I don't get the comparisons to Curry, Nash or CP3.
We don't have any player as skilled as those guys, with the same passing ability, shooting ability or ball handling skills.
They show us if you are an all time great doing something you don't need to be the most athletic guy out there.
Those guys despite not blow passing for everyone are often going to the hoop sometimes finishing, usually creating for others. By the way those guys are reasonably quick.
Can someone bring Curry and Nash TS%? That may be insane compared to our guys.
The point for me is not that we don't have a player with Westbrook athleticism, but our players still have to show they have any elite skills.
They are young, they can improve, but there is no point talking about how the lack of elite athleticism didn't stop players like Curry and Nash to become all time greats (not on defense most would agree)
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:18 pm Post subject:
nash wrote:
I don't get the comparisons to Curry, Nash or CP3.
We don't have any player as skilled as those guys, with the same passing ability, shooting ability or ball handling skills.
They show us if you are an all time great doing something you don't need to be the most athletic guy out there.
Those guys despite not blow passing for everyone are often going to the hoop sometimes finishing, usually creating for others. By the way those guys are reasonably quick.
Can someone bring Curry and Nash TS%? That may be insane compared to our guys.
The point for me is not that we don't have a player with Westbrook athleticism, but our players still have to show they have any elite skills.
They are young, they can improve, but there is no point talking about how the lack of elite athleticism didn't stop players like Curry and Nash to become all time greats (not on defense most would agree)
I am guessing you didn't watch Curry and Nash in their 2nd NBA season. They weren't doing the things DLO was. CP3 is different, he was doing those things. And of course all were older at that time with more basketball experience. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
That is legit quickness though, in a way - it's not burst but it's consistent churning of the feet, quick feet.
Similar with Curry - he's consistently playing with pace/ feet churning. You can call it "guard motor", Steph's half-court pace, dude is active.
DLo probably does need to get more athletic. Zach Lowe even said it, I agree.
But if he does, then he's an allstar. It's not like he needs more athleticism to just be a good player
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:15 pm Post subject:
The Grind wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
That takes deft body control and insane smarts, and like you said footwork and technique. Sure, Dlo can do that in a few years, but it's going to take alot of work.
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
That takes deft body control and insane smarts, and like you said footwork and technique. Sure, Dlo can do that in a few years, but it's going to take alot of work.
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
That takes deft body control and insane smarts, and like you said footwork and technique. Sure, Dlo can do that in a few years, but it's going to take alot of work.
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
That takes deft body control and insane smarts, and like you said footwork and technique. Sure, Dlo can do that in a few years, but it's going to take alot of work.
John Wall wishes that were the case
It probably wouldn't matter if I pointed out that Russell wasn't the one assigned to Wall for most of that game, would it.
Anyways, MJST's point was about dlo developing that body control, not so much the head to head match up. _________________ LeBron, AD, & _________. Stay tuned.
"...there was a time when the Israelites were wandering in the desert and all of a sudden, bread came down from heaven,” Pelinka said. “That’s kind of what today feels like for us to have KCP join.”
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad.
Had the current FO been intact and Luke was the coach, there would've been a 0% chance they would've just let Nash walk the way the old regime did. It still boggles my mind that even after he worked privately with Clarkson, and Clarkson improved so much that he went from riding the bench all season to actually making the All-Rookie first team, it took his acceptance of the GS gig for the old regime to even make an attempt of keeping him around in an official capacity. You'd think that move would've been a swift, no-brainer once they drafted DLO. But they showed up late to the party and whiffed as a result, just like they did in free agency. _________________ “Christ did not die to forgive sinners who go on treasuring anything above seeing and savoring God. And people who would be happy in heaven if Christ were not there, will not be there."
- John Piper
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:39 pm Post subject:
Judah wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad.
Had the current FO been intact and Luke was the coach, there would've been a 0% chance they would've just let Nash walk the way the old regime did. It still boggles my mind that even after he worked privately with Clarkson, and Clarkson improved so much that he went from riding the bench all season to actually making the All-Rookie first team, it took his acceptance of the GS gig for the old regime to even make an attempt of keeping him around in an official capacity. You'd think that move would've been a swift, no-brainer once they drafted DLO. But they showed up late to the party and whiffed as a result, just like they did in free agency.
Yeah, would have been nice to have Nash around to coach DLo and JC. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:07 pm Post subject:
Judah wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad.
Had the current FO been intact and Luke was the coach, there would've been a 0% chance they would've just let Nash walk the way the old regime did. It still boggles my mind that even after he worked privately with Clarkson, and Clarkson improved so much that he went from riding the bench all season to actually making the All-Rookie first team, it took his acceptance of the GS gig for the old regime to even make an attempt of keeping him around in an official capacity. You'd think that move would've been a swift, no-brainer once they drafted DLO. But they showed up late to the party and whiffed as a result, just like they did in free agency.
