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Sting
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 Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:48 pm Post subject: Ideal Laker offseason |
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This is how I hope the Laker off season pans out.
Draft:
# 2 Jahlil Okafor C
lakers trade 27 and 34 to 20
#20 Justin Anderson SF
lakers buy a pick from Philly and future pick for 35
#35 Danilo Fuzaro PG Brazil
assuming Lakers have 22m in cap space
Lakers opt out of Jordan Hill deal
Laker sign Ed Davis new deal 2y @ 12m- Davis is solid big in his prime can play 4 or 5 and can rebound and d up with the best of them....
Lakers sign Kris Middleton ton 3y 35 m contract
Aaron Brooks signs for exception
Lakers in 2015
C- Okafor, Davis, Sacre
PF-Randle, Black, Kelly
SF-Middleton, Anderson
SG- Kobe, Young, Brown
PG- Clarkson, Brooks, Fuzaro
thoughts guys? |
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gng930
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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You'd need to offer more to pry Middleton from the Bucks (if even possible) and Davis is not my first choice for a veteran center but I would consider a Middleton/Davis/Brooks/Anderson off-season a rousing success.
Although at #20 and #35 I'd choose RHJ and De Paula...but that's just nitpicking.  |
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Towns or Okafor
RHJ
Star Wars
Sign Dragic.
Towns or Okafor
Randle
Bryant/RHJ
Clarkson
Dragic
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Bard207
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| Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Ideal Laker offseason |
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| Sting wrote: | This is how I hope the Laker off season pans out.
Draft:
# 2 Jahlil Okafor C
lakers trade 27 and 34 to 20
#20 Justin Anderson SF
lakers buy a pick from Philly and future pick for 35
#35 Danilo Fuzaro PG Brazil
assuming Lakers have 22m in cap space
Lakers opt out of Jordan Hill deal
Laker sign Ed Davis new deal 2y @ 12m- Davis is solid big in his prime can play 4 or 5 and can rebound and d up with the best of them....
Lakers sign Kris Middleton ton 3y 35 m contract
Aaron Brooks signs for exception
Lakers in 2015
C- Okafor, Davis, Sacre
PF-Randle, Black, Kelly
SF-Middleton, Anderson
SG- Kobe, Young, Brown
PG- Clarkson, Brooks, Fuzaro
thoughts guys? |
I think that you are quite optimistic expecting #27 + #34 = #20
Getting to #23 or #24 is probably a more reasonable expectation for #27 + #34.
What is the future pick that will be sent to Philly for #35?
They only have one First Round pick and #35 is their best Second Round pick. |
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fansincemagic
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| Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | Towns or Okafor
RHJ
Star Wars
Sign Dragic.
Towns or Okafor
Randle
Bryant/RHJ
Clarkson
Dragic |
This is the scenario I was floating on the FA thread (Dragic, C ( a t ) #2 and RHJ) and you'd still have enough left in theory to sign Ed Davis and then use the cap ex (I chose Wes, but any solid backup 3 or 1 will do). Lucas is interesting, do they stash him for a year?
As for the OP, I really like Anderson and would trade up to land him, anyone mocking him at 27 is way to wishful. He'd be an ideal defensive 3 but RHJ would be a good grab too. The Bucks could match that, but the depth and versatility at the 2/3 position of that depth chart looks GREAT. Davis as a rim protector and Brooks as a quick outside shooter help cap off a solid offseason. I'm holding out for a big FA, but those peices would help take pressure off of the two bigs. |
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unleasHell
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I think the Lakers should go REAL hard after Aldridge & Love, selling them on the getting Durant after Kobe retires, so heading into the 2016 - 2017 season retooled and ready for a finals run:
C = Okafor
PF = Aldridge OR Love
SF= Durant
SG = ?
PG = Clarkson
I would not keep Lin, but would try and keep Davis,
If Aldrige and Love are off the boards, Dragic will be fine and bump Clarkson to SG
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M2K
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Ideal Laker offseason |
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| Bard207 wrote: | | Sting wrote: | This is how I hope the Laker off season pans out.
