right and we would be in the playoff hunt if it wasn't for Kobe.
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:57 pm Post subject:
Lakers 4 eva wrote:
trunkz08 wrote:
He was definitely gunning for Jordan. The Lakers have been playing better without him for this particularly season. The only reason they have fewer wins than when Kobe was playing is because we're "developing young players" as opposed to trying to win games when he was playing.
Oh that's right and we would be in the playoff hunt if it wasn't for Kobe.
That's the defense you're going with? "Team sucks, so who cares?!"
He was definitely gunning for Jordan. The Lakers have been playing better without him for this particularly season. The only reason they have fewer wins than when Kobe was playing is because we're "developing young players" as opposed to trying to win games when he was playing.
Oh that's right and we would be in the playoff hunt if it wasn't for Kobe.
To be honest, as much as it hurt watching him miss all those shots, it was infinitely more entertaining than any game since the injury. And probably all of last season as well.
Still can't get the image of hill and nick young celebrating out of my head.
To be honest, as much as it hurt watching him miss all those shots, it was infinitely more entertaining than any game since the injury. And probably all of last season as well.
Still can't get the image of hill and nick young celebrating out of my head.
that's because ... you like to watch Kobe. there's other Lakers fans who likes watching the other Lakers players.........
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