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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 7:29 am    Post subject:

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The fact that she's bragging about her Journalism degree is laughable. She probably didn't touch any hard courses her entire time at college.


*Insert sex joke (using the word hard) implying she hooked up with her professors for good grades.
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At least put a name to it....


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/19/anonymous-espn-employees-reportedly-want-mchenry-out/

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Anonymous ESPN employees reportedly want McHenry out

The notorious tow-lot video featuring ESPN reporter Britt McHenry has sparked plenty of strong reactions among media and fans. According to TMZ (via TheBigLead.com), strong reactions have occurred within ESPN, too.

Multiple employees of the four-letter network reportedly think McHenry should be and/or will be fired in the aftermath of her four-letter, mean-spirited, I’m-better-than-you rant caught on video — and on audio — at an undisclosed location at an unknown date and time.

Suspended for a week by ESPN, some unnamed co-workers think McHenry eventually will be suspended for good. Regardless of how this plays out, let’s take an opportunity on a somewhat slow Sunday to take a closer look at some of the risks raised by taking employment action against someone for an incident occurring beyond the boundaries of his or her employment.

There’s a saying in the legal profession that bad facts make bad law. In other words, when something happens that cries out for a specific outcome, the rules can get twisted to lead to that outcome without regard to the precedent it sets. In this specific case, the precedent possibly becomes that anything an on-air employee at ESPN says or does while off the clock can be the basis for discipline or discharge, even without behavior that would result in an arrest.

Should that be the standard for any employee? I’ve argued for years that the NFL shouldn’t reach into the urine of a player to determine whether he is or isn’t smoking marijuana or using other recreational drugs that don’t enhance performance. Why should ESPN be able to impose discipline based whether an on-air employee treats another person rudely while not at work?

And what amounts to rude behavior? Refusing to sign an autograph? Not leaving enough of a tip at a restaurant? Bumping into someone without saying, “Excuse me”?

Yes, McHenry played the “I’m in the news” card, but she never said she works for ESPN and there’s no reason to believe she was working for ESPN at the time she made those remarks. Does every ESPN on-air employee now have to worry about anything and everything they say in any setting, even when they’re not working?

On one hand, if ESPN employees don’t treat other people the way McHenry treated the person behind the counter at the tow lot, it won’t be a problem. On the other hand, why does any employer have the right to take action against someone for something they did on their own time when that behavior has no relevance to the person’s job performance?

There’s also the question of whether McHenry knew her words were being recorded. While it doesn’t excuse the behavior, surveillance cameras typically capture only video and not audio because the recording of audio amounts to a potential wiretapping violation. Even in a jurisdiction where only one party must consent to the conversation being record (in this case, the tow-lot employee), a private conversation between two people at the counter while the tow-lot employee was away from the window would potentially violate the law. In McHenry’s case, the original video was presented in a way that suggests she saw the camera before saying some of the worst things she said; if she had no reason to believe the camera also had a microphone, her decision to continue with the tirade after spotting the camera becomes a bit less confusing.

Again, none of this makes her conduct acceptable. The real question becomes whether the disclosure of the audio and the ensuing embarrassment is punishment enough, or whether ESPN has the ability to take action against her for something that happened away from work. The audience can choose not to like or respect her; is that sufficient (absent evidence of widespread channel-changing when she appears on screen) to justify taking her off the air?

Then there are the notorious Chris Berman on-set but off-air videos. From a profanity-laced rant against the crew for moving around while he was on the air to an extended explanation of how to smuggle codeine from Canada to creepy flirtations with a female colleague, Berman never faced any scrutiny or discipline when comments he made appeared online. While he never singled out any one person for demeaning comments, Berman’s behavior happened while he was on the clock for ESPN. McHenry’s didn’t.

There’s no easy answer to this one. Regardless of whether McHenry deserves to be heavily criticized for her comments to the tow-lot employee (and the court of public opinion has concluded that she does), the question of whether she deserves to be suspended or eventually fired by ESPN becomes far more complicated when considering how the precedent will apply going forward — and when contemplating how this standard would have or should have applied in past cases of recorded comments made by other ESPN employees under circumstances far more closely connected to the employment relationship.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:37 pm    Post subject:

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Can you imagine if a prominent athlete said this? ESPN wouldn't be able to stop talking about this. But whenever it's one of their own, they just quietly sweep it under the rug. Lol.


