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dmorans1
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| Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: |  Westbrook 
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Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
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Megaton
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| dmorans1 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | Westbrook
Love |
Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
Yep. You ride with them for better or worse. That is how rebuilding works yo.
That and I'm optimistic. They are very much worth the risk.
It's a much better risk too than paying 19+ mill per year for an injury prone Foward who can't defend a statue to save his life. |
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Roon
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| Megaton wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | Westbrook
Love |
Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
Yep. You ride with them for better or worse. That is how rebuilding works yo.
That and I'm optimistic. They are very much worth the risk.
It's a much better risk too than paying 19+ mill per year for an injury prone Foward who can't defend a statue to save his life. |
Yup, if two of the three:Clarkson, Randle and our top-5 don't look good in two years we will look like poop regardless of Love. |
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Megaton
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Roon wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | Westbrook
Love |
Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
Yep. You ride with them for better or worse. That is how rebuilding works yo.
That and I'm optimistic. They are very much worth the risk.
It's a much better risk too than paying 19+ mill per year for an injury prone Foward who can't defend a statue to save his life. |
Yup, if two of the three:Clarkson, Randle and our top-5 don't look good in two years we will look like poop regardless of Love. |
This guy gets it.
Love won't help the team into being a contender or even a playoff contender. He sure as hell didn't do that with Minny and he has been drastically exposed as well with the Cavs. Hell, Mosgav has been the best acquisition the Cavs made besides Lebron of course. |
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greenfrog
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Roon wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | Westbrook
Love |
Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
Yep. You ride with them for better or worse. That is how rebuilding works yo.
That and I'm optimistic. They are very much worth the risk.
It's a much better risk too than paying 19+ mill per year for an injury prone Foward who can't defend a statue to save his life. |
Yup, if two of the three:Clarkson, Randle and our top-5 don't look good in two years we will look like poop regardless of Love. |
Not necessarily. Historically the org has never relied on the draft for success. The first option is always stealing someone else's best player. |
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Megaton
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| greenfrog wrote: | | Roon wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | Westbrook
Love |
Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
Yep. You ride with them for better or worse. That is how rebuilding works yo.
That and I'm optimistic. They are very much worth the risk.
It's a much better risk too than paying 19+ mill per year for an injury prone Foward who can't defend a statue to save his life. |
Yup, if two of the three:Clarkson, Randle and our top-5 don't look good in two years we will look like poop regardless of Love. |
Not necessarily. Historically the orgh has never relied on the draft for success. The first option is always stealing someone else's best player. |
Stealing is a very weird way to put it.
Sure I guess, but it's also about getting a player who is actually worth it. Which Love is not. Westbrook is because he's freaking Russell Westbrook.
Replace Love with Westbrook or Durant, than you would have a point. But Love is neither of those guys or even close to it. The Knicks can have him for all I care. |
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Dave20
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone but Love, he's a empty stats player and he's already breaking down physically. We need more two way players, Love is one dimensional. |
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greenfrog
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Megaton wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Roon wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | Westbrook
Love |
Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
Yep. You ride with them for better or worse. That is how rebuilding works yo.
That and I'm optimistic. They are very much worth the risk.
It's a much better risk too than paying 19+ mill per year for an injury prone Foward who can't defend a statue to save his life. |
Yup, if two of the three:Clarkson, Randle and our top-5 don't look good in two years we will look like poop regardless of Love. |
Not necessarily. Historically the orgh has never relied on the draft for success. The first option is always stealing someone else's best player. |
Stealing is a very weird way to put it.
Sure I guess, but it's also about getting a player who is actually worth it. Which Love is not. Westbrook is because he's freaking Russell Westbrook.
Replace Love with Westbrook or Durant, than you would have a point. But Love is neither of those guys or even close to it. The Knicks can have him for all I care. |
I think he's worth it in the same way Pau Gasol was worth it. You just need to add the #1 guy. |
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If love and Westbrook want to reunite they are more than welcome to go to diddy riese in the offseason lol.
Love wouldn't do much on this team |
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Megaton
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Roon wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | Westbrook
Love |
Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
Yep. You ride with them for better or worse. That is how rebuilding works yo.
That and I'm optimistic. They are very much worth the risk.
It's a much better risk too than paying 19+ mill per year for an injury prone Foward who can't defend a statue to save his life. |
Yup, if two of the three:Clarkson, Randle and our top-5 don't look good in two years we will look like poop regardless of Love. |
Not necessarily. Historically the orgh has never relied on the draft for success. The first option is always stealing someone else's best player. |
Stealing is a very weird way to put it.
Sure I guess, but it's also about getting a player who is actually worth it. Which Love is not. Westbrook is because he's freaking Russell Westbrook.
