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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Laker_Town wrote: | cant openly say your tanking unless youre sixers FO |
No team has said they are tanking, including Philadelphia. And I wouldn't necessarily call what they're doing tanking. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:01 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | I don't blame Byron for tanking (and lying about it) as he's been instructed to.
In fact I give him credit for towing the company line at the detriment of his own coaching record and credibiility. Something MDA wouldn't do last season. |
Well, 1-9 start certainly didn't help when he was unquestionably trying to win. |
...in the west...without Nash (9 mill of roster space), Randle (top draft pick), or Swaggy (coming off career year).
Kobe was there to be fair though....with an unknown, partially torn rotator cuff that occurred before the start of the season. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:02 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | I don't blame Byron for tanking (and lying about it) as he's been instructed to.
In fact I give him credit for towing the company line at the detriment of his own coaching record and credibiility. Something MDA wouldn't do last season. |
Well, 1-9 start certainly didn't help when he was unquestionably trying to win. |
...in the west...without Nash (9 mill of roster space), Randle (top draft pick), or Swaggy (coming off career year).
Kobe was there to be fair though....with an unknown, partially torn rotator cuff that occurred before the start of the season. |
But he wasn't towing the "tank line" b/c there wasn't a company "tank line" at that time. That's my point. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:04 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | kikanga wrote: | I don't blame Byron for tanking (and lying about it) as he's been instructed to.
In fact I give him credit for towing the company line at the detriment of his own coaching record and credibiility. Something MDA wouldn't do last season. |
Well, 1-9 start certainly didn't help when he was unquestionably trying to win. |
...in the west...without Nash (9 mill of roster space), Randle (top draft pick), or Swaggy (coming off career year).
Kobe was there to be fair though....with an unknown, partially torn rotator cuff that occurred before the start of the season. |
But he wasn't towing the "tank line" b/c there wasn't a company "tank line" at that time. That's my point. |
Ya...we sucked.
I think MDA is a superior X's and O's coach. I just Know he wouldnt have benched Boozer, Lin, and Davis last night for the good of the pick. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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cyrus_the_virus Sixth Man
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Byron Scott is the Laker's version of Bagdad Bob. |
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Vin Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I don't expect a coach to say or do anything else. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:15 am Post subject: |
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PICKnPOP wrote: | I'm happy with Byron Scott. He's building a winning culture and that takes time. It all started in training camp with kobe, Nash, and boozer working hard and not complaining about how difficult the camp was. Clarkson and randle saw that. They also saw how Ronnie price, a career third string guard won the starting job because of his work ethic.
Clarkson and randle will come into camp with the right mentality and they will be rewarded. You cut the team cancers and bad influences this summer like swaggy P or anyone else who challenged the coaches authority this season. You bring in hard workers and professionals to set a good example and continue to grow.
It takes time to build a winning culture. Have patience |
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Fruscas Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:19 am Post subject: |
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zePokar wrote: | I don't expect a coach to say or do anything else. |
Yup, this is a non issue imo. Like, i understand all Scott's criticism but that's related to actual coaching and team management. No coach can admit to tanking, the day one does, all national and international press will pick the issue and make a big stir about it. It would be really really dumb to admit to such thing if you're the coach, imo. |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:34 am Post subject: |
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Ireland on ESPN is talking on 710 right now and agrees Lakers should've lost last night, but says Lakers aren't tanking and that Byron Scott was told by the Front Office to still keep winning games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:49 am Post subject: |
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If a placeholder coach wins them out of the lottery, the FO/ownership will have pretty much validated their lowly ESPN rankings. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | Ireland on ESPN is talking on 710 right now and agrees Lakers should've lost last night, but says Lakers aren't tanking and that Byron Scott was told by the Front Office to still keep winning games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play
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Jumbo Buss was called a GM dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
He thought the team should try to wi-in dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:57 am Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | If a placeholder coach wins them out of the lottery, the FO/ownership will have pretty much validated their lowly ESPN rankings. |
That would be sad. |
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | Ireland on ESPN is talking on 710 right now and agrees Lakers should've lost last night, but says Lakers aren't tanking and that Byron Scott was told by the Front Office to still keep winning games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play
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Regarding the bolded, exactly what does this mean? Boozer, Lin and Davis got DNPs. Top minutes guys were Ryan Kelly, Wes Johnson, Rookie Jordan Clarkson and Wayne Ellington. They only played 8 guys. Not much more you could have done from a lineup standpoint. Is he saying the players themselves should throw the game intentionally, subjecting themselves to possible massive fines?
What else could we have done to lose that game? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | Ireland on ESPN is talking on 710 right now and agrees Lakers should've lost last night, but says Lakers aren't tanking and that Byron Scott was told by the Front Office to still keep winning games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play
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Regarding the bolded, exactly what does this mean? Boozer, Lin and Davis got DNPs. Top minutes guys were Ryan Kelly, Wes Johnson, Rookie Jordan Clarkson and Wayne Ellington. They only played 8 guys. Not much more you could have done from a lineup standpoint. Is he saying the players themselves should throw the game intentionally, subjecting themselves to possible massive fines?
What else could we have done to lose that game? |
I would have subbed in Black at the PG spot. I want to see his point-center skills. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | ocho wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | Ireland on ESPN is talking on 710 right now and agrees Lakers should've lost last night, but says Lakers aren't tanking and that Byron Scott was told by the Front Office to still keep winning games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play
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Regarding the bolded, exactly what does this mean? Boozer, Lin and Davis got DNPs. Top minutes guys were Ryan Kelly, Wes Johnson, Rookie Jordan Clarkson and Wayne Ellington. They only played 8 guys. Not much more you could have done from a lineup standpoint. Is he saying the players themselves should throw the game intentionally, subjecting themselves to possible massive fines?
