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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:42 am    Post subject: It's Spending Time (Updated w/new Cap Projections)

Another Kevin Ding article. At least Kupchak gets it.

"You really have to change the way you think about valuing players," Kupchak said. "A player today who is a $5 million player may be a $9 million player just a year from now. And that could be hard for a lot of people to wrap their arms around."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon



The NBA has sent a new set of salary cap projections to all 30 teams.

For the 2015-16 season, the cap is projected at $67.1 million with the tax at $81.6 million.

For the 2016-17 season, the cap is projected at $89 million with the tax at $108 million.

For the 2017-18 season, the cap is projected to reach $108 million with the tax at $127 million.


http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237470/NBA-Projects-Salary-Cap-To-Reach-$108M-For-17-18-Season
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:59 am    Post subject:

Looking forward to seeing what Kupchak and the Lakers can get for their $ this summer!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: It's Spending Time

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Another Kevin Ding article. At least Kupchak gets it.

"You really have to change the way you think about valuing players," Kupchak said. "A player today who is a $5 million player may be a $9 million player just a year from now. And that could be hard for a lot of people to wrap their arms around."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon


Sounds like something a GM would say before spending heavy on Rondo or Love.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:26 pm    Post subject:

People have been putting down my Danny Green type 4years/48million dollar and Tyson Chandler 3years/36million contract proposals. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:28 pm    Post subject:

This might upset those who support the punt or build through the draft.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:32 pm    Post subject: Article: Lakers are Ready to Spend even if they have to Overpay

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon

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The Lakers will spend this summer. They hope they can spend on a new superstar such as Kevin Love. But perhaps it has to be an excellent player without particular cachet such as Greg Monroe. If the market doesn't go their way and they have to settle for two good players, that's not ideal, but so be it.

In any case, it's time to offer the kind of contract commitments that push deep into the future and draw legit players, because this is the last chance the Lakers have to capitalize on the salary-cap space they have hoarded the last few years.

The Lakers will have even more spending power in 2016 than the competition when Kobe Bryant's league-high salary comes off their books. Despite Bryant's not committing to retirement after next season, Kupchak said: "I think that's all he's planning on."

Bryant's retirement has been part of the Lakers' planning all along.

The Lakers' losing the once-heralded crew of Howard, Gasol, Steve Nash and eventually Bryant all for nothing—while still paying the price in future draft picks, makes it obvious that the best way to recover is to bring in talent for nothing via free agency.

The Lakers have been limited in their ability to gamble on anything less than top-shelf talent because of their pledge to preserve that cap space for when a superstar is ready to come aboard.

Now, though, there's nothing really stopping the Lakers from extending financial commitments into the future, knowing they'll still be able to make huge offers in 2016 when the salary cap might rocket from $67 million to $91 million.

So, overpaying in 2015 when they have bullets to fire that others don't makes complete sense. The caveat is naturally that you're much better off if whomever you choose proves worthy of investment.

"We have the ability to recruit and sign at least one max player this summer," Kupchak said.

Gone are the days of signing filler on short-term contracts and hoping someone such as Chris Kaman or Jordan Hill achieves consistency—otherwise known as the Wesley Johnson era in Lakers history—with long-shot courtships of LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony not panning out.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:32 pm    Post subject:

[quote="venturalakersfan"]This might upset those who support the punt or build through the draft.[/quote We could very easily do both. Randle and our draft picks are extremely valuable moving forward due to there reasonable contracts compared to free agents with salaries going up. Does anybody know if rookie contracts will go up with the cap movies up? If they are fixed then, we better keep them and consider buying more picks as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:33 pm    Post subject:

The media is so desperate for the Lakers to sign big name players despite Mitch already saying they won't spend cap space just for the sake of spending.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:34 pm    Post subject:

Deja vu. I see a merge or lock in this thread's future.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:35 pm    Post subject:

good.. just don't trade our pick (if we manage to keep it)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:36 pm    Post subject:

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Gone are the days of signing filler on short-term contracts and hoping someone such as Chris Kaman or Jordan Hill achieves consistency—otherwise known as the Wesley Johnson era in Lakers history—with long-shot courtships of LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony not panning out.


