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crucifixion
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | | crucifixion wrote: | | Man if Dlo could be half as good as Norman Powell, I'd be ecstatic |
this post took five years off my life |
Have you seen him play this series? I don't know if I ever saw Dlo take over a game like Powell did. But to be fair Powell has only done this now. Otherwise he's just been OK.
But anyways we don't have a chance at getting him. They would reject a Dlo for Powell deal. But maybe Dlo can grow into that kind of player. |
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| crucifixion wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | crucifixion wrote: | | Man if Dlo could be half as good as Norman Powell, I'd be ecstatic |
this post took five years off my life |
Have you seen him play this series? I don't know if I ever saw Dlo take over a game like Powell did. But to be fair Powell has only done this now. Otherwise he's just been OK.
But anyways we don't have a chance at getting him. They would reject a Dlo for Powell deal. But maybe Dlo can grow into that kind of player. |
Jesus, he had one good game dude.... He averages 8/2/1 and plays 18 minutes per game. Trolling. Again. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| crucifixion wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | crucifixion wrote: | | Man if Dlo could be half as good as Norman Powell, I'd be ecstatic |
this post took five years off my life |
Have you seen him play this series? I don't know if I ever saw Dlo take over a game like Powell did. But to be fair Powell has only done this now. Otherwise he's just been OK.
But anyways we don't have a chance at getting him. They would reject a Dlo for Powell deal. But maybe Dlo can grow into that kind of player. |
Eye test? Hot take? I thought you were joking with the original post, but you doubled down.    |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| AY2043 wrote: | | crucifixion wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | crucifixion wrote: | | Man if Dlo could be half as good as Norman Powell, I'd be ecstatic |
this post took five years off my life |
Have you seen him play this series? I don't know if I ever saw Dlo take over a game like Powell did. But to be fair Powell has only done this now. Otherwise he's just been OK.
But anyways we don't have a chance at getting him. They would reject a Dlo for Powell deal. But maybe Dlo can grow into that kind of player. |
Jesus, he had one good game dude.... He averages 8/2/1 and plays 18 minutes per game. Trolling. Again. |
But if you double the minutes he's getting, he produces 16/4/2! |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| crucifixion wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | crucifixion wrote: | | Man if Dlo could be half as good as Norman Powell, I'd be ecstatic |
this post took five years off my life |
Have you seen him play this series? I don't know if I ever saw Dlo take over a game like Powell did. But to be fair Powell has only done this now. Otherwise he's just been OK.
But anyways we don't have a chance at getting him. They would reject a Dlo for Powell deal. But maybe Dlo can grow into that kind of player. |
If you think Powell has more trade value then Dlo then... yikes
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Yes, I just wish he could gallantly lead his team to the playoffs just like Norman Powell has, and then put up an AMAZING 13/2/2 once he gets there!
A man can dream right?!?!?! 
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https://i.imgflip.com/1nw6fe.jpg
I get it though, here's hoping DLO has a chance to shine in the playoffs for LAL soon
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | https://i.imgflip.com/1nw6fe.jpg
I get it though, here's hoping DLO has a chance to shine in the playoffs for LAL soon |
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it's gonna be A LOOOONG SUMMER FOLKS
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Hey guys, in fairness Norm is shooting 89% from 3 this post-season
Now if only that scrub DLO could do that over the course of a season |
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| crucifixion wrote: | | justsomelakerfan wrote: | | crucifixion wrote: | | Man if Dlo could be half as good as Norman Powell, I'd be ecstatic |
this post took five years off my life |
Have you seen him play this series? I don't know if I ever saw Dlo take over a game like Powell did. But to be fair Powell has only done this now. Otherwise he's just been OK.
But anyways we don't have a chance at getting him. They would reject a Dlo for Powell deal. But maybe Dlo can grow into that kind of player. |
Well. When you troll at least it's transparent.
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| AY2043 wrote: | Hey guys, in fairness Norm is shooting 89% from 3 this post-season
Now if only that scrub DLO could do that over the course of a season |
If you double that norm is shooting 168% from 3. Take that.