The popular athlete doesn't represent ESPN. Cmon!
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The business' Yelp page is getting flooded.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/advanced-towing-arlington


That Dennis F. guy really seems to enjoy getting towed.


A lot of the reviews seem to mimic the reporter's comments. Can't say I am surprised.


This seems overblown. The person she yelled at probably deserved it.


Yeah from what I understand the girl she yelled at has a reputation for being rude and nasty to customers and that comments she made to Britt were cut from the edited video released to the public.

The video looks bad - the girl obviously shouldn't have said what she said and she deserved to be suspended but people need to keep in mind they are only getting one side of the story with this (edited) video. (The towing company has apparently declined to released the full unedited version showing the entire conversation between Britt and the cashier.)

I live in Arlington, VA and have been towed by this company (and even been to the exact same office location Britt went to pick up my car). In my experience they are rude, unsympathetic, and accusatory when you try to explain the situation so not at all surprised by the negative Yelp comments. It's well known in Arlington that this company is scum.

A small example of their predatory practices - the central Golds Gym location in Arlington is right down the street from this company; Golds contracts with them to tow cars from their parking lot. Around closing time you'll usually see one of their tow trucks waiting in the lot to tow cars literally 5 minutes after the gym has closed since technically you're not allowed to park in the lot after hours even if you have a Golds Gym permit. So sometimes you'll see gym customers who were a little bit late showering and putting clothes on getting their cars towed out of an otherwise empty lot.

Another issue here is in one section of the parking lot, one row of spaces is reserved for Golds Gym while another row adjacent to it is reserved for some other stores within the same facility. The spaces aren't that clearly marked so you'll sometimes see gym customers (in particular new customers or customers from other Golds Gym locations who don't know any better) park one space over in the wrong row and still get towed without warning even if they have a valid Golds Gym permit. I guess technically these people are in the wrong but it's still messed up...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:07 am    Post subject:

Osei wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Cutheon wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
The business' Yelp page is getting flooded.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/advanced-towing-arlington


That Dennis F. guy really seems to enjoy getting towed.


A lot of the reviews seem to mimic the reporter's comments. Can't say I am surprised.


This seems overblown. The person she yelled at probably deserved it.


Yeah from what I understand the girl she yelled at has a reputation for being rude and nasty to customers and that comments she made to Britt were cut from the edited video released to the public.

The video looks bad - the girl obviously shouldn't have said what she said and she deserved to be suspended but people need to keep in mind they are only getting one side of the story with this (edited) video. (The towing company has apparently declined to released the full unedited version showing the entire conversation between Britt and the cashier.)

I live in Arlington, VA and have been towed by this company (and even been to the exact same office location Britt went to pick up my car). In my experience they are rude, unsympathetic, and accusatory when you try to explain the situation so not at all surprised by the negative Yelp comments. It's well known in Arlington that this company is scum.

A small example of their predatory practices - the central Golds Gym location in Arlington is right down the street from this company; Golds contracts with them to tow cars from their parking lot. Around closing time you'll usually see one of their tow trucks waiting in the lot to tow cars literally 5 minutes after the gym has closed since technically you're not allowed to park in the lot after hours even if you have a Golds Gym permit. So sometimes you'll see gym customers who were a little bit late showering and putting clothes on getting their cars towed out of an otherwise empty lot.

Another issue here is in one section of the parking lot, one row of spaces is reserved for Golds Gym while another row adjacent to it is reserved for some other stores within the same facility. The spaces aren't that clearly marked so you'll sometimes see gym customers (in particular new customers or customers from other Golds Gym locations who don't know any better) park one space over in the wrong row and still get towed without warning even if they have a valid Golds Gym permit. I guess technically these people are in the wrong but it's still messed up...


Well if they are predatory, the sure preyed on the right woman. The kind of things she said (whether provoked or not) are things that come a sense of self-entitlement and douchebaggery that originate from poor character - as her lame "apology" demonstrates.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 9:20 am    Post subject:

Osei wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Cutheon wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
The business' Yelp page is getting flooded.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/advanced-towing-arlington


That Dennis F. guy really seems to enjoy getting towed.


