Rewind the clock: would you still trade Marc Gasol for Pau??
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:44 am    Post subject:

An all-star big man for an unknown draft pick at the time? HELL YES!
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:46 am    Post subject:

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KWAME BROWN is gone. Lakers, throw a parade already, this man is a bonafide scrub. He can't play. He has small hands, he can't catch the ball, he has bad feet, he can't really move, even though he's mobile, he doesn't really know what he's doing, doesn't have a post move that he puts to memory and can do two times in a row. He has no game whatsoever, plays no defense, and you're asking me did they give up too much?

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:18 am    Post subject:

Yes and here's why: When we got Pau he was a proven star in the league just needing to be paired with a true SUPERSTAR to get over the top. We paired him with Kobe and look what happened. When you think about it, when we first got Pau, we almost won a championship, but I seriously think that first season we got him, it was just too much for him and it overwhelmed him, so we lost in the finals to the Celtics.

Mark would not have been able to get us over the hump and we would have wasted more of kobe's prime years waiting for Mark. Overall it worked out, when you think about it Mark is in the same position that Pau was in when we traded for him back then. Mark needs a proven Superstar to put him over the edge. I venture as far as to say it won't be Kobe this time around. I think Memphis will bring in someone to balance Marks dominance and put them in a Western Conference Finals.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:42 am    Post subject:

What kind of question is this? Pau was the best big man in the game during those championship runs. Marc Gasol was never at that level. He's a very good and well rounded player, but he didn't really develop into an elite center until 2011. By that time Kobe was already out of his prime. Then what happens with Bynum? I doubt him and Marc could've played together.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:08 am    Post subject:

Pau all day. Got us 2 chips

The real question is whether Lakers would flip Randle for Love
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:06 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
Pau all day. Got us 2 chips

The real question is whether Lakers would flip Randle for Love


Why should we have to when we can just sign him in free agency?
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:08 am    Post subject:

Is this a serious question? God, I hate the offseason and the mindless threads created by boredom.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:10 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Is this a serious question? God, I hate the offseason and the mindless threads created by boredom.


you are creeping on 90K in posts. Oh the ironing.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:14 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Is this a serious question? God, I hate the offseason and the mindless threads created by boredom.


This is better than any thread created by 2.0
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:53 am    Post subject:

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Yes.

Two rings and it got rid of Kwaa-May Brown.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:27 pm    Post subject:

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venturalakersfan wrote:
Is this a serious question? God, I hate the offseason and the mindless threads created by boredom.


This is better than any thread created by 2.0


Good point
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:43 pm    Post subject:

It's a win-win for both the Lakers and the Grizzlies, who knew how Marc would pan out since he won't be the starting C over Bynum.

We would have never won those 2 rings without Pau, so yes I would make the same trade again.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:47 pm    Post subject:

Oliver Reed wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Is this a serious question? God, I hate the offseason and the mindless threads created by boredom.


you are creeping on 90K in posts. Oh the ironing.



17 posts per day....

reminds me of this SP episode

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:51 pm    Post subject:

How could anyone regret that trade? Pau is still arguably better or as good as Marc Gasol now. Pau is and will always be the better player.

I wish we didn't add Marc but no way do I regret nor take the trade back.

Marc only grew to stardom after our chip run anyways.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:55 pm    Post subject:

Hell to the power of yeah!
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:08 pm    Post subject:

Duh. Two rings versus likely none? You make that trade all day everyday.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:26 pm    Post subject:

Classic example of a win win trade.

Lakers got the star big that put us over the top, help take us to 3 finals and win 2 championships.

Griz got a prospect who developed into a star, and the cap flexibility that allowed them to strike on ZBo.

Successful trade for both teams.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:33 pm    Post subject:

If no Marc means no Pau I still trade Marc. Obviously if we could have redone the deal I would have rather sent Bynum/Farmar and kept Marc.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:37 pm    Post subject:

ridiculous question... Pau = 3 finals, 2 championships.
with Marc there's no saying if we win any championships. I would say not as by the time Marc was rounding into a premier player, Kobe was already on the downswing of his career.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 5:41 pm    Post subject:

Oliver Reed wrote:
Lakers replace Marc for Bynum, knowing what we know now. Lakers run would have been much different.


If we're going by what we know now, we trade Bynum when he was at his peak for Curry who was known for having glass ankles in 2012
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:18 pm    Post subject:

You guys realize Pau just had another great season?
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:29 pm    Post subject:

This is a really silly thread.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:41 pm    Post subject:

yes
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 8:42 pm    Post subject:

Prime Pau > 2009 Dwight > Prime Marc

It's no contest. Pau was the best big in the league from 2008-2010. Marc never came close to that level.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:53 pm    Post subject:

This is one of those questions that can't really be answered, because it is based on a faulty premise, namely that we traded Marc in order to acquire Pau.

We traded Kwame's large expiring contract for Pau, because Bynum injured his knees and we needed a starting center to take his place.

At the time, the Grizzlies owners were trying to sell the team, and wanted to reduce the team payroll by trading Pau. Their first choice for the trade was the Bulls, but they believed that their starting lineup was bound for glory and didn't want to trade any of their players.

When Bynum went down, Mitch looked for a replacement, and found that Pau was available, if we were willing to take on his contract.

We also traded our rights to Marc, who was not yet playing for us, and was (I think) still in Spain. We also traded our rights to one or two other low salary players.

But this wasn't a Marc Gasol for Pau Gasol trade per se. It was a Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol trade. And the only reason the Grizzlies were willing to take Kwame was because he was an expiring contract.
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