Draft:
# 2 Jahlil Okafor C
lakers trade 27 and 34 to 20
#20 Justin Anderson SF
lakers buy a pick from Philly and future pick for 35
#35 Danilo Fuzaro PG Brazil
assuming Lakers have 22m in cap space
Lakers opt out of Jordan Hill deal
Laker sign Ed Davis new deal 2y @ 12m- Davis is solid big in his prime can play 4 or 5 and can rebound and d up with the best of them....
Lakers sign Kris Middleton ton 3y 35 m contract
Aaron Brooks signs for exception
Lakers in 2015
C- Okafor, Davis, Sacre
PF-Randle, Black, Kelly
SF-Middleton, Anderson
SG- Kobe, Young, Brown
PG- Clarkson, Brooks, Fuzaro
thoughts guys? |
I think that you are quite optimistic expecting #27 + #34 = #20
Getting to #23 or #24 is probably a more reasonable expectation for #27 + #34.
What is the future pick that will be sent to Philly for #35?
They only have one First Round pick and #35 is their best Second Round pick. |
Actually, there is a point chart for NBA trades just like in the NFL. According to the chart, trading the 27th & 34th pick should net the Lakers the 16th pick or lower.
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Bard207
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Ideal Laker offseason |
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| M2K wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | | Sting wrote: | This is how I hope the Laker off season pans out.
Draft:
# 2 Jahlil Okafor C
lakers trade 27 and 34 to 20
#20 Justin Anderson SF
lakers buy a pick from Philly and future pick for 35
#35 Danilo Fuzaro PG Brazil
assuming Lakers have 22m in cap space
Lakers opt out of Jordan Hill deal
Laker sign Ed Davis new deal 2y @ 12m- Davis is solid big in his prime can play 4 or 5 and can rebound and d up with the best of them....
Lakers sign Kris Middleton ton 3y 35 m contract
Aaron Brooks signs for exception
Lakers in 2015
C- Okafor, Davis, Sacre
PF-Randle, Black, Kelly
SF-Middleton, Anderson
SG- Kobe, Young, Brown
PG- Clarkson, Brooks, Fuzaro
thoughts guys? |
I think that you are quite optimistic expecting #27 + #34 = #20
Getting to #23 or #24 is probably a more reasonable expectation for #27 + #34.
What is the future pick that will be sent to Philly for #35?
They only have one First Round pick and #35 is their best Second Round pick. |
Actually, there is a point chart for NBA trades just like in the NFL. According to the chart, trading the 27th & 34th pick should net the Lakers the 16th pick or lower. |
My POV is based on recent draft day trades.
Orlando Draft Overview
| Quote: | | TRADE 1: Orlando Magic acquire No. 10 pick Elfrid Payton from Philadelphia in exchange for No. 12 pick Dario Saric, a 2015 second-round pick and a 2017 first-round pick. |
McDermott (#11) for Nujrkic (#16) + Harris (#19) along with the Bulls taking Randolph for a late Second Round pick.
BULLS ACQUIRE MCDERMOTT VIA DRAFT NIGHT TRADE
| Quote: | | Chicago receives McDermott, along with Anthony Randolph, a 6-11, 225-pound forward with six years of NBA experience, in exchange for its two first round selections—Jusuf Nurkic and Gary Harris, taken 16th and 19th, respectively—and the lesser of the Bulls’ two 2015 second round picks (Chicago’s and Portland’s). |
Heat trade up for Shabazz Napier
| Quote: | The Heat traded their first-round pick, No. 26 overall, and two second-round picks to the Charlotte Hornets to move up two spots to grab Napier with the 24th selection...
...The Heat drafted guard P.J. Hairston for Charlotte to complete the swap. Miami also gave the Hornets the No. 55 overall pick (Semaj Christon) in the second round Thursday, a 2019 second-round pick and cash considerations.
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What value chart - formula did you use to arrive at #27 + #34 = #16?