Great line. Really hope that's true too. Looking forward to getting some established talent here long term.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:36 pm    Post subject:

I don't see anything wrong with signing Danny Green to a fat contract. At 28, he is still young, is a great shooter, great defender and has championship experience.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: It's Spending Time

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Another Kevin Ding article. At least Kupchak gets it.

"You really have to change the way you think about valuing players," Kupchak said. "A player today who is a $5 million player may be a $9 million player just a year from now. And that could be hard for a lot of people to wrap their arms around."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon


Preparing the fandom before offering a $15.5M contract to Khris Middleton
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Article: Lakers are Ready to Spend even if they have to Overpay

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon

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The Lakers will spend this summer. They hope they can spend on a new superstar such as Kevin Love. But perhaps it has to be an excellent player without particular cachet such as Greg Monroe. If the market doesn't go their way and they have to settle for two good players, that's not ideal, but so be it.

In any case, it's time to offer the kind of contract commitments that push deep into the future and draw legit players, because this is the last chance the Lakers have to capitalize on the salary-cap space they have hoarded the last few years.

The Lakers will have even more spending power in 2016 than the competition when Kobe Bryant's league-high salary comes off their books. Despite Bryant's not committing to retirement after next season, Kupchak said: "I think that's all he's planning on."

Bryant's retirement has been part of the Lakers' planning all along.

The Lakers' losing the once-heralded crew of Howard, Gasol, Steve Nash and eventually Bryant all for nothing—while still paying the price in future draft picks, makes it obvious that the best way to recover is to bring in talent for nothing via free agency.

The Lakers have been limited in their ability to gamble on anything less than top-shelf talent because of their pledge to preserve that cap space for when a superstar is ready to come aboard.

Now, though, there's nothing really stopping the Lakers from extending financial commitments into the future, knowing they'll still be able to make huge offers in 2016 when the salary cap might rocket from $67 million to $91 million.

So, overpaying in 2015 when they have bullets to fire that others don't makes complete sense. The caveat is naturally that you're much better off if whomever you choose proves worthy of investment.

"We have the ability to recruit and sign at least one max player this summer," Kupchak said.

Gone are the days of signing filler on short-term contracts and hoping someone such as Chris Kaman or Jordan Hill achieves consistency—otherwise known as the Wesley Johnson era in Lakers history—with long-shot courtships of LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony not panning out.


Wonder if we will try to court Marc and Aldridge.
Maybe we'll go for Love immediately. It'll be interesting to see who we set as a priority first.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:41 pm    Post subject:

(in response to Scoob's post0 I agree, do both. And throw in trades as well if they present themselves. There are just some that wouldn't trade the lottery pick even if it is a good deal and just want to rebuild by letting the young guys develop. You are spot on, it will be a mixture of youth and vets.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: It's Spending Time

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KobeRe-Loaded wrote:
Another Kevin Ding article. At least Kupchak gets it.

"You really have to change the way you think about valuing players," Kupchak said. "A player today who is a $5 million player may be a $9 million player just a year from now. And that could be hard for a lot of people to wrap their arms around."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon


Preparing the fandom before offering a $15.5M contract to Khris Middleton


Indeed.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Article: Lakers are Ready to Spend even if they have to Overpay

kikanga wrote:
Iron Mamba wrote:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon

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The Lakers will spend this summer. They hope they can spend on a new superstar such as Kevin Love. But perhaps it has to be an excellent player without particular cachet such as Greg Monroe. If the market doesn't go their way and they have to settle for two good players, that's not ideal, but so be it.

In any case, it's time to offer the kind of contract commitments that push deep into the future and draw legit players, because this is the last chance the Lakers have to capitalize on the salary-cap space they have hoarded the last few years.

The Lakers will have even more spending power in 2016 than the competition when Kobe Bryant's league-high salary comes off their books. Despite Bryant's not committing to retirement after next season, Kupchak said: "I think that's all he's planning on."