Replace Love with Westbrook or Durant, than you would have a point. But Love is neither of those guys or even close to it. The Knicks can have him for all I care. |
I think he's worth it in the same way Pau Gasol was worth it. You just need to add the #1 guy. |
Love was, is, and will never be as good as prime Pau Gasol was.
Despite Gasol from time to time being soft on defense, he was mobile, blocked some shots, and played with effort.
And offense? Again forget about it. Pau was like a dream come true. The guy single handedly took his Memphis team to the playoffs two times. The guy was no question a freaking player. Just like he is right now with the Bulls with actual talent on the team.
Lakers have no talent...yet. Not the talent to rise to contender level. Love won't change that. He is not Gasol nor will he ever be. Gasol was because he can actually lead a team to the playoffs by himself, Love can't. Love makes a team stick the status quo.
Lakers don't have a #1 guy yet either so that part is irrelevant. Lakers need to develop a number 1 guy. Maybe that guy will be Randle? Or the top 5 pick? Or hell, maybe even Clarkson? Either way, we need a number 1 before we go after a number 2.
And looking at Love as even a number 3 right now at the Cavs, doesn't seem like he makes much of a difference. Spend that money on a player or two who would make a real difference with a team. |
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Dave20
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Love is a #3 or 4 option on a championship team. He's too bad defensively and athletically to give a $19m a year max contract too. |
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jankobe
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Towns/JOkafor
Randle/Love
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pio2u
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| If Love can help get Westbrook; Do it! But money will be a big issue. |
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youcantguardme
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Id take Westbrook any day and Love if he could learn to plan defense. |
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| The Faceman wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: | | Kobe2Jules wrote: | | lukewaltonsdad wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | The Faceman wrote: | | I'd rather have Marc Gasol than Kevin Love, personally. |
I'd rather have Anthony Davis than Marc Gasol, personally. |
I'd rather have a 23 year old LeBron James than Anthony Davis, personally. |
I'd rather have a 23 year Michael Jordan than Lebron James, personally. |
Personally, I'd prefer a 23 year old Tim Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, or Kareem. Always better to build around big men. |
I'd personal prefer to have a 23 yr old Wilt. |
Personally, I'd prefer a 23 year old Magic Johnson. We can get a guy that can play all 5 positions.  |
I was being realistic but if we're going that route, I'd rather have 23-year old Admiral General Aladeen and 23-year old Kenny Powers than Magic Johnson  . |
I'd rather have a 23 year old Kate Upton.......... oh wait.... she's only still 22 
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Startrout
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| 13thOverallPick wrote: | | The Faceman wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: | | Kobe2Jules wrote: | | lukewaltonsdad wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | The Faceman wrote: | | I'd rather have Marc Gasol than Kevin Love, personally. |
I'd rather have Anthony Davis than Marc Gasol, personally. |
I'd rather have a 23 year old LeBron James than Anthony Davis, personally. |
I'd rather have a 23 year Michael Jordan than Lebron James, personally. |
Personally, I'd prefer a 23 year old Tim Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, or Kareem. Always better to build around big men. |
I'd personal prefer to have a 23 yr old Wilt. |
Personally, I'd prefer a 23 year old Magic Johnson. We can get a guy that can play all 5 positions. |
I was being realistic but if we're going that route, I'd rather have 23-year old Admiral General Aladeen and 23-year old Kenny Powers than Magic Johnson . |
I'd rather have a 23 year old Kate Upton.......... oh wait.... she's only still 22 |
I'd rather have the 80s Lakers again. (And Kate) |
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PayasoLoco
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| Jonah hills fat brother just makes a living off bron and makig up rumors |
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fansincemagic
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| Startrout wrote: | | 13thOverallPick wrote: | | The Faceman wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: | | Kobe2Jules wrote: | | lukewaltonsdad wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | The Faceman wrote: | | I'd rather have Marc Gasol than Kevin Love, personally. |
I'd rather have Anthony Davis than Marc Gasol, personally. |
I'd rather have a 23 year old LeBron James than Anthony Davis, personally. |
I'd rather have a 23 year Michael Jordan than Lebron James, personally. |
Personally, I'd prefer a 23 year old Tim Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, or Kareem. Always better to build around big men. |
I'd personal prefer to have a 23 yr old Wilt. |
Personally, I'd prefer a 23 year old Magic Johnson. We can get a guy that can play all 5 positions. |
I was being realistic but if we're going that route, I'd rather have 23-year old Admiral General Aladeen and 23-year old Kenny Powers than Magic Johnson . |
I'd rather have a 23 year old Kate Upton.......... oh wait.... she's only still 22 |
I'd rather have the 80s Lakers again. (And Kate) |
I'd rather able to have a 23 year old James Naismith go straight to LA before he invented the sport and setup camps for years before....nah I'll take Kate, she's off the charts. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| If you want two players that will get stats but not many wins without the best player in the world on their team then Westbrook and Love are for you |
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TheKing23
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| I'd take both in exchange for the sorry assed team we have now. |
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kobeandgary
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| Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| Megaton wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Roon wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | dmorans1 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Troublesome626 wrote: | Westbrook
Love |
Indeed.