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| dao wrote: | | tox wrote: | | dao wrote: | | tox wrote: | 2017 and people are still using FG%
kill me |
it's still okay for centers that don't shoot threes. And in certain arguments where using TS% rather than fg% would weaken your arguments on message boards. |
The only time* FG% is remotely valuable is when we're talking about end-of-game scenario where the expected value of 3 pointers is somewhat offset by the higher variance.. This is obviously particularly true when you're down 1 and looking to win the game, but even down 1 with 20 seconds left, there's an argument that a 45% chance at making a 2 is better than a 32% chance of making a 3, despite what TS% has to say about it.
edit(*): The only time that I can think of. I'm actually curious if there's any other edge case where FG% > TS% |
yeah in terms of judging the scoring efficiency of a player, fg% is never better than TS%. I'm just saying fg% is usually pretty accurate in assessing the efficiency of Centers that don't shoot threes, since their TS% and fg% are usually pretty close. But I agree that TS% is the gold standard in all cases.
One potential caveat is in young players, though. Zubac for example. We can expect his FT% to rise a good bit in time, so it might be useful to look at his 2pt%/fg% to judge his scoring skill and make future projections. His fg% of 53% looks better than his TS% of 54.7. His 62% free throw shooting drags down the efficiency, but I think it's fair to expect him to become a much better free throw shooter. Then again, you good look at it as "okay, he's 54.7 TS% now, we can expect that to go up."
Pretty much, I imagine there are some instances where it's good to break up the different scoring efficiencies and look at them separately. The end-game example you listed above is a good example. But I agree that when using one stat to judge scoring efficiency, the gold standard is always TS%. |
Yeah, this is pretty fair. TS% is, like you said, the golden standard for jduging efficiency (again, except for end-of-game situations when you might want lower variance shots). But in the case of your Zubac example, I agree it might be better to use FG% than TS% if you're convinced his FT% will rise. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Hey guys, in fairness Norm is shooting 89% from 3 this post-season
Now if only that scrub DLO could do that over the course of a season |
If you double that norm is shooting 168% from 3. Take that. |
178% smh |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | https://i.imgflip.com/1nw6fe.jpg
I get it though, here's hoping DLO has a chance to shine in the playoffs for LAL soon |
I honestly don't get this meme at all |
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| tox wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Hey guys, in fairness Norm is shooting 89% from 3 this post-season
Now if only that scrub DLO could do that over the course of a season |
If you double that norm is shooting 168% from 3. Take that. |
178% smh |
unfunny and bad at math
pour one out for yinomes cuz he skrugglin out here
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| tox wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Hey guys, in fairness Norm is shooting 89% from 3 this post-season
Now if only that scrub DLO could do that over the course of a season |
If you double that norm is shooting 168% from 3. Take that. |
178% smh |
Oh you and numbers and facts and stuff. Go back to reading your calculator.
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I casually read these threads but took a total double taker here. Are we taking about UCLAs own Norman Powell? 4 year senior? Played with Korey Alford and the Wear brothers? He's better than DLo now? Man I really need to move back to the states I'm missing everything!
Is Kyle Anderson playing like Magic Johnson? Just checking I am out of touch!! |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | tox wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Hey guys, in fairness Norm is shooting 89% from 3 this post-season
Now if only that scrub DLO could do that over the course of a season |
If you double that norm is shooting 168% from 3. Take that. |
178% smh |
Oh you and numbers and facts and stuff. Go back to reading your calculator. |
Only numbers that matter are wins and losses |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | https://i.imgflip.com/1nw6fe.jpg
I get it though, here's hoping DLO has a chance to shine in the playoffs for LAL soon |
HOLY (bleep), |
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| The Logo wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | tox wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Hey guys, in fairness Norm is shooting 89% from 3 this post-season
Now if only that scrub DLO could do that over the course of a season |
If you double that norm is shooting 168% from 3. Take that. |
178% smh |
Oh you and numbers and facts and stuff. Go back to reading your calculator. |
Only numbers that matter are wins and losses |
This. 178% more wins and maybe DLO will be better than Ennis |
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| tox wrote: | | The Logo wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | tox wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | AY2043 wrote: | Hey guys, in fairness Norm is shooting 89% from 3 this post-season
Now if only that scrub DLO could do that over the course of a season |
If you double that norm is shooting 168% from 3. Take that. |
178% smh |
Oh you and numbers and facts and stuff. Go back to reading your calculator. |
Only numbers that matter are wins and losses |
This. 178% more wins and maybe DLO will be better than Ennis |
edit i suck at math
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| justsomelakerfan wrote: | https://i.imgflip.com/1nw6fe.jpg
I get it though, here's hoping DLO has a chance to shine in the playoffs for LAL soon |
LMAO
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