Nah, the real story isn't anything like that. It was all Nash. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad.
Had the current FO been intact and Luke was the coach, there would've been a 0% chance they would've just let Nash walk the way the old regime did. It still boggles my mind that even after he worked privately with Clarkson, and Clarkson improved so much that he went from riding the bench all season to actually making the All-Rookie first team, it took his acceptance of the GS gig for the old regime to even make an attempt of keeping him around in an official capacity. You'd think that move would've been a swift, no-brainer once they drafted DLO. But they showed up late to the party and whiffed as a result, just like they did in free agency.
Nah, the real story isn't anything like that. It was all Nash.
Could you elaborate?
Clarkson was picking up so many little things from him in that short time.
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Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:11 pm Post subject:
akk7 wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Judah wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad.
Had the current FO been intact and Luke was the coach, there would've been a 0% chance they would've just let Nash walk the way the old regime did. It still boggles my mind that even after he worked privately with Clarkson, and Clarkson improved so much that he went from riding the bench all season to actually making the All-Rookie first team, it took his acceptance of the GS gig for the old regime to even make an attempt of keeping him around in an official capacity. You'd think that move would've been a swift, no-brainer once they drafted DLO. But they showed up late to the party and whiffed as a result, just like they did in free agency.
Nah, the real story isn't anything like that. It was all Nash.
Could you elaborate?
Clarkson was picking up so many little things from him in that short time.
Let's just say the Lakers went above and beyond for Nash, and when it came down to it, he didn't reciprocate. They wanted him to stay and work with their guys the whole time. He did very little of what he indicated he would do, with players and with other appearances, and then bailed. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad.
Had the current FO been intact and Luke was the coach, there would've been a 0% chance they would've just let Nash walk the way the old regime did. It still boggles my mind that even after he worked privately with Clarkson, and Clarkson improved so much that he went from riding the bench all season to actually making the All-Rookie first team, it took his acceptance of the GS gig for the old regime to even make an attempt of keeping him around in an official capacity. You'd think that move would've been a swift, no-brainer once they drafted DLO. But they showed up late to the party and whiffed as a result, just like they did in free agency.
Nah, the real story isn't anything like that. It was all Nash.
Could you elaborate?
Clarkson was picking up so many little things from him in that short time.
Let's just say the Lakers went above and beyond for Nash, and when it came down to it, he didn't reciprocate. They wanted him to stay and work with their guys the whole time. He did very little of what he indicated he would do, with players and with other appearances, and then bailed.
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad.
Had the current FO been intact and Luke was the coach, there would've been a 0% chance they would've just let Nash walk the way the old regime did. It still boggles my mind that even after he worked privately with Clarkson, and Clarkson improved so much that he went from riding the bench all season to actually making the All-Rookie first team, it took his acceptance of the GS gig for the old regime to even make an attempt of keeping him around in an official capacity. You'd think that move would've been a swift, no-brainer once they drafted DLO. But they showed up late to the party and whiffed as a result, just like they did in free agency.
Nah, the real story isn't anything like that. It was all Nash.
Could you elaborate?
Clarkson was picking up so many little things from him in that short time.
Let's just say the Lakers went above and beyond for Nash, and when it came down to it, he didn't reciprocate. They wanted him to stay and work with their guys the whole time. He did very little of what he indicated he would do, with players and with other appearances, and then bailed.
I didn't know THAT!
After disaster of how that trade went down, that's a major slap in the face.
I just lost any and all respect from him as a laker fan.
The "quick-footed" Nash breaking down Varajao on the dribble. This is all footwork and dribbling with little quickness.
It's easy to see Russell doing this in a few years.
I want Russell to work with Nash so bad.
Had the current FO been intact and Luke was the coach, there would've been a 0% chance they would've just let Nash walk the way the old regime did. It still boggles my mind that even after he worked privately with Clarkson, and Clarkson improved so much that he went from riding the bench all season to actually making the All-Rookie first team, it took his acceptance of the GS gig for the old regime to even make an attempt of keeping him around in an official capacity. You'd think that move would've been a swift, no-brainer once they drafted DLO. But they showed up late to the party and whiffed as a result, just like they did in free agency.
Nah, the real story isn't anything like that. It was all Nash.
Could you elaborate?
Clarkson was picking up so many little things from him in that short time.
Let's just say the Lakers went above and beyond for Nash, and when it came down to it, he didn't reciprocate. They wanted him to stay and work with their guys the whole time. He did very little of what he indicated he would do, with players and with other appearances, and then bailed.
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I didn't know THAT!
