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srekal2 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:57 am Post subject: Trade Randle, Clarkson for Cousins? |
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Seeing the nature of bigs frequently flopping, along with the potential of Love coming home to the Lakers, would Sacramento take Randle and our two late first rounders for Cousins, or maybe Clarkson with Randle. We can then draft Russell who might be the BPA, and pick up Durant when Kobe retires. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:59 am Post subject: |
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What would do without this? |
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RetroNikes Star Player
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Rather keep those two players and go after a max free agent. |
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Wino Star Player
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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So how about if we move Sacre for potato chips and then wait and package Randle, Clarkson and our first round draft pick to bring him back!!!
_________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain |
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Moses Star Player
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Would the Queens take it? I don't think so _________________ Lakers, Chargers, Dodgers, Arsenal FC.
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 6:01 am Post subject: Re: Trade Randle, Clarkson for Cousins? |
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srekal2 wrote: | Seeing the nature of bigs frequently flopping, along with the potential of Love coming home to the Lakers, would Sacramento take Randle and our two late first rounders for Cousins, or maybe Clarkson with Randle. We can then draft Russell who might be the BPA, and pick up Durant when Kobe retires. |
I'd like to see the two develop, and I'm not sold on Russell being BPA over Okafor/Towns but I see where you're coming from. You had better have some sort of under the table deal (but no Joe Smith paper trail) with Love/LMA. I like a Russell/Love/Cousins core in theory. That's a lot of young talent, enough to sell high on Clarkson but yea Sacto would have to see a lot in Randle to justify the deal. With the 10M gap in salary, you'd have to include Young to afford Love, which is a possible deal breaker when the Kings compare other deals. I think I'd take the end result, but don't have enough faith in Love signing to pull the trigger and losing Okafor is rough. |
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1since71 Star Player
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 8:52 am Post subject: |
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better would be #2 pick,Randle and J.Hill for D.Cousins and the #7 pick.Now you can sign Love,pick a 3 with the 7th pick. |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Trade Randle, Clarkson for Cousins? |
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fansincemagic wrote: | srekal2 wrote: | Seeing the nature of bigs frequently flopping, along with the potential of Love coming home to the Lakers, would Sacramento take Randle and our two late first rounders for Cousins, or maybe Clarkson with Randle. We can then draft Russell who might be the BPA, and pick up Durant when Kobe retires. |
I'd like to see the two develop, and I'm not sold on Russell being BPA over Okafor/Towns but I see where you're coming from. You had better have some sort of under the table deal (but no Joe Smith paper trail) with Love/LMA. I like a Russell/Love/Cousins core in theory. That's a lot of young talent, enough to sell high on Clarkson but yea Sacto would have to see a lot in Randle to justify the deal. With the 10M gap in salary, you'd have to include Young to afford Love, which is a possible deal breaker when the Kings compare other deals. I think I'd take the end result, but don't have enough faith in Love signing to pull the trigger and losing Okafor is rough. | I would absolutely do it Even if we are unable to sign Love or Aldridge we could still sign a second tier free agent power forward like Milsap? We could draft another power forward with the #27 pick in insurance, somebody like Rakeem Christmas, who's shot blocking prowess would complement Cousins well btw. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:21 am Post subject: |
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1since71 wrote: | better would be #2 pick,Randle and J.Hill for D.Cousins and the #7 pick.Now you can sign Love,pick a 3 with the 7th pick. |
So Sac would trade for Hill and pay him $9 mil when they can just wait until after July 1 and sign him as a FA for half of that? Sac isn't interested in trading Cousins. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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1since71 Star Player
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | 1since71 wrote: | better would be #2 pick,Randle and J.Hill for D.Cousins and the #7 pick.Now you can sign Love,pick a 3 with the 7th pick. |
So Sac would trade for Hill and pay him $9 mil when they can just wait until after July 1 and sign him as a FA for half of that? Sac isn't interested in trading Cousins. |
Hill is there for salary and nothing else.I didnt know you were privy to what the Kings front office is thinking but thanks for letting us know. |
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Trade Randle, Clarkson for Cousins? |
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srekal2 wrote: | Seeing the nature of bigs frequently flopping, along with the potential of Love coming home to the Lakers, would Sacramento take Randle and our two late first rounders for Cousins, or maybe Clarkson with Randle. We can then draft Russell who might be the BPA, and pick up Durant when Kobe retires. |
Cousins is locked up for three more years so the Kings don't have to be in any hurry to move him. I suspect they'd want more than Randle and Clarkon, because I doubt they value the untested Randle as much as Lakers fans do.
