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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:46 pm    Post subject: In reality, how long before we can contend for a playoff spot?

I know keeping the pick this year will be essential and the pending free agency will determine how far we go in the near future. But, if all goes well on both regards.. how soon can we make the playoffs in the loaded west?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:48 pm    Post subject:

If the team follows my checklist, and then signs Durant the season after...

Two years.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:50 pm    Post subject:

With a good draft and offseason, I believe we can be there this coming year.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:50 pm    Post subject:

I would love the team to make it next season. You never know. But realistically they should have a really good playoff ready roster for the 2016-17 season.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:51 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
If the team follows my checklist, and then signs Durant the season after...

Two years.


Cory Joseph and Danny Green are real possibilities for the Lakers, I would put Kobe at the 3 and Green at the 2 next season with Joseph backing Clarkson.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:52 pm    Post subject:

Megaton wrote:
If the team follows my checklist, and then signs Durant the season after...

Two years.


We don't need that much to make the playoffs next season.

New Orleans made it and was only eight games above .500.

With a healthy Kobe, Randle having a good rookie year, and Clarkson continuing to grow and improve plus a lottery pick we're easily at least 15 games better.

Add in one good free agent like Middelton, Green, or Jordan and we're a playoff team.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:56 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:59 pm    Post subject:

Lakers2015 wrote:
Megaton wrote:
If the team follows my checklist, and then signs Durant the season after...

Two years.


We don't need that much to make the playoffs next season.

New Orleans made it and was only eight games above .500.

With a healthy Kobe, Randle having a good rookie year, and Clarkson continuing to grow and improve plus a lottery pick we're easily at least 15 games better.

Add in one good free agent like Middelton, Green, or Jordan and we're a playoff team.


We would have to win about 30 to 35 more games next season, I just don't see it unless the team gets a super hot start.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:00 pm    Post subject:

Lakers2015 wrote:
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If the team follows my checklist, and then signs Durant the season after...

Two years.


We don't need that much to make the playoffs next season.

New Orleans made it and was only eight games above .500.

With a healthy Kobe, Randle having a good rookie year, and Clarkson continuing to grow and improve plus a lottery pick we're easily at least 15 games better.

Add in one good free agent like Middelton, Green, or Jordan and we're a playoff team.


The question was more about realistic. And hoping for a healthy Kobe for the whole season is more wishful thinking than realistic.

Clarkson improving, Randle having a good rookie year, yes at great stuff. But even then, we would probably have to win 47/48 games just to make the 8th seed. Pelicans just barely got in winning 45 this year true but next season is gonna be tougher IMO.

It's possible but realistically, I think 2017 is THE YEAR we make that splash.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:32 pm    Post subject:

How can you think we will not make the playoffs next year?

We have kobe and randle coming back, clarkson developing, a top 5 draft pick, and hopefully one decent free agent : DJ, lamarcus Aldridge, gasol, love.

I think we will be 8th seed next year, and even so, we can be a dangerous 8th seed like okc was in 2009. We have the same young guns okc did in2009 in clarkson, randle, and our top 5.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Realistically with the right moves, in 2 seasons.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
2017


My thought as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:55 pm    Post subject:

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How can you think we will not make the playoffs next year?

We have kobe and randle coming back, clarkson developing, a top 5 draft pick, and hopefully one decent free agent : DJ, lamarcus Aldridge, gasol, love.

I think we will be 8th seed next year, and even so, we can be a dangerous 8th seed like okc was in 2009. We have the same young guns okc did in2009 in clarkson, randle, and our top 5.


Even with those moves, the West is still loaded, and our young guns will still be developing. You damn near have to win 50 games to be an 8th seed.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:01 pm    Post subject:

oldschool32 wrote:
and our young guns will still be developing.


I think someone bought up the sentiment that the Lakers will probably package some of the young players in a bigger trade... that is most likely the plan...

as far as the Lakers making the playoffs.... I think it depends if the Lakers pull off a big trade during the summer and how much there willing to spend in FA.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:26 pm    Post subject:

Maybe 2016 but likely 2017.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:37 pm    Post subject:

2-3 years me thinks unless we get lucky
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:06 pm    Post subject:

Season after next. Clarkson, Randle, top 5 pick from this year, lottery pick from next year, and max free agent.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:09 pm    Post subject:

Think the 2017 summer will be the big one. If we can land Durant in 2016 then I'll take it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:13 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Season after next. Clarkson, Randle, top 5 pick from this year, lottery pick from next year, and max free agent.
we really need a frozen envelop for that to happen, since next year's pick is only top 3 protected. If things break right, I think we can hover around .500 next season, with the young players developing and some FA signing in 2017, we should be back in the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:25 pm    Post subject:

2016- maybe, land a solid top 5 pick, a rotation player with houston pick, land a high impact fa, kobe heatlhy, internal development

2017- more likely, everyone older and better, maybe durant

2018- likely we have al hortford, jennings or westbrook at this point

range: 2016-2018
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:36 pm    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
Season after next. Clarkson, Randle, top 5 pick from this year, lottery pick from next year, and max free agent.
we really need a frozen envelop for that to happen, since next year's pick is only top 3 protected. If things break right, I think we can hover around .500 next season, with the young players developing and some FA signing in 2017, we should be back in the playoffs.


(bleep). So really, we're losing a lottery pick no matter what, even if we don't get unlucky this year.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:43 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
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Season after next. Clarkson, Randle, top 5 pick from this year, lottery pick from next year, and max free agent.
we really need a frozen envelop for that to happen, since next year's pick is only top 3 protected. If things break right, I think we can hover around .500 next season, with the young players developing and some FA signing in 2017, we should be back in the playoffs.


(bleep). So really, we're losing a lottery pick no matter what, even if we don't get unlucky this year.


We only lose the lottery pick next year IF we keep the lottery pick THIS year.

Next year's pick is top 3 protected if we keep the pick this year. If the Lakers don't make the playoffs next season, than we can see if the lottery balls are in our favor again.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:30 pm    Post subject:

Definitely not next year. Maybe the year after. Most likely after that.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:35 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
DocK36 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Season after next. Clarkson, Randle, top 5 pick from this year, lottery pick from next year, and max free agent.
we really need a frozen envelop for that to happen, since next year's pick is only top 3 protected. If things break right, I think we can hover around .500 next season, with the young players developing and some FA signing in 2017, we should be back in the playoffs.


(bleep). So really, we're losing a lottery pick no matter what, even if we don't get unlucky this year.


It is too early to definitely say that it will be a Lottery Pick that gets sent to Philly (or some other debt collector).

However, the Lakers will eventually need to fulfill that obligation because it contains no conditional provision so that it would be extinguished by the passage of time.

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L.A. Lakers' 1st round pick to Philadelphia (via Phoenix) protected for selections 1-5 in 2015, 1-3 in 2016 and 1-3 in 2017 and unprotected in 2018 [L.A. Lakers-Phoenix, 7/11/2012; Milwaukee-Philadelphia-Phoenix, 2/19/2015]
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:45 pm    Post subject:

2017.

Contending for a playoff spot isn't a very ambitious goal though. Phoenix contended for a playoff spot this year.
And the truth is, if they got in, they'd be worse off.
I would rather be anywhere than first round playoff purgatory. That (bleep) might fly elsewhere, but not in Lakerland.
I get that 90%+ of championship teams had chunks of their roster lose in the playoffs. It's the step between where we are now and a chip.
But I hope that stage of the climb back to championship basketball is short-lived
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