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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:49 am    Post subject: Two Lakers in this Week's NBA Rookie Ladder

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This Week's NBA Rookie Ladder:
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1. Nerlens Noel, Philadelphia 76ers
2. Andrew Wiggins, Minnesota Timberwolves
3. Elfrid Payton, Orlando Magic
4. Nikola Mirotic, Chicago Bulls
5. Jordan Clarkson, L.A. Lakers
6. Langston Galloway, New York Knicks
7. Marcus Smart, Boston Celtics
8. Zach LaVine, Minnesota Timberwolves
9. Jusuf Nurkic, Denver Nuggets
10. Tarik Black, L.A. Lakers
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With averages of seven points and eight rebounds in 25.3 minutes per game since our last ladder, Black has done enough to sneak into the final spot. Viewed alongside his full-season accomplishments (Black ranks seventh in player efficiency rating and third in win shares among rookies), those recent stats provide enough support to slot him ahead of the other rookies.
Since the last rookie rankings, Jordan Clarkson has posted averages of 17.7 points, 5.9 assists and 4.9 rebounds.
Those are awesome stats for anyone, let alone a rookie, and it appears the Lakers have quality talent on their hands.


http://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/04/01/2014-15-rookie-ladder-week-22/index.html


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:51 am    Post subject:

I am surprised that Mirotic isn't higher.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Two Lakers in this Week's NBA Rookie Ladder

pio2u wrote:
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This Week's NBA Rookie Ladder:
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1. Nerlens Noel, Philadelphia 76ers
2. Andrew Wiggins, Minnesota Timberwolves
3. Elfrid Payton, Orlando Magic
4. Nikola Mirotic, Chicago Bulls
5. Jordan Clarkson, L.A. Lakers
6. Langston Galloway, New York Knicks
7. Marcus Smart, Boston Celtics
8. Zach LaVine, Minnesota Timberwolves
9. Jusuf Nurkic, Denver Nuggets
10. Tarik Black, L.A. Lakers
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With averages of seven points and eight rebounds in 25.3 minutes per game since our last ladder, Black has done enough to sneak into the final spot. Viewed alongside his full-season accomplishments (Black ranks seventh in player efficiency rating and third in win shares among rookies), those recent stats provide enough support to slot him ahead of the other rookies.
Since the last rookie rankings, Jordan Clarkson has posted averages of 17.7 points, 5.9 assists and 4.9 rebounds.
Those are awesome stats for anyone, let alone a rookie, and it appears the Lakers have quality talent on their hands.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:06 am    Post subject:

Since the last rookie rankings:

* Jordan Clarkson has posted averages of 17.7 points, 5.9 assists and 4.9 rebounds.

* Tarik Black has averaged of 7.0 points and 8.0 in 25.3 minutes per game.

Those are awesome stats for anyone, let alone a rookie, and it appears the Lakers have quality talent on their hands.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject:

Hopefully he gets 1st team all rookie.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:12 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Hopefully he gets 1st team all rookie.


My guess is it's Wiggins, Noel, Mirotic, Payton and Nurkic. Clarkson has to at least make 2nd team though.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:21 am    Post subject:

Nice to hear something positive about the young guys.

Curious about opinions of how Black should be used next year.

At Center or PF? Likely a backup at either position.

IMO he is a PF. A bit too small to be center. But his game is based on effort. Not offensive skills. I have not seen much offensive consistency outside of a few feet. Would need to to pair him with an offensively skilled center for spacing and scoring.

Do not like the defense or rebounding of him at C with Kelly at PF.

I like him as a player just find him hard place within a rotation.

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:25 am    Post subject:

I think that Black is better suited as a backup center.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:25 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
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Hopefully he gets 1st team all rookie.


My guess is it's Wiggins, Noel, Mirotic, Payton and Nurkic. Clarkson has to at least make 2nd team though.


He's been better than Nurkic, IMO. I think he has a chance to take that 5th spot.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:27 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
I think that Black is better suited as a backup center.


Agreed, he could play some PF but he needs to expand his range for that.

Definitely an energy guy off the bench at center.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:45 am    Post subject:

Clarkson > Smart

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A thought: Jordan Clarkson is making an increasingly strong case for All-Rookie First Team.

https://twitter.com/LakersReporter/status/582764906937774081
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:09 am    Post subject:

Black makes zero sense to me though. this class has been a huge disappointment
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:10 am    Post subject:

Ryan West really freaking killed it with going after Clarkson.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:12 am    Post subject:

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Ryan West really freaking killed it with going after Clarkson.


Some people have been saying that Nash is also to thank, for the mentoring.

I was really hating Nash this year but looking at what Clarkson is doing, I've definitely switched my opinion of him (Nash), again.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:15 am    Post subject:

People are sleeping on Tarik. He is going to have a solid career in the NBA as a good role player/glorified garbage man with monster athletic ability, size, and work ethic.

Love what he brings to the table.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:17 am    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
27 wrote:
Ryan West really freaking killed it with going after Clarkson.


Some people have been saying that Nash is also to thank, for the mentoring.

I was really hating Nash this year but looking at what Clarkson is doing, I've definitely switched my opinion of him (Nash), again.


sure, i won't take that credit away from Nash at all. Getting Clarkson and the way he was developed (with Nash's help) has been the only bright spot this season
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:08 am    Post subject:

Bout time the NBA noticed.

Tarik now fills the role Jordan Hill used to be good at. Garbage/energy 4/5 off the bench. Goodbye J Chill.

If Clarkson doesn't make the 1st team it will be a travesty
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:20 am    Post subject:

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People are sleeping on Tarik. He is going to have a solid career in the NBA as a good role player/glorified garbage man with monster athletic ability, size, and work ethic.

Love what he brings to the table.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:43 pm    Post subject:

27 wrote:
Ryan West really freaking killed it with going after Clarkson.


How do we know it was specifically Ryan?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:09 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Hopefully he gets 1st team all rookie.


My guess is it's Wiggins, Noel, Mirotic, Payton and Nurkic. Clarkson has to at least make 2nd team though.


No way does Nurkic make it over Clarkson.

Elfrid Payton
Jordan Clarkson
Andrew Wiggens
Mirotic
Nerlens Noel

That will and should be all first rookie team.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:17 pm    Post subject:

JC is number 2 among rookies in PER @16.5 behind Mirotic.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:17 pm    Post subject:

Should be

Clarkson
Brown
Randle
Black
Sacre

but whatever
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:24 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
27 wrote:
Ryan West really freaking killed it with going after Clarkson.


How do we know it was specifically Ryan?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:29 pm    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
Nice to hear something positive about the young guys.

Curious about opinions of how Black should be used next year.

At Center or PF? Likely a backup at either position.

IMO he is a PF. A bit too small to be center. But his game is based on effort. Not offensive skills. I have not seen much offensive consistency outside of a few feet. Would need to to pair him with an offensively skilled center for spacing and scoring.

Do not like the defense or rebounding of him at C with Kelly at PF.

I like him as a player just find him hard place within a rotation.

Thoughts?


He actually made a jumper last night. If he can develop that part of his game, there's no reason why he can't play the 4 on a consistent basis.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 1:31 pm    Post subject:

What a freakin' pick. Very excited/encouraged by the Ryan West era.
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