Why do people say "Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers?"
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> LA Lakers Lounge Reply to topic
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
King Nupe
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 22 Mar 2014
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:31 am    Post subject: Why do people say "Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers?"

Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ringfinger
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 08 Oct 2013
Posts: 29418

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:44 am    Post subject:

I think it's more an attempt to explain why players don't go out of their way to come here.

In the Shaq era, some did. And by going out of their way I mean, take a pay cut or come here specifically to play with Kobe.

I don't think players specifically don't want to come here (I think that's overblown), I think it's more that they didn't specifically want to come here. If that makes sense.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Rivershow
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 09 Dec 2011
Posts: 6731

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:50 am    Post subject:

Mainly media driven because some of these people have bias against Kobe or want to use lazy narratives. If we were a legit championship team the last couple of years, this narrative wouldn't even exist. But now that Kobe's old often injured and the lakers suck, people want to take whatever pot shots they can.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
JoJo Dancer
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 25 Dec 2011
Posts: 7474

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:55 am    Post subject:

Henry Abbott
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
999
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 20265

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers

King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?


ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Lakers95
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 19 Dec 2011
Posts: 20880
Location: Southern California

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:33 am    Post subject:

Rivershow wrote:
Mainly media driven because some of these people have bias against Kobe or want to use lazy narratives. If we were a legit championship team the last couple of years, this narrative wouldn't even exist. But now that Kobe's old often injured and the lakers suck, people want to take whatever pot shots they can.


This. The vultures over at ESPN are always silent when they can't skew the narrative to fit their agenda.

Just because Dwight made a huge scene over leaving doesn't mean that nobody wants to play here. The situation that clown caused is an anomaly.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
panamaniac
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 28 May 2011
Posts: 11238
Location: PTY

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:34 am    Post subject:

JoJo Dancer wrote:
Henry Abbott


Henry Abbott probably watches tape of Kobe ripping up his Jailblazers as inspiration for every Kobe piece.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Four Decade Bandwagon
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 18 Jul 2014
Posts: 8127

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers

LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?


ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing


Why current Kobe? Could a 36year old Lebron do it? We may never find out.

What Lebron did was spectacular. He is a HoF player. But the better question is could a 29 year old dominant Kobe lead the the Cavs in this playoff run.

IMO yes. In a different way but yes.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
24KaratGold
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 17350

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers

LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?


ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing


LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.
_________________
Double rings > Double rainbow
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
CandyCanes
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 24 Dec 2007
Posts: 35750
Location: Santa Clarita, CA (Hell) ->>>>>Ithaca, NY -≥≥≥≥≥Berkeley, CA

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:43 am    Post subject:

Nice clickbait title.
_________________
Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Reply with quote
The Shadow King
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 02 Apr 2011
Posts: 4363
Location: Dallas, Texas

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:47 am    Post subject:

Like Jeanie said, "Only losers wouldn't want to play with Kobe aND for the Lakers."
_________________
Lakers, today. Lakers, tomorrow. Lakers, forever.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger Reply with quote
pjiddy
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 29017

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:21 pm    Post subject:

I think reality and history are the sources of this notion.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
tom
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 24 Jun 2009
Posts: 7251

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:24 pm    Post subject:

It's not that players think Kobe stinks or some thing. It just they don't want to be on a team were no offense to my fellow Kobe fans. A over the hill Hall of Famer still jacking up 20-30 shots a game.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Batguano
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 19 Mar 2015
Posts: 2253

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:43 pm    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
I think reality and history are the sources of this notion.


Payton, Malone, Artest, Fisher, Matt Barnes proved otherwise.

Rondo would play with Kobe.

Kevin Durant disagrees with you.

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2014/12/16/kevin-durant-kobe-bryant-lakers/20506671/][/url]

Shaq, Gasol, Odom didn't seem to have any problem with going to multiple Finals and winning rings.

But I guess little "facts" like the Lakers being capped out for most of Kobe's Lakers tenure (thus them not really being free agent players until just recently) have nothing to do with "free agents not coming to play with Kobe". Or the fact that rules are made to encourage players to resign with their original teams.

Hey, no star signed with Houston this last offseason so I guess that "proves" no one wants to play with Harden/Howard.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
PhoenixForce
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 07 Oct 2014
Posts: 1780

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:51 pm    Post subject:

Batguano wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
I think reality and history are the sources of this notion.


Payton, Malone, Artest, Fisher, Matt Barnes proved otherwise.