I think the starting point for getting Cousins would be the #2 pick. |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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1since71 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | 1since71 wrote: | better would be #2 pick,Randle and J.Hill for D.Cousins and the #7 pick.Now you can sign Love,pick a 3 with the 7th pick. |
So Sac would trade for Hill and pay him $9 mil when they can just wait until after July 1 and sign him as a FA for half of that? Sac isn't interested in trading Cousins. |
Hill is there for salary and nothing else.I didnt know you were privy to what the Kings front office is thinking but thanks for letting us know. |
For Salary and nothing else?
How much salary did the Lakers send to Houston in the Lin trade last Summer? |
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USCandLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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krisobe Star Player
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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Clarkson
Kobe
Winslow/Hezonja
Love
Cousins
If only Winslow dropped to #7, I would do this in a heartbeat.
Clarkson
Kobe
Winslow
Love
Cousins
50 win team if healthy. Winslow would be a defensive beast with THIBS. |
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dothedambthang Sixth Man
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Kings would never trade away a proven guy for a semi-proven youngblood like Clarkson and a completely unproven and untested Randle
Not even the Kings would do that |
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Wino Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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dothedambthang wrote: | Kings would never trade away a proven guy for a semi-proven youngblood like Clarkson and a completely unproven and untested Randle
Not even the Kings would do that |
Not only is it a risky move for them, but then it totally negates our potential for drafting Okafor or Towns. _________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain |
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USCandLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Wino wrote: | dothedambthang wrote: | Kings would never trade away a proven guy for a semi-proven youngblood like Clarkson and a completely unproven and untested Randle
Not even the Kings would do that |
Not only is it a risky move for them, but then it totally negates our potential for drafting Okafor or Towns. |
I thought Towns could play PF. _________________ A banana is killed every time a terrible thread or post is made. Save the bananas. Stop creating terrible posts! |
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Wino Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think Towns will be a better center than a pf, but of course he will have the ability to roam and take his opposition out of their comfort zones. _________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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1since71 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | 1since71 wrote: | better would be #2 pick,Randle and J.Hill for D.Cousins and the #7 pick.Now you can sign Love,pick a 3 with the 7th pick. |
So Sac would trade for Hill and pay him $9 mil when they can just wait until after July 1 and sign him as a FA for half of that? Sac isn't interested in trading Cousins. |
Hill is there for salary and nothing else.I didnt know you were privy to what the Kings front office is thinking but thanks for letting us know. |
You won't have enough cap-space left to sign Love if you pick up Cousins. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Cousins is the Queens one lone super star, no way they trade him for a couple of scrubs and a cow-bell...! _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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KobeDunk Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:52 am Post subject: |
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no, you keep your pick and you keep Randle... You pair Randle up with Okafor or Towns and y ou have the best front court in the NBA in a few years. This is like trading Kobe for Jason Kidd in 2000 |
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KobeDunk Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:53 am Post subject: |
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unleasHell wrote: | Cousins is the Queens one lone super star, no way they trade him for a couple of scrubs and a cow-bell...! |
we throw this word super star around too losely.... is he really a SUPER STAR? |
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 1:39 am Post subject: |
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1since71 wrote: | better would be #2 pick,Randle and J.Hill for D.Cousins and the #7 pick.Now you can sign Love,pick a 3 with the 7th pick. |
We would never hear the end of the "Mitch doesn't value our draft picks" complaints. And those complaints would be very accurate if that deal was made. |
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M2K Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Randle & Clarkson for Cousins...
C - Cousins
PF - Love
SF - Butler/Carroll
SG - Kobe
PG - Russell
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C - Okafor
PF - Randle
SF - Butler/Carroll
SG - Kobe
PG - Clarkson
The second scenario actually leaves the Lakers with even more money to spend in additional Free Agent signings.
So... I would not trade Randle & Clarkson for Okafor. _________________ A three headed monster... Jeannie, Pelinka, and Ham... another terrible season. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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1since71 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | 1since71 wrote: | better would be #2 pick,Randle and J.Hill for D.Cousins and the #7 pick.Now you can sign Love,pick a 3 with the 7th pick. |
So Sac would trade for Hill and pay him $9 mil when they can just wait until after July 1 and sign him as a FA for half of that? Sac isn't interested in trading Cousins. |
Hill is there for salary and nothing else.I didnt know you were privy to what the Kings front office is thinking but thanks for letting us know. |
I can read, simple as that. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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