Watching Wiggins this season I wasn't really impressed. Everyone and including me thought he had the potential defensively to be outstanding and a lock down guy and eventually his offense would come around. However this year he was pretty awful defensively. Offensively he has no jump shot.
I still think he has a high, high ceiling and higher than Clarkson's, but I don't think there's any question Clarkson was the more impressive rookie.
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There are two sides of the floor, however. Wiggins is already a very good defender. Clarkson isn't a bad defender, per se, but Wiggins is definitely ahead of him.
Offensively though, I agree that Clarkson was as good or better than Wiggins. Those stats Mike put up are for the whole season... if you compare the two as starters, Clarkson is even better. It's one of the reasons Clarkson's PER is that much better than Wiggins.
I think Wiggins wins the ROY more on what he will be, not what he is now. Clarkson, Payton and Mirotic are just as worthy as Wiggins IMO. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
Wiggins is good no doubt, but he won't dominate since he's mainly a post player with no handles. He might be a better overall player than Melo (close on offense, and better on defense).
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:26 pm Post subject:
Thing I noticed about Clarkson is that he takes 80% of his shots in zones where he is average to above average vs the league (and there are a lot of them), and even where he is average (around the rim), average is still very high efficiency.
He's alredy a plus shooter from 3 up top, plus from the elbow areas down on pullups, and average at the rim area. That's a pick and roll nightmare who will only get better.
Thing I noticed about Clarkson is that he takes 80% of his shots in zones where he is average to above average vs the league (and there are a lot of them), and even where he is average (around the rim), average is still very high efficiency.
He's alredy a plus shooter from 3 up top, plus from the elbow areas down on pullups, and average at the rim area. That's a pick and roll nightmare who will only get better.
Is he really an average finisher? Seems crafty to me.. I thought that was one of his strengths, at least looking from last year's summer league.
Thing I noticed about Clarkson is that he takes 80% of his shots in zones where he is average to above average vs the league (and there are a lot of them), and even where he is average (around the rim), average is still very high efficiency.
He's alredy a plus shooter from 3 up top, plus from the elbow areas down on pullups, and average at the rim area. That's a pick and roll nightmare who will only get better.
And wait until he has a worthy big to work with on the P&R! Imagine him and DeAndre Jordan -- drool. I know it's a long shot, but between how DJ compliments Randle and how he would work with Clarkson, he's at the top of my FA wish list.
Clarkson has a better feel to the game offensively. Wiggins still can't consistently create his own shot. He's a better defender and dunker, but Clarkson isn't bad defensively. I think Clarkson has been better overall this year and has had more impact on games. Most of Minny games have been blowouts. Clarkson has kept this Lakers team competitive against the best teams.
Thing I noticed about Clarkson is that he takes 80% of his shots in zones where he is average to above average vs the league (and there are a lot of them), and even where he is average (around the rim), average is still very high efficiency.
He's alredy a plus shooter from 3 up top, plus from the elbow areas down on pullups, and average at the rim area. That's a pick and roll nightmare who will only get better.
And wait until he has a worthy big to work with on the P&R! Imagine him and DeAndre Jordan -- drool. I know it's a long shot, but between how DJ compliments Randle and how he would work with Clarkson, he's at the top of my FA wish list.
Thing I noticed about Clarkson is that he takes 80% of his shots in zones where he is average to above average vs the league (and there are a lot of them), and even where he is average (around the rim), average is still very high efficiency.
He's alredy a plus shooter from 3 up top, plus from the elbow areas down on pullups, and average at the rim area. That's a pick and roll nightmare who will only get better.
And wait until he has a worthy big to work with on the P&R! Imagine him and DeAndre Jordan -- drool. I know it's a long shot, but between how DJ compliments Randle and how he would work with Clarkson, he's at the top of my FA wish list.
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:45 pm Post subject:
misterrunon wrote:
24 wrote:
Thing I noticed about Clarkson is that he takes 80% of his shots in zones where he is average to above average vs the league (and there are a lot of them), and even where he is average (around the rim), average is still very high efficiency.