A lot of the reviews seem to mimic the reporter's comments. Can't say I am surprised.


This seems overblown. The person she yelled at probably deserved it.


Yeah from what I understand the girl she yelled at has a reputation for being rude and nasty to customers and that comments she made to Britt were cut from the edited video released to the public.

The video looks bad - the girl obviously shouldn't have said what she said and she deserved to be suspended but people need to keep in mind they are only getting one side of the story with this (edited) video. (The towing company has apparently declined to released the full unedited version showing the entire conversation between Britt and the cashier.)

I live in Arlington, VA and have been towed by this company (and even been to the exact same office location Britt went to pick up my car). In my experience they are rude, unsympathetic, and accusatory when you try to explain the situation so not at all surprised by the negative Yelp comments. It's well known in Arlington that this company is scum.

A small example of their predatory practices - the central Golds Gym location in Arlington is right down the street from this company; Golds contracts with them to tow cars from their parking lot. Around closing time you'll usually see one of their tow trucks waiting in the lot to tow cars literally 5 minutes after the gym has closed since technically you're not allowed to park in the lot after hours even if you have a Golds Gym permit. So sometimes you'll see gym customers who were a little bit late showering and putting clothes on getting their cars towed out of an otherwise empty lot.

Another issue here is in one section of the parking lot, one row of spaces is reserved for Golds Gym while another row adjacent to it is reserved for some other stores within the same facility. The spaces aren't that clearly marked so you'll sometimes see gym customers (in particular new customers or customers from other Golds Gym locations who don't know any better) park one space over in the wrong row and still get towed without warning even if they have a valid Golds Gym permit. I guess technically these people are in the wrong but it's still messed up...


That's really the landlord's responsibility to go with a different towing company, or change the tow hours.

Sure the tow company are being asses, but if I owned the gym I would not put up with it. If I do put up with it, then that shows what I think of my customers.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 5:52 pm    Post subject:

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Britt McHenry grateful for second chance





Second chances don't come along too often so Britt McHenry is thankful for this one.

The ESPN personality was suspended for one week following the shocking video of her berating a parking lot attendant after her car was towed. McHenry was slandered on social media, many calling for the worldwide leader to part ways with the reporter. The company responded with a light suspension and McHenry is trying to her best to get back to normal, covering the Capitals-Islanders game on Saturday.


McHenry took to Twitter to thank those willing to give her a second chance.

The statement reads as follows:

"Back to work. Excited to be covering Caps-Isles today. Now that the suspension is over, I want to say again that I'm so sorry for my recent hurtful actions. My remarks were completely out of line. Under no circumstances is it ever acceptable to speak to another human being in the manner in which I chose that night. That's not who I am as a person and hope those who only know me from this incident will give me a second chance to prove to you how much I value integrity, character and treating people with respect. — Britt"

Only time will tell if McHenry is able to live this scandal down.
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http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

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ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"
When the 30-year-old sportscaster went viral for an outburst caught on camera, her life imploded. Now, in a MarieClaire.com exclusive, she reveals what happened next.


The Twitter storm began on one of the best days of my career.

I was in New York City for the National Hockey League playoffs in the spring of 2015. The biggest star of the league had agreed to talk to ESPN on camera exclusively. As both a journalist and die-hard hockey fan, I was beyond elated to get to do the interview. Afterward, feeling pretty empowered, I went to grab some lunch. That's when I glanced at Twitter.

I learned that a video of me had been posted online. In it, I said some regrettable things in a moment of anger: I had lashed out at the employee of a towing company after my car had been towed, insulting her on the basis of her personal appearance, job, and education.

And with that, I would experience the highest of professional highs and the lowest of personal lows in just one hour.

A sports blogger quickly called, asking for comment about the video. My stomach dropped. Then my bosses called, recommending that I return home to Washington, D.C. On the train, dozens of texts poured in from friends, family, coaches, and players who had seen or heard about the video. They said they knew it didn't represent my true character. "You will get through this," they said.