What else could we have done to lose that game? |
I would have subbed in Black at the PG spot. I want to see his point-center skills. |
Just completely irresponsible of the FO to not demand Byron showcase Black's point-center skills. Speaks to organizational incompetence. |
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RCS926 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | ocho wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | Ireland on ESPN is talking on 710 right now and agrees Lakers should've lost last night, but says Lakers aren't tanking and that Byron Scott was told by the Front Office to still keep winning games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play
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Regarding the bolded, exactly what does this mean? Boozer, Lin and Davis got DNPs. Top minutes guys were Ryan Kelly, Wes Johnson, Rookie Jordan Clarkson and Wayne Ellington. They only played 8 guys. Not much more you could have done from a lineup standpoint. Is he saying the players themselves should throw the game intentionally, subjecting themselves to possible massive fines?
What else could we have done to lose that game? |
I would have subbed in Black at the PG spot. I want to see his point-center skills. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | ocho wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | Ireland on ESPN is talking on 710 right now and agrees Lakers should've lost last night, but says Lakers aren't tanking and that Byron Scott was told by the Front Office to still keep winning games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play
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Regarding the bolded, exactly what does this mean? Boozer, Lin and Davis got DNPs. Top minutes guys were Ryan Kelly, Wes Johnson, Rookie Jordan Clarkson and Wayne Ellington. They only played 8 guys. Not much more you could have done from a lineup standpoint. Is he saying the players themselves should throw the game intentionally, subjecting themselves to possible massive fines?
What else could we have done to lose that game? |
I would have subbed in Black at the PG spot. I want to see his point-center skills. |
Just completely irresponsible of the FO to not demand Byron showcase Black's point-center skills. Speaks to organizational incompetence. |
Actually, I need to see Sacre's 3 point shooting too. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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RCS926 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | ocho wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | Ireland on ESPN is talking on 710 right now and agrees Lakers should've lost last night, but says Lakers aren't tanking and that Byron Scott was told by the Front Office to still keep winning games.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play
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Regarding the bolded, exactly what does this mean? Boozer, Lin and Davis got DNPs. Top minutes guys were Ryan Kelly, Wes Johnson, Rookie Jordan Clarkson and Wayne Ellington. They only played 8 guys. Not much more you could have done from a lineup standpoint. Is he saying the players themselves should throw the game intentionally, subjecting themselves to possible massive fines?
What else could we have done to lose that game? |
I would have subbed in Black at the PG spot. I want to see his point-center skills. |
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Mason actually said that Byron should've played Sacre in 4th and OT who had the worst +\- in the game. _________________ |
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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9 games left and five of them very winnable.
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Just call me *** wrote: | (bleep) moron. |
Sums up what I feel about Byron Scott right about now.
pjiddy wrote: | 9 games left and five of them very winnable.
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Great. Watch Coach Barnacles (Scott) and boy genius (Clarkson) make that dream come true. _________________ A proud member of LakersGround.net for over 10 years [since April 28, 2001]
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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orwell wrote: | pjiddy wrote: | 9 games left and five of them very winnable.
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Yes, watch Coach Barnacles (Scott) and boy genius (Clarkson) make that dream come true. |
You're mad at Clarkson? |
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orwell Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | orwell wrote: | pjiddy wrote: | 9 games left and five of them very winnable.
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Yes, watch Coach Barnacles (Scott) and boy genius (Clarkson) make that dream come true. |
You're mad at Clarkson? |
Not impressed. In order to guarantee the top 4 pick, all he had to do was miss the shot knowing there are not much to look forward to this season. Dumb move. "Stupid is what stupid does." _________________ A proud member of LakersGround.net for over 10 years [since April 28, 2001]
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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orwell wrote: | ocho wrote: | orwell wrote: | pjiddy wrote: | 9 games left and five of them very winnable.
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Yes, watch Coach Barnacles (Scott) and boy genius (Clarkson) make that dream come true. |
You're mad at Clarkson? |
Not impressed. All he had to do was miss the shot knowing there are not much to look forward to this season. Dumb move. "Stupid is what stupid does." |
So you adtually want Clarkson to start his Laker career by intentionally throwing games? Yikes. |
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JayLida Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | lakers4life78 wrote: | Retread, stubborn, stale, awful coach who only got hired because he was part of the Showtime Lakers, as if that has anything to do with coaching. |
I'm interested in the next coach that the Lakers will pick. Hoping that they won't be stingy with the $. Go get a real coach when we have real talent. I guess Scott is fine as the interim until Kobe retires. |
Okay so what coach should the Lakers get? What coach is available? Finally what coach that's available WILL SATISFY LG? All there is on this board is (bleep) and moaning about Byron when clearly its not Byron's coaching that's making this team terrible. Dare I say injuries have 85% to do with why the Lakers suck? _________________ Winning is all that matters!! |
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K0BEE 2.0 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding, is that the Lakers have designed a plan for this summer and 16' by throwing out the Draft window..... the Lakers have so much flexibility in the next few years that they can build a great team even without adding a top stud in the NBA draft..... some fans want everything to be perfect.... but with all the new rules coming up in the next CBA the Lakers only chance to build a great team is through FA and that's it. |
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