He's alredy a plus shooter from 3 up top, plus from the elbow areas down on pullups, and average at the rim area. That's a pick and roll nightmare who will only get better.
Is he really an average finisher? Seems crafty to me.. I thought that was one of his strengths, at least looking from last year's summer league.
By average, I mean his FG% in the lane is around the league average (around 55%). He's not at the elite level finishing (over 60%) of some of the great penetrating guards.
Clarkson has a better feel to the game offensively. Wiggins still can't consistently create his own shot. He's a better defender and dunker, but Clarkson isn't bad defensively. I think Clarkson has been better overall this year and has had more impact on games. Most of Minny games have been blowouts. Clarkson has kept this Lakers team competitive against the best teams.
Isn't bad defensively? What the hell were you watching this season. Clarkson had trouble guarding his own shadow. He is ranked 80/84 in DRPM for point guards.
Clarkson has a better feel to the game offensively. Wiggins still can't consistently create his own shot. He's a better defender and dunker, but Clarkson isn't bad defensively. I think Clarkson has been better overall this year and has had more impact on games. Most of Minny games have been blowouts. Clarkson has kept this Lakers team competitive against the best teams.
Isn't bad defensively? What the hell were you watching this season. Clarkson had trouble guarding his own shadow. He is ranked 80/84 in DRPM for point guards.
Every Laker is ranked low on defensive rating.. because the individual is ranked based on the team's performance. I'm not saying that he's a good defender though.
E.G.: Wiggins is rated 69th best defender at the small forward position.. even though people say he's good. Why? Because Minnesota sucks at defense. JC is ranked at 80th among PGs, btw.
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Clarkson has a better feel to the game offensively. Wiggins still can't consistently create his own shot. He's a better defender and dunker, but Clarkson isn't bad defensively. I think Clarkson has been better overall this year and has had more impact on games. Most of Minny games have been blowouts. Clarkson has kept this Lakers team competitive against the best teams.
Isn't bad defensively? What the hell were you watching this season. Clarkson had trouble guarding his own shadow. He is ranked 80/84 in DRPM for point guards.
You realize how misleading that stat is right?
The whole team is god awful defensively. And defensive system in place is dreadful. No player looks good defensively here.
Clarkson has a better feel to the game offensively. Wiggins still can't consistently create his own shot. He's a better defender and dunker, but Clarkson isn't bad defensively. I think Clarkson has been better overall this year and has had more impact on games. Most of Minny games have been blowouts. Clarkson has kept this Lakers team competitive against the best teams.
Isn't bad defensively? What the hell were you watching this season. Clarkson had trouble guarding his own shadow. He is ranked 80/84 in DRPM for point guards.
You realize how misleading that stat is right?
The whole team is god awful defensively. And defensive system in place is dreadful. No player looks good defensively here.
You realize you have over 2000 posts in only two months right?
Clarkson has a better feel to the game offensively. Wiggins still can't consistently create his own shot. He's a better defender and dunker, but Clarkson isn't bad defensively. I think Clarkson has been better overall this year and has had more impact on games. Most of Minny games have been blowouts. Clarkson has kept this Lakers team competitive against the best teams.
Isn't bad defensively? What the hell were you watching this season. Clarkson had trouble guarding his own shadow. He is ranked 80/84 in DRPM for point guards.
You realize how misleading that stat is right?
The whole team is god awful defensively. And defensive system in place is dreadful. No player looks good defensively here.
You realize you have over 2000 posts in only two months right?
Go outside.
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Clarkson has a better feel to the game offensively. Wiggins still can't consistently create his own shot. He's a better defender and dunker, but Clarkson isn't bad defensively. I think Clarkson has been better overall this year and has had more impact on games. Most of Minny games have been blowouts. Clarkson has kept this Lakers team competitive against the best teams.
Isn't bad defensively? What the hell were you watching this season. Clarkson had trouble guarding his own shadow. He is ranked 80/84 in DRPM for point guards.
You realize how misleading that stat is right?
The whole team is god awful defensively. And defensive system in place is dreadful. No player looks good defensively here.
You realize you have over 2000 posts in only two months right?
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