Bryant's retirement has been part of the Lakers' planning all along.

The Lakers' losing the once-heralded crew of Howard, Gasol, Steve Nash and eventually Bryant all for nothing—while still paying the price in future draft picks, makes it obvious that the best way to recover is to bring in talent for nothing via free agency.

The Lakers have been limited in their ability to gamble on anything less than top-shelf talent because of their pledge to preserve that cap space for when a superstar is ready to come aboard.

Now, though, there's nothing really stopping the Lakers from extending financial commitments into the future, knowing they'll still be able to make huge offers in 2016 when the salary cap might rocket from $67 million to $91 million.

So, overpaying in 2015 when they have bullets to fire that others don't makes complete sense. The caveat is naturally that you're much better off if whomever you choose proves worthy of investment.

"We have the ability to recruit and sign at least one max player this summer," Kupchak said.

Gone are the days of signing filler on short-term contracts and hoping someone such as Chris Kaman or Jordan Hill achieves consistency—otherwise known as the Wesley Johnson era in Lakers history—with long-shot courtships of LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony not panning out.


Wonder if we will try to court Marc and Aldridge.
Maybe we'll go for Love immediately. It'll be interesting to see who we set as a priority first.


I am sure they will contact the agents of all 3.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: It's Spending Time

22 wrote:
KobeRe-Loaded wrote:
Another Kevin Ding article. At least Kupchak gets it.

"You really have to change the way you think about valuing players," Kupchak said. "A player today who is a $5 million player may be a $9 million player just a year from now. And that could be hard for a lot of people to wrap their arms around."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon


Preparing the fandom before offering a $15.5M contract to Khris Middleton


More like 20 M to Kevin Love
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: It's Spending Time

dabask11 wrote:
22 wrote:
KobeRe-Loaded wrote:
Another Kevin Ding article. At least Kupchak gets it.

"You really have to change the way you think about valuing players," Kupchak said. "A player today who is a $5 million player may be a $9 million player just a year from now. And that could be hard for a lot of people to wrap their arms around."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon


Preparing the fandom before offering a $15.5M contract to Khris Middleton


More like 20 M to Kevin Love


not if he opts in
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: It's Spending Time

dabask11 wrote:
22 wrote:
KobeRe-Loaded wrote:
Another Kevin Ding article. At least Kupchak gets it.

"You really have to change the way you think about valuing players," Kupchak said. "A player today who is a $5 million player may be a $9 million player just a year from now. And that could be hard for a lot of people to wrap their arms around."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon


Preparing the fandom before offering a $15.5M contract to Khris Middleton


More like 20 M to Kevin Love


20 M from the Knicks is more like it.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:57 pm    Post subject:

I just don't want them to overspend or spend money just cause they have cap space
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Article: Lakers are Ready to Spend even if they have to Overpay

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kikanga wrote:
Iron Mamba wrote:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon

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The Lakers will spend this summer. They hope they can spend on a new superstar such as Kevin Love. But perhaps it has to be an excellent player without particular cachet such as Greg Monroe. If the market doesn't go their way and they have to settle for two good players, that's not ideal, but so be it.

In any case, it's time to offer the kind of contract commitments that push deep into the future and draw legit players, because this is the last chance the Lakers have to capitalize on the salary-cap space they have hoarded the last few years.

The Lakers will have even more spending power in 2016 than the competition when Kobe Bryant's league-high salary comes off their books. Despite Bryant's not committing to retirement after next season, Kupchak said: "I think that's all he's planning on."

Bryant's retirement has been part of the Lakers' planning all along.

The Lakers' losing the once-heralded crew of Howard, Gasol, Steve Nash and eventually Bryant all for nothing—while still paying the price in future draft picks, makes it obvious that the best way to recover is to bring in talent for nothing via free agency.

The Lakers have been limited in their ability to gamble on anything less than top-shelf talent because of their pledge to preserve that cap space for when a superstar is ready to come aboard.

