Report: Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan had falling out
The Clippers need to re-sign DeAndre Jordan.
If they don’t, they’ll likely have only the mid-level exception to find a replacement. For perspective, that netted them Spencer Hawes last season.
Jordan plans to explore the market, including the Mavericks.
That puts pressure on the Clippers. They can offer Jordan more money and, in most cases, a better team.
Potentially not helping? Chris Paul.
Bill Reiter of Fox Sports:
Paul better evaluate whether this is a grudge worth holding – because Jordan has the power here. If he leaves, the Clippers are stuck.
It’d be a shame to waste a season in Paul’s and Blake Griffin‘s prime. The Clippers would still probably make the playoffs next season, but they’d be hard-pressed to contend for a title without Jordan. (And make no mistake: Despite their Game 7 loss yesterday, they were among the teams legitimately competing for the 2015 championship.)
Then, when the salary cap jumps in 2016, they could seriously look into upgrading the roster around Paul and Griffin. Playing with those stars will appeal to free agents, but many teams will have flexibility. It’s far from guaranteed the Clippers come out ahead of their competition – and that’d be following a near-certain step back next season.
Winning isn’t everything, but Paul should be going to every length he finds reasonable to make Jordan feel comfortable with him and the Clippers.
Report: Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan had falling out
The Clippers need to re-sign DeAndre Jordan.
If they don’t, they’ll likely have only the mid-level exception to find a replacement. For perspective, that netted them Spencer Hawes last season.
Jordan plans to explore the market, including the Mavericks.
That puts pressure on the Clippers. They can offer Jordan more money and, in most cases, a better team.
Potentially not helping? Chris Paul.
Bill Reiter of Fox Sports:
Paul better evaluate whether this is a grudge worth holding – because Jordan has the power here. If he leaves, the Clippers are stuck.
It’d be a shame to waste a season in Paul’s and Blake Griffin‘s prime. The Clippers would still probably make the playoffs next season, but they’d be hard-pressed to contend for a title without Jordan. (And make no mistake: Despite their Game 7 loss yesterday, they were among the teams legitimately competing for the 2015 championship.)
Then, when the salary cap jumps in 2016, they could seriously look into upgrading the roster around Paul and Griffin. Playing with those stars will appeal to free agents, but many teams will have flexibility. It’s far from guaranteed the Clippers come out ahead of their competition – and that’d be following a near-certain step back next season.
Winning isn’t everything, but Paul should be going to every length he finds reasonable to make Jordan feel comfortable with him and the Clippers.
No they weren't. The only mistake was in thinking that they were.
Report: Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan had falling out
The Clippers need to re-sign DeAndre Jordan.
If they don’t, they’ll likely have only the mid-level exception to find a replacement. For perspective, that netted them Spencer Hawes last season.
Jordan plans to explore the market, including the Mavericks.
That puts pressure on the Clippers. They can offer Jordan more money and, in most cases, a better team.
Potentially not helping? Chris Paul.
Bill Reiter of Fox Sports:
Paul better evaluate whether this is a grudge worth holding – because Jordan has the power here. If he leaves, the Clippers are stuck.
It’d be a shame to waste a season in Paul’s and Blake Griffin‘s prime. The Clippers would still probably make the playoffs next season, but they’d be hard-pressed to contend for a title without Jordan. (And make no mistake: Despite their Game 7 loss yesterday, they were among the teams legitimately competing for the 2015 championship.)
Then, when the salary cap jumps in 2016, they could seriously look into upgrading the roster around Paul and Griffin. Playing with those stars will appeal to free agents, but many teams will have flexibility. It’s far from guaranteed the Clippers come out ahead of their competition – and that’d be following a near-certain step back next season.
Winning isn’t everything, but Paul should be going to every length he finds reasonable to make Jordan feel comfortable with him and the Clippers.
Sure, if they lose Jordan they could still find a free agent center in 2016, but then Chris Paul will be turning 32 during the ensuing season.
Report: Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan had falling out
The Clippers need to re-sign DeAndre Jordan.
If they don’t, they’ll likely have only the mid-level exception to find a replacement. For perspective, that netted them Spencer Hawes last season.
Jordan plans to explore the market, including the Mavericks.
That puts pressure on the Clippers. They can offer Jordan more money and, in most cases, a better team.
Potentially not helping? Chris Paul.
Bill Reiter of Fox Sports:
Paul better evaluate whether this is a grudge worth holding – because Jordan has the power here. If he leaves, the Clippers are stuck.
It’d be a shame to waste a season in Paul’s and Blake Griffin‘s prime. The Clippers would still probably make the playoffs next season, but they’d be hard-pressed to contend for a title without Jordan. (And make no mistake: Despite their Game 7 loss yesterday, they were among the teams legitimately competing for the 2015 championship.)
Then, when the salary cap jumps in 2016, they could seriously look into upgrading the roster around Paul and Griffin. Playing with those stars will appeal to free agents, but many teams will have flexibility. It’s far from guaranteed the Clippers come out ahead of their competition – and that’d be following a near-certain step back next season.
Winning isn’t everything, but Paul should be going to every length he finds reasonable to make Jordan feel comfortable with him and the Clippers.
Sure, if they lose Jordan they could still find a free agent center in 2016, but then Chris Paul will be turning 32 during the ensuing season.
CP3 isn't good enough to carry. So you think Durant would pick the Clippers over the Lakers, Spurs, or Wizards?
that's so sad, I've always thought they'd end up being married. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it."