It was advice I needed. Right then on the train, a CNN breaking-news alert hit my phone—and I was the BREAKING NEWS.

The video took off like wildfire across the media and blogosphere. To make matters worse, when I arrived home, I received a different kind of text message: My childhood soccer coach, a friend and mentor I had grown up with, had just died. He was one of the most important figures in my adolescent life.

It's difficult to recall what came next, other than a foggy memory of walking toward a security car parked outside the train station in Washington. My company had hired a security detail to pick me up because people had begun physically threatening me online. I remember feeling a sense of numbness, even though I had tears streaming down my face. I wanted to wake up from this bad dream.


An avalanche of posts and tweets followed. With each new post, I felt like my life was imploding all over again. Soon more than 30,000 new people had started following me on Twitter, tweeting threats and insults I can't repeat. I truly feared for my life. So much so that I eventually filed a police report for my protection.

I was suspended from work for a week. I hibernated, not leaving my place other than to walk my dog. When I turned on the television, it seemed like people were talking about the video on every channel. Assumptions were made about me, my life, and, most hurtfully, my family.

I know that as a public figure, scrutiny comes with the territory, and it can be magnified massively by a mistake. But my parents are the most decent people you will ever meet. My dad served in the Air Force for more than 20 years and did a tour in Iraq. He dedicated his life to serving all types of people in this country. My mother, a former hairdresser and salon designer, put her career aside to raise my sister and me. She's a two-time cancer survivor who lost her left eye to the disease at a very young age. Imagine how she felt, hearing that her own daughter had insulted a woman about her looks when she had been bullied about her own as a child.



Tabloid reporters from as far away as the United Kingdom showed up at my parents' home in Florida. I'll never forget the distraught phone call I got from my mother that day. Neither of my parents deserved any criticism. In no way did my family have a sense of entitlement or come from any kind of wealth, as some commenters incorrectly assumed.

My parents gave me every opportunity possible—I was the one who failed them.

I knew I had brought all of this on myself. I apologized on Twitter and meant it. I felt awful about the hurtful words that had come out of my mouth in the exchange with the towing company employee. No matter the tenor of the conversation, I never should have responded in such a personal way.

"I WOULD EXPERIENCE THE HIGHEST OF PROFESSIONAL HIGHS AND THE LOWEST OF PERSONAL LOWS IN JUST ONE HOUR."
Amid the chaos, I tried not to look at the tornado of vulgar and sexist insults online. In fact, I told myself that the only way to survive the onslaught was to avoid it. So I went back to work, telling myself to focus. As a result of what had happened to me personally, I believed I had to prove my professional credibility all over again, starting from zero—actually, from less than zero. Every time somebody questioned why I still had a job, my goal was to break news and show them why. I put blinders on, concentrating on the next assignment, not letting myself unravel.

A couple of months later, I finally started reading the posts about me online. Bloggers called me "vile," a "bleach-blonde bubblehead," and "a sorry excuse for a human being." I would stay up late at night, torturing myself with Google searches, punishing myself for what I had done and reminding myself that this nightmare was real.

It's hard to describe how it feels to have people dislike you when they don't even know you. It takes a toll on your mind and body alike. In fact, in dealing with all the stress, the vision in my right eye grew cloudy. I could no longer see clearly; everything was a blur. I went to a retinal specialist, who diagnosed me with CSR, a condition in which vision is impaired, often due to trauma or extreme stress. Neither medication nor time helped alleviate the problem. I had no choice but to start a series of injections directly into my eye to try to regain my vision and prevent further damage. The first time I watched the needle approach my eye (yes, you're awake for this!), I broke down, halting the process until I could regain my composure. I was a wreck, not so much because of the injection, but because of what had brought me to that point.

It would become the first of endless injections, and I still flinch every time. The doctor says the vision in my eye might never improve.


I blame myself for all of this. But the video is not who I am. I'm telling this story because I want people to know the real me, to understand the true story about my upbringing, and how that night changed everything. It's my hope that someone reading this can learn from it and avoid the same pitfall.