Now, though, there's nothing really stopping the Lakers from extending financial commitments into the future, knowing they'll still be able to make huge offers in 2016 when the salary cap might rocket from $67 million to $91 million.

So, overpaying in 2015 when they have bullets to fire that others don't makes complete sense. The caveat is naturally that you're much better off if whomever you choose proves worthy of investment.

"We have the ability to recruit and sign at least one max player this summer," Kupchak said.

Gone are the days of signing filler on short-term contracts and hoping someone such as Chris Kaman or Jordan Hill achieves consistency—otherwise known as the Wesley Johnson era in Lakers history—with long-shot courtships of LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony not panning out.


Wonder if we will try to court Marc and Aldridge.
Maybe we'll go for Love immediately. It'll be interesting to see who we set as a priority first.


I am sure they will contact the agents of all 3.


As excited as I am for a top 5 pick...
Signing a top tier FA to a multi-year contract (before the salary cap increase in 2016) would be even sweeter.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:44 pm    Post subject:

5 years 150m to Rondo, 5 years 150m to Love, call it an offseason.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Article: Lakers are Ready to Spend even if they have to Overpay

kikanga wrote:
Iron Mamba wrote:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon

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The Lakers will spend this summer. They hope they can spend on a new superstar such as Kevin Love. But perhaps it has to be an excellent player without particular cachet such as Greg Monroe. If the market doesn't go their way and they have to settle for two good players, that's not ideal, but so be it.

In any case, it's time to offer the kind of contract commitments that push deep into the future and draw legit players, because this is the last chance the Lakers have to capitalize on the salary-cap space they have hoarded the last few years.

The Lakers will have even more spending power in 2016 than the competition when Kobe Bryant's league-high salary comes off their books. Despite Bryant's not committing to retirement after next season, Kupchak said: "I think that's all he's planning on."

Bryant's retirement has been part of the Lakers' planning all along.

The Lakers' losing the once-heralded crew of Howard, Gasol, Steve Nash and eventually Bryant all for nothing—while still paying the price in future draft picks, makes it obvious that the best way to recover is to bring in talent for nothing via free agency.

The Lakers have been limited in their ability to gamble on anything less than top-shelf talent because of their pledge to preserve that cap space for when a superstar is ready to come aboard.

Now, though, there's nothing really stopping the Lakers from extending financial commitments into the future, knowing they'll still be able to make huge offers in 2016 when the salary cap might rocket from $67 million to $91 million.

So, overpaying in 2015 when they have bullets to fire that others don't makes complete sense. The caveat is naturally that you're much better off if whomever you choose proves worthy of investment.

"We have the ability to recruit and sign at least one max player this summer," Kupchak said.

Gone are the days of signing filler on short-term contracts and hoping someone such as Chris Kaman or Jordan Hill achieves consistency—otherwise known as the Wesley Johnson era in Lakers history—with long-shot courtships of LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony not panning out.


Wonder if we will try to court Marc and Aldridge.
Maybe we'll go for Love immediately. It'll be interesting to see who we set as a priority first.
That would be great. I could see a suprise like that happening. Randle would fit in nicely with Gasol and if we are able to get Aldridge, Randle would then definately be expendable. If we end up moving Randle, I think it would likely be for a small forward. I wonder who we would be able to get for him.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:48 pm    Post subject: Re: It's Spending Time

Megaton wrote:
dabask11 wrote:
22 wrote:
KobeRe-Loaded wrote:
Another Kevin Ding article. At least Kupchak gets it.

"You really have to change the way you think about valuing players," Kupchak said. "A player today who is a $5 million player may be a $9 million player just a year from now. And that could be hard for a lot of people to wrap their arms around."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2434145-after-saving-resources-and-gathering-losses-lakers-need-to-spend-big-and-soon


Preparing the fandom before offering a $15.5M contract to Khris Middleton


More like 20 M to Kevin Love


20 M from the Knicks is more like it.


Can't have 20 M when you've spent it already on Monroe


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