Report: Chris Paul and DeAndre Jordan had falling out
The Clippers need to re-sign DeAndre Jordan.
If they don’t, they’ll likely have only the mid-level exception to find a replacement. For perspective, that netted them Spencer Hawes last season.
Jordan plans to explore the market, including the Mavericks.
That puts pressure on the Clippers. They can offer Jordan more money and, in most cases, a better team.
Potentially not helping? Chris Paul.
Bill Reiter of Fox Sports:
Paul better evaluate whether this is a grudge worth holding – because Jordan has the power here. If he leaves, the Clippers are stuck.
It’d be a shame to waste a season in Paul’s and Blake Griffin‘s prime. The Clippers would still probably make the playoffs next season, but they’d be hard-pressed to contend for a title without Jordan. (And make no mistake: Despite their Game 7 loss yesterday, they were among the teams legitimately competing for the 2015 championship.)
Then, when the salary cap jumps in 2016, they could seriously look into upgrading the roster around Paul and Griffin. Playing with those stars will appeal to free agents, but many teams will have flexibility. It’s far from guaranteed the Clippers come out ahead of their competition – and that’d be following a near-certain step back next season.
Winning isn’t everything, but Paul should be going to every length he finds reasonable to make Jordan feel comfortable with him and the Clippers.
Sure, if they lose Jordan they could still find a free agent center in 2016, but then Chris Paul will be turning 32 during the ensuing season.
CP3 isn't good enough to carry. So you think Durant would pick the Clippers over the Lakers, Spurs, or Wizards?
I'm not convinced that Durant is relevant anymore. That foot injury is serious.
I realize that we were screwed by Stern, but I refuse to buy into the tale that Chris Paul was the magic bullet or building block. For starters, I think the chemistry between him and Kobe would have been chaotic. Second, he's the anti-Magic, he simply cannot elevate his or his teammates' game to prevail in a tight series. I guess that is a quality you lump under the category of intangibles and he's had too many opportunities (and now advantages) to just owe it to bad luck.
I realize that we were screwed by Stern, but I refuse to buy into the tale that Chris Paul was the magic bullet or building block. For starters, I think the chemistry between him and Kobe would have been chaotic. Second, he's the anti-Magic, he simply cannot elevate his or his teammates' game to prevail in a tight series. I guess that is a quality you lump under the category of intangibles and he's had too many opportunities (and now advantages) to just owe it to bad luck.
Agreed. Both players need to have the ball in their hands in order to be effective, I'm not sure who would want to give up the rock, but one of them would need to.
There's something to the fact that he is tied for 3rd all-time, in playoff games without a conference finals berth.
If he loses in the second round again next year (or loses the first round without getting swept), he will stand alone as the player having played the most playoff games without a CF berth in NBA history.
It looked like the shot clock went off before he had the ball -- the backboard lit up for a sec and then the clock stuck at .07 -- odd.
Yes. It's probably a good thing that he didn't shoot. That would have been a debacle. How would the referees have sorted that one out? He could have tipped it toward the basket when he first touched the ball, but after that the clock should have expired.
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 8:03 am Post subject:
angrypuppy wrote:
I realize that we were screwed by Stern, but I refuse to buy into the tale that Chris Paul was the magic bullet or building block. For starters, I think the chemistry between him and Kobe would have been chaotic. Second, he's the anti-Magic, he simply cannot elevate his or his teammates' game to prevail in a tight series. I guess that is a quality you lump under the category of intangibles and he's had too many opportunities (and now advantages) to just owe it to bad luck.
I agree, I didn't think that Kobe and Paul could exist together. As for the Clippers, if it comes down to it, the smart move would be to trade Chris Paul. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 8:53 am Post subject:
I don't see the Clips moving forward with this core (Griffin, CP3, Jordan) and being able to win a championship. The Clips' playoff elimination felt (to me) as the closing of the window of opportunity for that core group's chance to win a title. .
The move necessary to keep Jordan (a max contract) would pose a crippling handicap to the club in terms of its ability to actually begin to address the factors that prevented them from reaching championship form in the 2015 post-season:
- a bench lacking depth comparable to the teams which win both conference final and NBA Finals series. An aging Jamal Crawford was the best element, but even he is likely to be diminishing beyond age 35.
- deficient play of the big wing starter (Matt Barnes), who's continually lacked competitive ability to counter opposing wings of Trevor Ariza's level of ability. Upgrade at this position seems the #2 priority, even if they keep DJ and improve the bench first, which alone represent terrible odds against.
Finding guys of improved quality for the vet minimum seems to require magic, if DeAndre Jordan is re-signed.
there's only 1 situation you keep jordan if they really don't get along.. that one single option is if they had just won a ring.
paul is their core, griffen is the superstar that will follow paul..
it doesn't matter if you're best buddies with blake.. sometimes it wouldn't even matter if you're best friends with paul, let alone have paul be against you (if rumor is true).
in saying that.. paul is an idiot if he's going to motivate moving jordan because of that mistake.. we've seen a few bone headed plays before on the lakers also. (and still won rings). _________________ KOBE!!!
Can't you just see Kobe wearing the Vader Helmet in a dimmed lit Laker Locker room, calling out to Deandre... Walk across the hall... To the dark side. You will walk with Legends... (not your teammates, well just one) Who knows some legendary stuff might might rub off on you. _________________ "If you see me in a fight with a bear, prey for the bear". Ive always loved that quote. Thats "mamba mentality" we don't quit, we don't cower, we don't run. We endure and conquer.
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