Rondo would play with Kobe.

Kevin Durant disagrees with you.

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2014/12/16/kevin-durant-kobe-bryant-lakers/20506671/][/url]

Shaq, Gasol, Odom didn't seem to have any problem with going to multiple Finals and winning rings.

But I guess little "facts" like the Lakers being capped out for most of Kobe's Lakers tenure (thus them not really being free agent players until just recently) have nothing to do with "free agents not coming to play with Kobe". Or the fact that rules are made to encourage players to resign with their original teams.

Hey, no star signed with Houston this last offseason so I guess that "proves" no one wants to play with Harden/Howard.


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ReaListik
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Posts: 6542

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:17 pm    Post subject:

PhoenixForce wrote:
Batguano wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
I think reality and history are the sources of this notion.


Payton, Malone, Artest, Fisher, Matt Barnes proved otherwise.

Rondo would play with Kobe.

Kevin Durant disagrees with you.

[url=http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2014/12/16/kevin-durant-kobe-bryant-lakers/20506671/][/url]

Shaq, Gasol, Odom didn't seem to have any problem with going to multiple Finals and winning rings.

But I guess little "facts" like the Lakers being capped out for most of Kobe's Lakers tenure (thus them not really being free agent players until just recently) have nothing to do with "free agents not coming to play with Kobe". Or the fact that rules are made to encourage players to resign with their original teams.

Hey, no star signed with Houston this last offseason so I guess that "proves" no one wants to play with Harden/Howard.




End thread right there.
_________________
"We are the goodest." - Shaq ESPN interview
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
999
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 19 Oct 2006
Posts: 20265

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers

24KaratGold wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?


ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing


LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.


do you think prime Lebron could have beat the 06 suns with that Laker squad and phil Jackson?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Megaton
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 18 Feb 2015
Posts: 25624

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers

LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
24KaratGold wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?


ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing


LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.


do you think prime Lebron could have beat the 06 suns with that Laker squad and phil Jackson?


Suns would win in 4 or 5 games.
_________________
Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
RetroNikes
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 06 Jun 2005
Posts: 6376

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:25 pm    Post subject:

(1) Because Shaq's departure
(2) Haven't signed an all-star


Rapper Nelly made this statement on NBA first take, and it's obvious he doesn't understand the NBA salary cap.

If the Lakers sign an all-star it's going to be because Kobe is old and that he's only his way out.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
exempt
Starting Rotation
Starting Rotation


Joined: 19 May 2015
Posts: 593

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers

LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
24KaratGold wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?


ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing


LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.


do you think prime Lebron could have beat the 06 suns with that Laker squad and phil Jackson?


NO. Nash and Barbosa torched our Pgs
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
venturalakersfan
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 14 Apr 2001
Posts: 144432
Location: The Gold Coast

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:44 pm    Post subject:

It doesn't matter, Kobe won't be here long.
_________________
RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
SGV-Laker fan
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 23 May 2013
Posts: 8842

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:45 pm    Post subject:

is this thread serious? it's 4 months too late
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Peoples Hernandez
Star Player
Star Player


Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Posts: 3727

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 5:04 pm    Post subject:

JoJo Dancer wrote:
Henry Abbott


'Nuff said
_________________
Whenever the Lakers benefit all of a sudden rules need to be changed and trades need to be blocked.

"It's all entertainment" -Rasheed Wallace
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
ringfinger
Retired Number
Retired Number


Joined: 08 Oct 2013
Posts: 29418

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 5:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers

Megaton wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
24KaratGold wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?


ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing


LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.


do you think prime Lebron could have beat the 06 suns with that Laker squad and phil Jackson?


Suns would win in 4 or 5 games.


2 games. Lebron is that bad.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
moonriver24
Franchise Player
Franchise Player


Joined: 21 Oct 2007
Posts: 15265

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 5:06 pm    Post subject:

I know, I know.
The Cowards of NBA dont wanna play with Kobe.
_________________
Kobe's Top 5 Dunks, 81 points, MJ last gm @Staples
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Reply with quote
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic    LakersGround.net Forum Index -> LA Lakers Lounge All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 1 of 4
Jump to:  

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum






Graphics by uberzev
© 1995-2018 LakersGround.net. All Rights Reserved. Privacy Policy. Terms of Use.
LakersGround is an unofficial news source serving the fan community since 1995.
We are in no way associated with the Los Angeles Lakers or the National Basketball Association.


Powered by phpBB