When I was growing up in Florida, my parents encouraged me to play sports from a young age—soccer, softball, and basketball. I took to soccer the most, playing in high school and in my freshman year at a small liberal arts school in Florida called Stetson University. In college, I held various summer jobs, including working for a store that sold T-shirts and sandals. There, I learned how to recite the lyrics to every Jimmy Buffet song and how to fold a T-shirt perfectly, which I still do to this day.

During my senior year, I landed an internship at ABC News in Washington. I fell in love with broadcast journalism—I was intoxicated by the fast-paced schedule, the storytelling, and the people I met while assisting photographers on Capitol Hill. I knew what I wanted to do and became a woman on a mission, graduating a semester early.



I applied to the Medill School at Northwestern to get a degree in journalism. It was a dream to attend the same school that has produced some of the most prominent members of the media today. In fact, many of my current colleagues at ESPN studied there. I couldn't afford the tuition without financial assistance, so I took out student loans. Like most people my age, I'm still paying them off.

After finishing grad school in 2008, I got a job at the ABC affiliate in Washington. It was a trial-and-error process for me, with a major learning curve. I started as a business reporter and didn't have a camera crew, so I set up the camera, filmed myself, and edited all of my own pieces. After a year or so, I talked to my boss about covering sports. He said it was fine if I wanted to do it, but only on my own time and my own dime. So that's what I did.

"I KNEW I HAD BROUGHT ALL OF THIS ON MYSELF. I FELT AWFUL ABOUT THE HURTFUL WORDS THAT HAD COME OUT OF MY MOUTH."
On a visit home to see my parents, I reported on spring training for the Washington Nationals since, coincidentally, they practiced 30 minutes away. I was excited that the station used the footage, but bummed that none of my own reporting made air.

Still, it paid off. When the network needed someone to fill in as a sports anchor over an Easter holiday, my boss called me. It turned out to be a big news day in the sports world: The quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles was traded to the Washington Redskins. As fate would have it, I was the only one on the scene for coverage. It was a sink-or-swim moment. Soon after, I had a contract as a sports reporter.

Six years later, in the spring of 2014, I got a job at ESPN covering professional football, hockey, and baseball. Again, I had a lot to learn. In those three leagues alone, there are nearly 100 different teams, and a slew of people to know as you switch back and forth between sports. You write your own material, and there is no teleprompter when you go on air from the field. I jumped right in, networking and studying up. I got exclusive interviews; I broke news.

I was 27 years old and felt like I was on my way. Of course, it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows. I was dealing with the same kinds of challenges that many single women in their 20s face: insecurities, long work hours, and the occasional loneliness. But I loved my career.


Then, one fateful night in the spring of 2015, about a year after I started the job, I returned home from an assignment and drove to a restaurant with a friend. After dinner, rather than getting back into my car, which was parked in the restaurant lot, we walked across the street to say hello to another friend. An hour or so later, I came out to discover that my car was gone. It had been towed. It was a holiday and a quiet Sunday evening, which meant parking was free on the streets and the lot had plenty of space. But you're not supposed to park in the lot, if, at any moment, you step off the restaurant premises.

I rushed to pick up my car from the impound lot that night. During a conversation with an employee that was unpleasant in both directions, I lost my cool and went way overboard. To this day, I constantly think, why not just pay the bill and walk away? But when you speak in times of anger and emotion, you're not thinking clearly. The video of the incident that later circulated online was edited, making it look like I was the one doing all the talking, but I never should have said what I did. It will forever be something I'm embarrassed about and will regret.

Eventually, people turn their attention to a new scandal. But I know the posts about me will live forever online. They're the first things that pop up when you Google my name. When I meet people, I wonder what they're thinking. If I go out on a date, I feel a need to explain myself before the guy even gets to know me. I wonder: What is his family going to think of me? Would they accept me? The most important thing I could ever dream of having is my own family. I try to tell myself that when I meet someone who truly loves me, he and his family will still embrace me—flaws and all.

In general, people I meet face-to-face have been understanding. I'll be reporting on a game, and if the video comes up, they'll say, "Hey, we all make mistakes." I'm grateful for those human moments. I'm grateful for my family, and for the support I received from colleagues in my darkest moments. I'll always appreciate the viewers who continue to welcome me into their homes.

My goal now is to turn my experience into something positive. I'm getting ready to speak in high schools about how to be mindful of your words, how to be self-aware.