Since Boston has #16 and #33, then they should be able to package that for #10 or better? |
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a2j1m
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Draft Karl Towns, Rakeem Christmas, and Terran Petteway
Sign Kevin Love and Cory Joesph
Trade Tarik Black and Ryan Kelly for Al Fariq Aminu
Jordan Clarkson / Cory Joesph
Kobe Bryant / Nick Young / Jabari Brown
Al Aminu / Terran Petteway
Kevin Love / Julius Randle / RakeemChristmas
Karl Towns / Ed Davis / Robert Sacre
Or what I think will be our team next season
Rajon Rondo / Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant / Jabari Brwn
Tobias Harris / Nick Young
Ed Davis / Julius Randle
Jahlil Oakfor / Tarik Black |
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LakerChampionTradition
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Lakers need to offer Leonard MAX, worst case scenario, Spurs match and their cheap asses bite the cap bullet.
If Lakers get him...
Okafor or Towns
Randle
Leonard
Kobe
Clarkson
Summer 2016, Kobe's 25 million off the books to build on a nucleus of Okafor, Randle, Leonard and Clarkson in free agency. |
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lakurluv
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Sometimes I want to try to be as realistic as possible so here's my thoughts: I think that Okafor or Towns will be suitable for this team, either way you slice it, hands down. Now we have to fill other voids of importance on this team and those needs are simple enough to see.
SF, PG are the other obvious spots of importance.
So I think we should somehow give up #27 & #34 to get a solid young player in a trade or look to move up for one of those positions. Our only leverage on our team are:
Hill/Lin/Sacre/Young (which is not a lot but could mean something to a playoff team)
The Raptors are in serious need of back court depth, could we package the two picks for their #20 and get a better player not as low in the draft? It all remains to be seen...
I will say this, I believe that Indiana is going to surprise some people with their pick at #11. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Wisconsin Kids end up going higher than expected here, either Decker or Kamensky. If so look for Johnson to continue to drop further down, due to team needs. With George's injury last season there's a chance they will look to put the ball in someone else's hands and I doubt Johnson will be the one, but you never know...
I truly think we should focus on the PG and SF spots from a (Youthful) free agency point of view and trade the picks for whatever we can get unless we get extremely lucky at # 27.
So my team would look something like this:
Brandon Knight/Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant/Ellington
Tobias Harris/Young
Julius Randle/Boozer
Okafor/Towns (Toss-Up)/Davis
That's about as realistic as I can be without just giving us every good available free agent out there...LOl |
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unleasHell
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| Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| LakerChampionTradition wrote: | Lakers need to offer Leonard MAX, worst case scenario, Spurs match and their cheap asses bite the cap bullet.
If Lakers get him...
Okafor or Towns
Randle
Leonard
Kobe
Clarkson
Summer 2016, Kobe's 25 million off the books to build on a nucleus of Okafor, Randle, Leonard and Clarkson in free agency. |
I like your idea, but only after Aldridge and Love turn down a Lakers Max. offer.
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| LakerChampionTradition wrote: | | Lakers need to offer Leonard MAX, worst case scenario, Spurs match and their cheap asses bite the cap bullet. . |
I'd be shocked if the Spurs didn't offer him a full max on the first day they can. Everyone knows there is a long list of teams that would be more than happy to pay him the max, so there isn't any negotiating room on price. |
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a2j1m
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| unleasHell wrote: | | LakerChampionTradition wrote: | Lakers need to offer Leonard MAX, worst case scenario, Spurs match and their cheap asses bite the cap bullet.
If Lakers get him...
Okafor or Towns
Randle
Leonard
Kobe
Clarkson
Summer 2016, Kobe's 25 million off the books to build on a nucleus of Okafor, Randle, Leonard and Clarkson in free agency. |
I like your idea, but only after Aldridge and Love turn down a Lakers Max. offer. |
No way... I'm taking Leinard over both of them... Building around Oakfor, Randle, and Leonard...
Won't happen tho lol |
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| Kobe play up to 40 years. It will be our Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. |
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