Westbrook, I'm as happy as my Cat with Roast Beef.
Love, might as well be signing to donate one of your lungs. |
The thinking is that Love may be a recruiting chip for Westbrook. |
Randle, Clarkson, the top 5 pick, etc. Those guys in 2017 when its all said and done will be the recruiting chips, not Love. |
So three guys who may or may not pan out are your recruiting chips? Yeah good luck with that. |
Yep. You ride with them for better or worse. That is how rebuilding works yo.
That and I'm optimistic. They are very much worth the risk.
It's a much better risk too than paying 19+ mill per year for an injury prone Foward who can't defend a statue to save his life. |
Yup, if two of the three:Clarkson, Randle and our top-5 don't look good in two years we will look like poop regardless of Love. |
Not necessarily. Historically the orgh has never relied on the draft for success. The first option is always stealing someone else's best player. |
Stealing is a very weird way to put it.
Sure I guess, but it's also about getting a player who is actually worth it. Which Love is not. Westbrook is because he's freaking Russell Westbrook.
Replace Love with Westbrook or Durant, than you would have a point. But Love is neither of those guys or even close to it. The Knicks can have him for all I care. |
I think he's worth it in the same way Pau Gasol was worth it. You just need to add the #1 guy. |
Love was, is, and will never be as good as prime Pau Gasol was.
Despite Gasol from time to time being soft on defense, he was mobile, blocked some shots, and played with effort.
And offense? Again forget about it. Pau was like a dream come true. The guy single handedly took his Memphis team to the playoffs two times. The guy was no question a freaking player. Just like he is right now with the Bulls with actual talent on the team.
Lakers have no talent...yet. Not the talent to rise to contender level. Love won't change that. He is not Gasol nor will he ever be. Gasol was because he can actually lead a team to the playoffs by himself, Love can't. Love makes a team stick the status quo.
Lakers don't have a #1 guy yet either so that part is irrelevant. Lakers need to develop a number 1 guy. Maybe that guy will be Randle? Or the top 5 pick? Or hell, maybe even Clarkson? Either way, we need a number 1 before we go after a number 2.
And looking at Love as even a number 3 right now at the Cavs, doesn't seem like he makes much of a difference. Spend that money on a player or two who would make a real difference with a team. |
Prime Gasol was a great player, and prime Kevin Love was capable of going out and getting you 30 and 30, so it's not like Kevin Love in his prime was a slouch. |
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| Cut down those quotes please. Makes things much more readable. |
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| For all the hype that he's getting, Westbrook is still shooting just 42% and 30% from three. He's a bigger Iverson, a volume shooting brick fest. You may think that a few percentage isn't a lot, but it is a big difference. Kobe shot around 45-46% at the top of his game, if he drops just a few %, you can absolutely see the difference in the quality of basketball. Kobe will give you that 10 for 30 night once in awhile, 5 for 18, etc. Westbrook is going to give you that on a consistent basis. Of course he'll grab 8 boards and dish out 10 dimes too. He's still a great player, but not the Batman that some are pumping him to be. If he's your best player, you can't win. And he'll be approaching 29 in 2017. If you're not an accurate shooter your entire 20's, you're not going to turn into one in your 30's. Not really a spring chicken, especially for his style of play. I see him as a bad contract in his 30's. |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | For all the hype that he's getting, Westbrook is still shooting just 42% and 30% from three. He's a bigger Iverson, a volume shooting brick fest. You may think that a few percentage isn't a lot, but it is a big difference. Kobe shot around 45-46% at the top of his game, if he drops just a few %, you can absolutely see the difference in the quality of basketball. Kobe will give you that 10 for 30 night once in awhile, 5 for 18, etc. Westbrook is going to give you that on a consistent basis. Of course he'll grab 8 boards and dish out 10 dimes too. He's still a great player, but not the Batman that some are pumping him to be. If he's your best player, you can't win. And he'll be approaching 29 in 2017. If you're not an accurate shooter your entire 20's, you're not going to turn into one in your 30's. Not really a spring chicken, especially for his style of play. I see him as a bad contract in his 30's. |
Westbrook has got 5-6 good, high level years left in him. That's good enough. |
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I think he's worth it in the same way Pau Gasol was worth it. You just need to add the #1 guy. |
Gasol led the Grizzlies to 3 playoff appearances. That's why he was a legit number 2.
Love isn't in that class. He only is comparable to Pau now because Pau has declined. And the comparison isn't too close. Even past his prime, Pau started on the East all star team.
Pau is the only player to make the all-star team for 3 different organizations since....I don't know.
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