The most difficult speech will be the one I have to give to my future children someday. Every parent wants their kids to be proud of them, and unfortunately, I'll have to use myself as an example of how not to behave, a hard truth I think about daily. But I can advise them on how to cope if you get shamed online or bombarded by hateful posts, because at the end of the day, none of that vitriol matters. For me, the key has been to focus on the present and on how to make myself a better person every day.

I know now that as soon as you feel an empowering moment of success, you can experience a moment of utter failure just as fast. It's what you do after those moments that defines you. None of us should be judged solely by our worst mistakes. And, when you get the opportunity, you should work as hard as you can to prove that.
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I'm going to stand by what I said at the time of the incident: this whole public shaming/internet vigilante culture is so obnoxious.

A scumbag company and some rude employee baited someone into a tirade and then tried to claim victim status. That's all it is.
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It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.
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ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


So you've never said anything you regretted?

Like she apologized and tried to learn from the incident, what else do you want her to do?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:11 pm    Post subject:

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http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

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It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


So you've never said anything you regretted?

Like she apologized and tried to learn from the incident, what else do you want her to do?


I'm guessing he wouldn't mind taking her out on a date?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:18 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
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Basketball Fan wrote:
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

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ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


So you've never said anything you regretted?

Like she apologized and tried to learn from the incident, what else do you want her to do?


You clearly missed the entire point.
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DaMuleRules wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

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ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


So you've never said anything you regretted?

Like she apologized and tried to learn from the incident, what else do you want her to do?


You clearly missed the entire point.


So are you are claiming to have *literally* never said anything you later regretted while angry.

Okay then.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:09 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

Quote:
ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


I don't agree with this at all people do and say bizarre things when they are completely stressed, frustrated or seeking attention. Those actions don't make them who they are as a person
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:11 pm    Post subject:

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I'm going to stand by what I said at the time of the incident: this whole public shaming/internet vigilante culture is so obnoxious.


You kidding me? Unfortunately this is how it's gonna be now and forever. This public shaming culture has evolved in the last 15 years and now it is the norm. It's like the olden days where the towns people can throw rotten tomatoes at the person face. Social media is the new rotten tomato

Hell we even do it here on LG to each other


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I'm going to stand by what I said at the time of the incident: this whole public shaming/internet vigilante culture is so obnoxious.


You kidding me? Unfortunately this is how it's gonna be now and forever. This culture has evolved in the last 15 years and now it is the norm.

Hell we even do it here on LG to each other


Are you saying that you disagree with me that it's obnoxious, or are you agreeing with me but saying it's here to stay?
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CandyCanes wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

Quote:
ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


So you've never said anything you regretted?

Like she apologized and tried to learn from the incident, what else do you want her to do?


You clearly missed the entire point.


So are you are claiming to have *literally* never said anything you later regretted while angry.

Okay then.


No. AS I said, you are clearly missing the point.

One can regret what one says in anger, but regretting something doesn't erase the content, context or motivation behind it.

Plenty of people have regretted saying or doing something they completely intended to say or do and fully meant at the time.

Regret does not erase intent.
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999 wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

Quote:
ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


I don't agree with this at all people do and say bizarre things when they are completely stressed, frustrated or seeking attention. Those actions don't make them who they are as a person


People don't randomly come up with insults they don't perceive to be insults in the first place.

You don't verbally attack someone on a specific basis unless you view that as a derisive thing and mean it to diminish the other person. Which is why this whole, "that's not who I am" is a BS excuse. You said it. The words did not come from some random word generator. They came from your mind and formulated from your thoughts.

There's a huge difference between calling someone you don't know a "fill in the blank" in the heat of the moment and targeting someone with specific derision based on physical appearance and perceived social status.

You don't say the kinds of things this woman did unless you ARE the person who would say those kinds of things.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:54 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

Quote:
ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


So you've never said anything you regretted?

Like she apologized and tried to learn from the incident, what else do you want her to do?


You clearly missed the entire point.


So are you are claiming to have *literally* never said anything you later regretted while angry.

Okay then.


No. AS I said, you are clearly missing the point.

