Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 10:31 am Post subject: Why do people say "Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers?"
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
I think it's more an attempt to explain why players don't go out of their way to come here.
In the Shaq era, some did. And by going out of their way I mean, take a pay cut or come here specifically to play with Kobe.
I don't think players specifically don't want to come here (I think that's overblown), I think it's more that they didn't specifically want to come here. If that makes sense.
Mainly media driven because some of these people have bias against Kobe or want to use lazy narratives. If we were a legit championship team the last couple of years, this narrative wouldn't even exist. But now that Kobe's old often injured and the lakers suck, people want to take whatever pot shots they can.
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:33 am Post subject:
Rivershow wrote:
Mainly media driven because some of these people have bias against Kobe or want to use lazy narratives. If we were a legit championship team the last couple of years, this narrative wouldn't even exist. But now that Kobe's old often injured and the lakers suck, people want to take whatever pot shots they can.
This. The vultures over at ESPN are always silent when they can't skew the narrative to fit their agenda.
Just because Dwight made a huge scene over leaving doesn't mean that nobody wants to play here. The situation that clown caused is an anomaly.
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing
Why current Kobe? Could a 36year old Lebron do it? We may never find out.
What Lebron did was spectacular. He is a HoF player. But the better question is could a 29 year old dominant Kobe lead the the Cavs in this playoff run.
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 11:38 am Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing
LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time. _________________ Double rings > Double rainbow
Like Jeanie said, "Only losers wouldn't want to play with Kobe aND for the Lakers." _________________ Lakers, today. Lakers, tomorrow. Lakers, forever.
It's not that players think Kobe stinks or some thing. It just they don't want to be on a team were no offense to my fellow Kobe fans. A over the hill Hall of Famer still jacking up 20-30 shots a game.
Shaq, Gasol, Odom didn't seem to have any problem with going to multiple Finals and winning rings.
But I guess little "facts" like the Lakers being capped out for most of Kobe's Lakers tenure (thus them not really being free agent players until just recently) have nothing to do with "free agents not coming to play with Kobe". Or the fact that rules are made to encourage players to resign with their original teams.
Hey, no star signed with Houston this last offseason so I guess that "proves" no one wants to play with Harden/Howard.
Shaq, Gasol, Odom didn't seem to have any problem with going to multiple Finals and winning rings.
But I guess little "facts" like the Lakers being capped out for most of Kobe's Lakers tenure (thus them not really being free agent players until just recently) have nothing to do with "free agents not coming to play with Kobe". Or the fact that rules are made to encourage players to resign with their original teams.
Hey, no star signed with Houston this last offseason so I guess that "proves" no one wants to play with Harden/Howard.
Shaq, Gasol, Odom didn't seem to have any problem with going to multiple Finals and winning rings.
But I guess little "facts" like the Lakers being capped out for most of Kobe's Lakers tenure (thus them not really being free agent players until just recently) have nothing to do with "free agents not coming to play with Kobe". Or the fact that rules are made to encourage players to resign with their original teams.
Hey, no star signed with Houston this last offseason so I guess that "proves" no one wants to play with Harden/Howard.
End thread right there. _________________ "We are the goodest." - Shaq ESPN interview
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers
24KaratGold wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing
LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.
do you think prime Lebron could have beat the 06 suns with that Laker squad and phil Jackson?
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
24KaratGold wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing
LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.
do you think prime Lebron could have beat the 06 suns with that Laker squad and phil Jackson?
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
24KaratGold wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing
LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.
do you think prime Lebron could have beat the 06 suns with that Laker squad and phil Jackson?
Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Nobody wants to play with Kobe/ Lakers
Megaton wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
24KaratGold wrote:
LAKERSCMXCIX wrote:
King Nupe wrote:
Where did this notion come from? What freeagent stated that they didn't want to play with Kobe or come to the lakers. What about the notion that free agents don't want to come to LA. The only freeagents that turned down the Lakers were Lebron who went "home" to another stacked team, and Melo who took the money to stay in NY. Houston didn't get bosh and they had a young squad with 2 stars. Dallas only got Parsons who was terrible this year. The Spurs Never get anybodY. So where is this coming from? Is it media driven to Blame Jim Buss or what?
ill be honest with you... I don't think current Kobe can take those cavs to the finals... I hate to admit this love him or hate him... Lebron will be a top 5 player when its all said and done.. what he did against Atlanta without Kyrie and Love was amazing
LeBron is doing amazing things on the basketball court that leave me in awe. However, why are you comparing a 36-year old Kobe to a 30-year old LeBron? Of course LeBron in his prime is going to win that argument every single time.
do you think prime Lebron could have beat the 06 suns with that Laker squad and phil Jackson?
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