One can regret what one says in anger, but regretting something doesn't erase the content, context or motivation behind it.

Plenty of people have regretted saying or doing something they completely intended to say or do and fully meant at the time.

Regret does not erase intent.


Let me re-phrase then: You have never once said in anger something that would not accurately represent your values or beliefs?

And it is not possible for her to have learned or grown from this incident? What exactly is it that you want her to do?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:05 am    Post subject:

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999 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
I'm going to stand by what I said at the time of the incident: this whole public shaming/internet vigilante culture is so obnoxious.


You kidding me? Unfortunately this is how it's gonna be now and forever. This culture has evolved in the last 15 years and now it is the norm.

Hell we even do it here on LG to each other


Are you saying that you disagree with me that it's obnoxious, or are you agreeing with me but saying it's here to stay?


no i am agreeing with you


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DaMuleRules wrote:
999 wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

Quote:
ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


I don't agree with this at all people do and say bizarre things when they are completely stressed, frustrated or seeking attention. Those actions don't make them who they are as a person


People don't randomly come up with insults they don't perceive to be insults in the first place.

You don't verbally attack someone on a specific basis unless you view that as a derisive thing and mean it to diminish the other person. Which is why this whole, "that's not who I am" is a BS excuse. You said it. The words did not come from some random word generator. They came from your mind and formulated from your thoughts.

There's a huge difference between calling someone you don't know a "fill in the blank" in the heat of the moment and targeting someone with specific derision based on physical appearance and perceived social status.

You don't say the kinds of things this woman did unless you ARE the person who would say those kinds of things.


although i dont agree with her... its not like she knew the person on the other side of the window. I think she did nothing more than spew a hateful rant based on a visual and rude aspect of the clerk and a perceived aspect on how the towing business is.

She was the one who parked illegally, she gets towed, she throws a tantrum based on the rude clerk behavior and the nature of the towing business. You cannot demonize her for the rest of her life that she some entitled tramp based on this exchange.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:55 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
999 wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
http://www.marieclaire.com/culture/news/a24045/espn-britt-mchenry-viral-video-apology/

Quote:
ESPN's Britt McHenry: "I Blame Myself, but the Video Is Not Who I Am"


It is who she is.

It's understandable to get angry when you feel you've been treated unfairly and rudely. We've all been there.

But how you handle that anger and what you say while venting it are a very pure indication of your character. She said the things she did because when in that state where you let your feelings be know, you strip off the filters you might normally use. No one suddenly becomes the person the aren't in such situations. People reveal the person they are inside when anger and rage strip their social filters off.


I don't agree with this at all people do and say bizarre things when they are completely stressed, frustrated or seeking attention. Those actions don't make them who they are as a person


People don't randomly come up with insults they don't perceive to be insults in the first place.

You don't verbally attack someone on a specific basis unless you view that as a derisive thing and mean it to diminish the other person. Which is why this whole, "that's not who I am" is a BS excuse. You said it. The words did not come from some random word generator. They came from your mind and formulated from your thoughts.

There's a huge difference between calling someone you don't know a "fill in the blank" in the heat of the moment and targeting someone with specific derision based on physical appearance and perceived social status.

You don't say the kinds of things this woman did unless you ARE the person who would say those kinds of things.


Yeah, I can agree and tend to believe that that's who she was, whether she believes she was or not. But in having followed her a bit since the incident and after reading the article I do get the strong impression that the negative attention/backlash genuinely humbled her - that's she's gained some perspective and grown (characterwise) from the incident. Would highly doubt she'd make the same mistake again even when cameras aren't around but that's just my opinion. But it is possible to gain perspective and grow from incidents like this.

With that said, I was not impressed with the article overall - she seemed to be playing the victim more than anything else.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:05 am    Post subject:

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Let me re-phrase then: You have never once said in anger something that would not accurately represent your values or beliefs?

And it is not possible for her to have learned or grown from this incident? What exactly is it that you want her to do?


He's made clear that your question is premised on a misunderstanding of his point. So why do you continue to re-ask and "re-phrase" the same question over and over, then? Rephrased, it still misses the point.
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That pity party article did not help her case at all. I wonder if she got that out in a desperate attempt to be relevant again.
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